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Posted by josh4 on Nov-16-2005 20:02:

Is there not a sticky for this yet? Yeesh.

Few of us jumped right into this stuff and started listening to Zabiela or G&D right away. Electronic is a very different forumula than anything you'll hear on the radio so it takes getting used to.

They'll probably need to be worked up to the concept of very little lyrics and the lack of a verse-chorus-verse-chorus structure.

Anyway, its just like you'd approach introducing someone to anything new: slowly and in moderation. It won't happen over night and will happen on their time not yours.

You can ask people here for their opinions but really the only one that matters in this situation is your own. Its your friends so you know them best and you're going to be their gateway into the world of electronica so you're their guide.

They want to know why YOU like it so much so guide them through your experience and YOUR preferences. Once they have enough exposure they'll start to develop their own.

And also remember this is a genre thats not for everyone. So even if they express interest, they very well might end up not liking it.


Posted by Ted Promo on Nov-16-2005 20:02:

I thought you were on strike.


Posted by Synthesia on Nov-16-2005 20:13:

Hey Antony,

I'd start with some tracks a la:

Robert Miles - Children
ATB
Tilt - The World Doesn't Know
Tiesto - Adagio For Strings
BT - Mercure and Solace
Sash - Mysterious Times / Ecuador

or even some more recent ones like Interstate - I Found You or Above & Beyond - Air For Life, introduced a girl into it and she really loves these 2 lovey tracks.

Estuera Vs. Re:Locate - Palma Salone is also a track that appeals to many
Nu NRG - Connective

If that doesn't work you can try via the more commercial way if they like stuff from our very own country, like Milk Inc, Sylver, Lasgo...even if they have to listen to that for weeks or months first..

Then afterwards I'd guide them through a lot of those trance tracks even though they may sound monotonous to the listener at first, but thats where the guiding comes in..sounds a bit odd I know..but telling them to listen intensely and not think about anything else, and explain to them how the track is building up and how you are absorbing energy which then leads to a powerful climax in many cases...making them close their eyes when listening to certain tracks may also be a good idea so that they concentrate on the hearing sense more intensely and don't distract themself. I personally also think many people are kinda scared to wanting to listen to trance as a lot of it is quite melancholic and not very cool-sounding as they're used to seeing the cool rnb 'gangsta's on tv shouting about how troubled their youth was. Whereas trance can be very loved-up and very emotional and sentimental.



@Sykonee: *lol* I'm sure many would like it in that case but trance has to be your drug (if you take mdma, that can be the maximiser...but lets not get into that).


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Nov-16-2005 20:40:

If you want someone to listen to music you like, you play them some. If they don't like it, then they don't like it. If you think there's a possibility that they will like the right stuff, find tracks which suit their tastes as well as yours.

However, nobody on here knows your friends, or you, so you have to use your own fucking INITIATIVE on this.

A billion threads, a billion fools, all wanting complete strangers to do their socialising for them. Welcome to TranceAddict.


Posted by Synthesia on Nov-16-2005 20:49:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
However, nobody on here knows your friends, or you, so you have to use your own fucking INITIATIVE on this.

A billion threads, a billion fools, all wanting complete strangers to do their socialising for them.


Take it easy my friend its not about that, its nice to be United in Trance, specially if you're in a tranzy state of mine with your best friends, its more than just music to many of us I'm sure, and by posting a thread like this there may be some ideas pointed out the thread-poster hadn't thought about yet.


Posted by DasBrotBesser on Nov-16-2005 21:25:

All of my friends know I'm insane when it comes to trance, and that I listen to it all the time, so they don't mind if I play it around them. A few of them asked a while back for some examples to try out, but not all of my friends that enjoy it now asked for examples. Whenever I'm in my car, I always listen to it, and when my friends weren't so into it, I'd turn it down for them out of courtesy, but it'd drive me nuts not to play music while driving, so I always had it so I could at least hear it a bit. It seems like over the course of 3 years or so quite a few of them started to enjoy it to the point where they'd actually tell me to turn it up and they would start to play it on their own time too... so I guess in a way that worked if you want them to start listening to it more: instead of really forcing it down their throat, just play it in that situation and eventually they'll at least get used to it, if not really like it.


Posted by Ishkur on Nov-16-2005 21:42:

quote:
Originally posted by josh4
Few of us jumped right into this stuff and started listening to Zabiela or G&D right away. Electronic is a very different forumula than anything you'll hear on the radio so it takes getting used to.


Okay, you remember that scene in Superman when Miss Tessmacher tells Lex Luther her mother lives in Hackensack, NJ and he just looks at his watch, then at her, and shakes his head solemly?

Now, pretend you are Miss Tessmacher, and I'm Lex, and you just said this to me now. Instead of looking at my watch, I look at Madonna and Crazy Frog and ASOT.

*shakes head*




(holy shit, that was a pretty long reach for a convoluted analogy)


Posted by Aiwendil on Nov-16-2005 21:45:

You had me at Tessmacher.


Posted by Numidia on Nov-16-2005 21:47:

I don't think you can really do much more than just play people some good trance tunes, if their willing to listen, and see if they like it. None of my friends listen to trance and, to be honest, I've never met anyone outside of the internet who likes trance, which sucks because it's basically all i listen to. oh well, The way i see it, it's their loss.


Posted by sw1 on Nov-16-2005 22:20:

One of my former co-workers was in a small rock band. They made a CD, played a few gigs in some clubs, but didn't make it big. One day I was playing a local DJs promo CD at work, and he was instantly hooked.

The strange thing is, a few months later, his drummer also got into trance. He picked up a Dave Seaman CD and got hooked too.

Just put out the bait, and the fish will bite.


Posted by josh4 on Nov-16-2005 22:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Ishkur
Okay, you remember that scene in Superman when Miss Tessmacher tells Lex Luther her mother lives in Hackensack, NJ and he just looks at his watch, then at her, and shakes his head solemly?

Now, pretend you are Miss Tessmacher, and I'm Lex, and you just said this to me now. Instead of looking at my watch, I look at Madonna and Crazy Frog and ASOT.

*shakes head*




(holy shit, that was a pretty long reach for a convoluted analogy)

I'm so tempted to insult you in some way for making me read that.


Posted by Axolotyl on Nov-17-2005 01:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Ishkur
Okay, you remember that scene in Superman when Miss Tessmacher tells Lex Luther her mother lives in Hackensack, NJ and he just looks at his watch, then at her, and shakes his head solemly?

Now, pretend you are Miss Tessmacher, and I'm Lex, and you just said this to me now. Instead of looking at my watch, I look at Madonna and Crazy Frog and ASOT.

*shakes head*




(holy shit, that was a pretty long reach for a convoluted analogy)


So your saying that Crazy Frog is going to nuke G&D and that you are genuinely sad about this? Think carefully, because this would imply that you actually liked them.


Posted by nerdgrl416 on Nov-17-2005 02:08:

Give them Fragma or Lasgo. That get's people into Trance.
I have friends who like trance but won't listen to it because it's not what they hear on the radio. In other words if it aint "IN" then they won't listen to it. I gave up trying to introduce EDM to other people. If they're happy with their top 40 and hip hop so be it.


Posted by Purple on Nov-17-2005 06:51:

quote:
Originally posted by josh4
I'm so tempted to insult you in some way for making me read that.


Your previous Ava was better.


Posted by s3nate on Nov-17-2005 06:53:

Some how I've convinced some of my friends into EDM. We often got rides to the local skatepark (I rollerblade/fruitboot) and I usually would play some breaks & DnB (stuff like Clubbed to Death and Pendulum). They asked what songs those were and it all started from there. Now I got one friend hooked on DnB, another on "As the Rush Comes" & GMS - Juice, another who likes chillout and another on trance... ok mostly Tiesto.
Also when anybody comes to my house they are usually bombarded with some form of EDM. And because of that, my Dad and Brother both like EDM.

Basically if you want to get people into EDM (assuming that these people are hip-hop lovers)

Breaks (Clubbed to death works the best)---> Chillout (Anything by Ooze is good) ---> DnB (PENDULUM!!!) ---> Trance and Goa/Psy (This means Tiesto, GMS, Astral Projection, PVD... you get the point).


Posted by apollo_144 on Nov-17-2005 16:11:

You just don't introduce trance to someone.

introduce him to prog, breaks, and electro.


Posted by Allied Nations on Nov-17-2005 16:18:

drag their asses to parties.

Always works.


Posted by medinaM5 on Nov-17-2005 16:20:

just let them listen to what they want...maybe they enjoy listening to whatever is popular and takin a ride on the bandwagon


Posted by Antony on Nov-17-2005 20:01:

I've learned a lot yet, want to thank you all for your advice and opinions But I never intended to force anyone into Trance, I'll just ask them to listen to some tracks or maybe a liveset. And show them some photo's from crowdy party's I've been. (incl. lasershow) If they don't seem to like it... wouldn't make a problem out of it. Maybe it's just because I want them to know what kind of party's I like...

and thx for backking me up Synthesia


Posted by Synthesia on Nov-17-2005 20:43:

Haha np matey

Oh and btw..thats a very good point you mention..video's...I showed the Sensation White videos, the Megamixes, Trance Energy etc. to some friends and they immediately all wanted to go


Posted by Antony on Nov-17-2005 20:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Synthesia
Haha np matey

Oh and btw..thats a very good point you mention..video's...I showed the Sensation White videos, the Megamixes, Trance Energy etc. to some friends and they immediately all wanted to go


hehe, I showed them the 10 minute long 18 years illusion video by DVMC. and they all went crazy on those lasers


Posted by Omega_Blue on Nov-17-2005 20:51:

involver


Posted by Synthesia on Nov-19-2005 07:57:

Thought about this track the other day too which many non-trancers love:

Motorcycle - As The Rush Comes


Posted by Aramis on Nov-21-2005 03:04:

Most people have a built in delay between hearing music and deciding that they like it. Sometimes it takes a while - even years - for people to realize that it's okay to like something. It has to become familiar.

Back in the 80's I loved stuff like Art of Noise, Kraftwerk and the synth-pop tunes of that era. In the 90's the 'techno' I heard seemed bland and repetitive and it wasn't until later (95?) that I heard The Chemical Brothers' Exit Planet Dust and it changed the way I listened to music.

Just as it takes a while to hear a foreign language as anything other than gibberish, it takes a lot of exposure for a 'foreign' musical style to make sense to the neophyte.

Just play what you like, and if your friends don't like it then tell them to fuck off. I've often visited friends that I haven't seen for years, only to find that they have nearly every album that I listened to at the time - even though they thought it was crap when they first heard it. They're usually anxious to plunder my current playlist too

You can't 'educate' people - you can only expose them to new things.


Posted by nfekted on Nov-21-2005 03:22:

you guys that are saying "let everyone listen to what they want to listen"....i agree with you 100%. I woulnd't like it if my friend tried to get me to listen to hip-hop LMAO!!!! okay okay sorry. But what you guys have to understand is that Antony has such a strong love for Trance(all edm i hope ) that he wants to show his friends what they're missing. I know i went through that phase a while ago. I wanted to get so much of my friends into it. I guess we all love trance sooo much that we want to spread the love.


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