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1. Will Australia be a major playor on a global level and establish itself like Holland did from 2000 onwards?
Um� no. We�re too far removed from Europe where it all started. Europe will remain the major players cos they�ve got the crowds. Plus presently, everything Australia does is a copy (and I could say inferior copy) of what the Europeans are doing� that�s not going to help our cause!

2. Will we have acclaimed producers or Dj's that have the luxury of touring full time?
Um� yes, but only say 1 or 2, who are out-of-this-world talented and bring something quite unique to trance, will do well. Even then they will have to call some place in Europe home or they�ll be swamped by the European DJ�s who are always in the faces of European clubbers. And they�re going to need a farking insane promotions team behind them or it�s irrelevant how good and hard working they are.

3. Will Australia produce an international club brand?
Doubt it. How on earth will they be able to take on Gatecrasher/GK/Slinky?? Any international club brand Australia establishes will most likely be in a genre other than trance which went superclub too early for us to compete.

4. Are we going to see trance return to the status it achieved pre-2000?
Only if productions stop being so formulaic and shite. These days a decent track is sort of �oooh aah, that�s amazing� when pre 2000 is would have just been another track to throw into the archives. I can only think of The Other Side as a track that moved me this year� gorgeous. Oh and look, it was one of the stars of pre 2000 who produced it :|

6. Will it continue to go in the musical direction of prog/tech or will it go back to being more melodic?
More melodic, people miss the true emotion that cemented trance as a powerful genre in the first place. And vocals will come back. Good vocals. They distinguish tracks.

7. Will it become a mainstream genre like house of recent years?
I have absolutely no idea! I don�t even know when house became so massive. Was looking back at the Together flyer the other day, and remembering thinking �who�s this guy Jaques Lu Cont, house?? I think I�ll pass on seeing him�. Would lurve to see him now!!

Or sadly..........

8. Will it all be over?
Nah, it will always keep bubbling along.

very intelligent post there vee

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Originally posted by batemanscott Can i just point out im in no way suggesting trance is dead here or anything like it, just asking do u think it will be dead come 2010. lot of good points raised..

I don't think trance is dead or will die BUT the progressive house/tech scene is growing more and more from strength to strength. A lot of fresh new talent to look out for - each with their own unique style.

We all know the trance scene in Oz will NEVER be able to compare with the scene in Europe - even the house scene for that matter.

Canada/US have the BEST house scene.
Progressive-Deep-Dark-Dirty-Tribal sounds all the way!!

Trance just doesn't do it for me like it once used to.
(Exceptions to AVB & PVD)

very interesting post and good points raised.

i am not sure about 'The Other Side' i was not really impressed with it especially considering alot of the hype surrounding it. oh well i suppose each to their own

sowwi Scotty didnt mean to upset you.
Dont take it to heart...lighten up

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sorry to break it to you MiSSyM but all the chargers are gonna overdose and die, their remains will wash into the drains and no-one will care or think about where they went

ohhhh i CBF Sezzy.


Regarding this topic, some interesting theories...QueenVee

Although it doesnt really concern or have such a great importance to me. So Im not going to sit here & try and think of what the music's gunna be like in 2010. Yes, Im curious, but not that curious.

xoxoxoxox

Hmm... unity perhaps?

Trance has so many sub genres which vehemently hate each other its a bit ironic really. You got the 'ard trance scene, the snooty prog collective, the fulffy uplifting crowd and the doof massive. If everyone stopped being so elitist all the time, trance genres might collaborate and move forward... but shit... wtf am I saying??... thats not going to happen so I guess the crazy frog will just take over and usher in a new era of tyrrany and destruction. HA!!!... the lol is on us...

Right now I feel that trance is at a crossroads. The popularization of dance music experienced from 99-early 2000's is over, and although there is a great deal of recovery for most other forms of dance music, trance, the single genre responsable for the popularization, has struggled to reinvent itself and has become formulaic, as many of you have already said.

Really, there are two directions trance can go, first, it can merge with the current underground forms to reinvent it's own sound, whther it be a furthering of tech-trance, mixing with the electro sounds of house, continuing along a progressive influenced path, or any number of combinations with alternate forms of EDM. Or trance can become what Euro was to 'rave' music of the 90's. Sounding fairly soft by comparision, with easy to digest sounds, and broad appeal, becoming a mainstream club music. The most probably answer is that trance will probably do both, but which side will still be called trance after the dust is settled remains to be seen.

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Originally posted by Teflon_Teapot In my honest opinion I think house is something that is more a flavour of the month thing than something that will stay around and become a stable part of EDM. I see house as more mainstream and lets face it mainstream music changes in the blink of an eye. I could be wrong and have a biast opinion because I am not a fan of house music but that is just the way I see it.

Try to keep in mind that house began in the mid-80's in Chicago, and gave birth to all other forms of Dance Music save maybe Breakbeat [which was a by-product of early hip hop, drum machines and house]....So the origins of trance can be traced fairly easily to acid house origins back in england in the early 90's. So calling house a 'flavour of the month' would not exactly be appropriate. Secondly house is the most diverse form of all the major Dance music styles [on account of it's greater age or greater worldwide popularity I can't say for certain], and while some house has broken into the mainstream, the bulk of the substyles have not, and subsequently for the most part is not subject to the whims of mainstream music and popular music culture.

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Originally posted by AnitA Canada/US have the BEST house scene. Progressive-Deep-Dark-Dirty-Tribal sounds all the way!!

new york house is wikid.

scotty u gotta burn me that new york house cd i heard at yours!

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Originally posted by sezzy new york house is wikid.

YOU like New York House?

You mean Deep, Dirty, Sleazy, Groovy, Funky, Dark, Bangin, 4-on-the-Floor, Techhy, Tribal House music?

No Way!

Chalk one up for the good guys.

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Try to keep in mind that house began in the mid-80's in Chicago, and gave birth to all other forms of Dance Music save maybe Breakbeat [which was a by-product of early hip hop, drum machines and house]....So the origins of trance can be traced fairly easily to acid house origins back in england in the early 90's. So calling house a 'flavour of the month' would not exactly be appropriate. Secondly house is the most diverse form of all the major Dance music styles [on account of it's greater age or greater worldwide popularity I can't say for certain], and while some house has broken into the mainstream, the bulk of the substyles have not, and subsequently for the most part is not subject to the whims of mainstream music and popular music culture.

yeah sorry about that it was probably a pretty silly comment to make in hindsight or i did not phrase it well. it was really referring to the popular dance/house music that is being played at alot of the commercial clubs and bars.

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Originally posted by sezzy new york house is wikid. scotty u gotta burn me that new york house cd i heard at yours!

WOW. Are we agreeing on something here??

I'm impressed.

First time for everything

Sly_Guy - right on the ball once again

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Originally posted by AnitA WOW. Are we agreeing on something here??

no, sezzy is just going through a quater-life crisis, and the first thing to go was her good taste once the crisis is over she'll be right back to normal

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN no, sezzy is just going through a quater-life crisis, and the first thing to go was her good taste once the crisis is over she'll be right back to normal

If she's listening to house...her taste is getting better indeed

Face it pkc.....everyone is PROGressing

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Originally posted by AnitA Face it pkc.....everyone is PROGressing

really?

gee, id better run along so i can be like all the other kids then.

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Originally posted by AnitA Face it pkc.....everyone is PROGressing

Haha, nicely done.

Yeah, who gives a shit what "everyone" does. Like what you like and dont give a shit about what anyone else tells you.

begic on the money, looking the goodz & pumping the hell up!

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Originally posted by DaveBegic Yeah, who gives a shit what "everyone" does. Like what you like and dont give a shit about what anyone else tells you.

ok, maybe not 'everyone' - but the majority yes

pkc, do you want a straw lol

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Originally posted by AnitA pkc, do you want a straw lol

thats ok; i can spit on you just fine without one

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN thats ok; i can spit on you just fine without one

I was thinking more along the lines of you sucking up the s.hit (or whatever else you might find) from your buddy begic's arse, seeing he's your flavour of the moment

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Originally posted by AnitA seeing he's your flavour of the moment

au contraire; theres no 'moment' about it

Of the moment?! Is this true PKC? I thought it would be to the end...

*edit* I knew I could count on you..

Hmmm trance in 2010...

Ok here are my thoughts/rants.

in 2010, we'll be asking the exact same question, and all thinking the same thing, and if it's not us, it'll be someone else, and the trance world will be in basically the same place it is now.

Why? Because of percentage.

There is only a certain % of people that 'GET' trance... this percentage has been tapped into years ago, and now it's rolling along through subsequent generations. More people might be going out listiening to music, but I'm pretty sure the % listening to the various styles coming under the basic umbrella's of house, trance, techno, electro? is the same. Same as rock, disco, etc etc

You cant change the %, (much) it's natures way of keeping the balance, (yeah it sounds like hippie talk, but do you catch my drift?)

No-one in the future will be as famous as the tiesto's and Armins playing trance. You may be popular like O'bir... and may be able to make a living from it if you work really hard AS three things...

3!!?? Yep first two are easy, Dj and producer....the 3rd...unfortunately is as a promoter, and it's not just promoting yourself...

I doubt if anyone will be famous from OZ, but you may be popular like chable etc.. Small popualation=small % compared to rest of worlds' %
The next batch of famous 'dj's' wil be famous for stuff that is totally new that hasn't even be discovered or played yet.

Nuff of rant.. ;-)

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN thats ok; i can spit on you just fine without one

i can imagine you sitting outside a House club with a straw shooting spitballs and ruining peoples pink polo shirts

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