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Originally posted by KaOtiK1 its cause there commercial and everyone on here thinks there "sell outs" cause of it.. if you notice any dj that starts to make some money everyone starts to hate... first it was oakenfold was a sell out.. then it moved to tiesto.. now armin... i say sasha will be next on the list or PVD....but everyone knows they all have tiesto's and oakenfolds cds they just wont admit! I know i do and i still love em both..

it's not the money that makes us hate them
when DJs get rich & famous, somewhere down the line they get their head stuck up their rectums

then they get lazy and use as little effort as possible when DJing cause "why work harder when the money still keeps coming???"

obviously tiesto is a prime example cause all he does is wave his hands in the air 95% of the time, cause he knows he can get away with it

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Originally posted by Azz3D it's not the money that makes us hate them when DJs get rich & famous, somewhere down the line they get their head stuck up their rectums then they get lazy and use as little effort as possible when DJing cause "why work harder when the money still keeps coming???" obviously tiesto is a prime example cause all he does is wave his hands in the air 95% of the time, cause he knows he can get away with it

Yep, and sadly Armin seems to be headed that way. I mean, he's not even number one and he already has his "in concert" show along with some MC guy that sounds strangely similar to Tiesto's balding fatass that follows around saying he's the best hoping to eventually taste Tiesto's bag.

Weak.

In any case though, Armin > Tiesto.

Ahahahah, I really hate the MC's

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Originally posted by Ek0nomik Don't even worry about it. Listen to what you love. With popularity comes hatred.

I call this the "Britney Spears" defense. Basically, if I insulted Britney Spears, this is exactly what one of her fans would say every time.

I know this doesn't totally answer the poster's original question, however I think this could place a little perspective on the thing. This is, in the end, the internet. If someone blasts and/or flames you on your choice in music just remind yourself (and even them if you want) that you don't really have to care because you don't know them. Once you close the internet window or even go to a different site, that person's opinion doesn't even have to "exist" for intents and purposes.

Who cares what outspoken_and_opinionated_420's view is on Armin or Tiesto? I like Armin. I like Tiesto and I don't care if someone on here thinks I am an idiot n00b because of this.

I think there's definitely truth in what someone said earlier that a bi-product of popularity is hatred. Those who don't like Armin or Tiesto for their music and don't understand why they're so popular develop an intense dislike for them.

There's also trance purists who resent the fact that both of these DJ's have, for the most part,stopped supporting the original form of trance. Whether you call this new stuff still trance or prog doesn't matter, there is no debate that it is different than the original form of trance they played 99, 2000ish.

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Originally posted by zoric Ahahahah, I really hate the MC's

Yeah, and Armin's doesn't sound nearly as legitmate since he can only say things like "the dj who's been voted into the top 5 a few years in a row".

Everyone's response is more along the lines of "Well, no shit."

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Originally posted by Dieselboy_1206 I know this doesn't totally answer the poster's original question, however I think this could place a little perspective on the thing. This is, in the end, the internet. If someone blasts and/or flames you on your choice in music just remind yourself (and even them if you want) that you don't really have to care because you don't know them. Once you close the internet window or even go to a different site, that person's opinion doesn't even have to "exist" for intents and purposes. Who cares what outspoken_and_opinionated_420's view is on Armin or Tiesto? I like Armin. I like Tiesto and I don't care if someone on here thinks I am an idiot n00b because of this.

Basically, in the end you'll like who you like and who was marketed the best. I'll agree that this is, in fact, the internet. It doesn't matter who says what about who. I just hope to god that Armin doesn't bring that fucking MC around with him to every show since I plan on going to another Armin show sometime in the future and I would rather not hear some British man talking through all the track buildups like Tiesto has.

Re: Why is there no love for Armin, and Tiesto??

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Originally posted by limpboy I love trance because of them. why not alot of people on this board like them.

In my opinion if you like them it shouldn't be a problem for you. And you should respect others TA's taste. Personally, I like Tiesto because he has very different style to other DJs. Moreover I bought some clothes with logo of Armin Van Buuren and soon teachers started to ask me : ,,who is the person you have on your T-shirt ? " I told them it was DJ AvB, I liked him and it was a good idea to express your personality or sth like that. Another fact is that I started to listen to trance when PvD's CD ,, Raflections" appeared. Since then I've been TA. But I still search for new sounds so Tiesto, AvB are not the only DJs I like. Nevertheless I agree with you - they are really good !

I like Armin but am not really fond of Tiesto's music, however I do like a couple of his tracks. This is just an opinion though. Everyone likes there own music.

woops that was supposed to be a smiley lol

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Originally posted by Numidia I think there's definitely truth in what someone said earlier that a bi-product of popularity is hatred. Those who don't like Armin or Tiesto for their music and don't understand why they're so popular develop an intense dislike for them.

I'm sorry but most of the people who "hate" on them do understand why they're popular. They did music who pleased the masses, and then jumped on every oportunity to build on the popularity they had gained with their music.

A whole different matter is if what they do is wrong.. but most people seem to agree they don't deserve, at all, the popularity they have currently.

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There's also trance purists who resent the fact that both of these DJ's have, for the most part,stopped supporting the original form of trance. Whether you call this new stuff still trance or prog doesn't matter, there is no debate that it is different than the original form of trance they played 99, 2000ish.

I don't know what group of people you're refering to. But the reason why many "trance purists" bash them is because they never played "real trance".

(and i might just take this oportunity to admit i really jumped deep into this early 90s trance bandwagon.. after all one year and a half ago I liked Armin and the likes. but this shit sounds awesome at times )

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Originally posted by DJ EsseX In my opinion if you like them it shouldn't be a problem for you. And you should respect others TA's taste. Personally, I like Tiesto because he has very different style to other DJs. Moreover I bought some clothes with logo of Armin Van Buuren and soon teachers started to ask me : ,,who is the person you have on your T-shirt ? " I told them it was DJ AvB, I liked him and it was a good idea to express your personality or sth like that. Another fact is that I started to listen to trance when PvD's CD ,, Raflections" appeared. Since then I've been TA. But I still search for new sounds so Tiesto, AvB are not the only DJs I like. Nevertheless I agree with you - they are really good !

I think I'd piss my pants if I saw a guy wearing a t-shirt with a pic of Armin at school

I'm a huge fan of Armin, he's probably my favorite DJ. One of my favorite parts about him is that despite all his success, he still seems pretty grounded. He's not all about himself and still plays to the fans and signs a ton of autographs and such live.

I've seen Tiesto twice and both times I was very disappointed. Didn't really enjoy his sets and he was like a statue behind the decks. I do love a lot of his production though and Parade of the Athletes is one of my favorite sets.

A good way to look at it is just enjoy what music you enjoy and don't get too hung up on the opinions of others.

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Originally posted by Abe I'm a huge fan of Armin, he's probably my favorite DJ. One of my favorite parts about him is that despite all his success, he still seems pretty grounded. He's not all about himself and still plays to the fans and signs a ton of autographs and such live. I've seen Tiesto twice and both times I was very disappointed. Didn't really enjoy his sets and he was like a statue behind the decks. I do love a lot of his production though and Parade of the Athletes is one of my favorite sets. A good way to look at it is just enjoy what music you enjoy and don't get too hung up on the opinions of others.

Armin still does seem rather "grounded", but I have been noticing him slip a little bit as time goes on. However, he still puts out a new radio show every week, with some new tunes in them pretty frequently, so, I guess as long as he does something like that, you can't hate him as much as Tiesto.

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Originally posted by Clovis86 I would say listen to what you love, but variety is the spice of life...dont be afraid to try something new...

Variety is VITAL

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...there is ALOT out there...its endless...

SOOOO true

maybe because trance sucks balls nowadays?

Real trance is better than it's ever been. Download a recent Precision or Manuel Le Saux set and you'll see what I mean. As for that prog most other dj's play, ya it blows ass.

Eh, the whole "x is dead, y is on the rise" argument is lame.

Armin jacks every other DJ's style. That's why I hate him. As for Tijs, that mug pwns.

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