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Posted by TigerClaw on Nov-19-2005 05:38:

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Originally posted by Turbonium
I don't agree. Optical storage just isn't as reliable for long term backup. For one thing, the only thing separating your data from the elements is this thin layer of material. And you gotta watch out for sunlight, humidity, disc bending (even slight), etc.

Optical storage just seems so fragile by nature. It's nothing but pits in a chemical medium. Nothing beats having a mirroring array of some sorts via enterprise-quality HDDs. It's expensive, but you get what you pay for.

Thats because people in general don't know how to handle CDRs or DVDRs, Everyone know that you should never grab or touch the reading part of them, It always pains me to see someone misshandling CDRs by leaving them laying around a counter or something with the lable facing up, When the part where it reads is laying down flat and getting scratches all over them or finger prints.

Posted by LuNaSeA on Nov-19-2005 05:59:

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Originally posted by Ygrene

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Originally posted by dj_bas
Oh Cool, Learn When Not to capitLize.

Posted by Turbonium on Nov-19-2005 06:00:

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Originally posted by TigerClaw
Thats because people in general don't know how to handle CDRs or DVDRs, Everyone know that you should never grab or touch the reading part of them, It always pains me to see someone misshandling CDRs by leaving them laying around a counter or something with the lable facing up, When the part where it reads is laying down flat and getting scratches all over them or finger prints.

I for one know how to handle them, but I know that, as a result of shelf-life, the integrity of the discs WILL degrade.

Honestly, try researching on the net. The nature of optical discs, particularly in the way that they are implemented in terms of "@ home burning", is such that the disc integrity will break down eventually. Sometimes within 10 years even on high quality medium.

Posted by tranceDJ on Nov-19-2005 06:34:

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Originally posted by Turbonium
I for one know how to handle them, but I know that, as a result of shelf-life, the integrity of the discs WILL degrade.

Honestly, try researching on the net. The nature of optical discs, particularly in the way that they are implemented in terms of "@ home burning", is such that the disc integrity will break down eventually. Sometimes within 10 years even on high quality medium.

They are less durable but they are cheaper than going out and getting a new hard drive...hard drives will always be fine as long as you buy a decent one and are careful not to get viruses.

Posted by eternity4ever on Nov-19-2005 07:13:

i had a 30 gig temp hardrive crash past week.
it felt like a friend or a family just past away.

but luckly i got most of the stuff back.

Posted by mizzuno on Nov-19-2005 13:01:

The two worst enemies of your hard drive are:

1.heat
2.vibration

Optical media has its own issues, particularly a fungus/mold that happens tothrive on aluminum, which just so happens to be the substrate that the pits are burned into. This problem tends to rear its head under circumstances where there is high humidity present. Check your old cdrs for what looks like darkened areas especially aroung the edges,that is probably the aforementioned problem, it only get worse so make sure you make a copy asap.

If you really want protection i suggest RAID 1 disk mirroring, while this does not guarantee no loss of data, it reduces the probability by an order of magnitude. The likelyhood of two hard drives failing simultaneously is very low.

Posted by Allied Nations on Nov-19-2005 13:16:

just make sure the bulk of your data is in two places

or at least the data you care about.

Posted by mizzuno on Nov-19-2005 13:20:

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Originally posted by dinoXpress
just make sure the bulk of your data is in two places

or at least the data you care about.

best advice there is..

Posted by Allied Nations on Nov-19-2005 13:31:

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Originally posted by mizzuno
best advice there is..

Hence the reason I've never lost a single mp3..

I mean never lost a single file.

Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Nov-19-2005 18:44:

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Originally posted by dinoXpress
Hence the reason I've never lost a single mp3..

I mean never lost a single file.

banned!

Posted by Boomer187 on Nov-19-2005 18:49:

everyone who reads this thread will have their hard drive crash soon!

Posted by Coup on Nov-19-2005 19:20:

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Originally posted by Boomer187
everyone who reads this thread will have their hard drive crash soon!

lol! I use Optical media and HDD's. Ive never had a CD ive owned from beginning of its life fail on me. Ive always looked after them etc.

Posted by igottaknow on Nov-19-2005 19:36:

only woosies back up their mp3 eeer i mean their data. Come on be men, live on the edge.

Posted by Boomer187 on Nov-19-2005 19:44:

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Originally posted by Coup
lol! I use Optical media and HDD's. Ive never had a CD ive owned from beginning of its life fail on me. Ive always looked after them etc.

yea I dont take care of my cds....except for the ones with tracks Ive bought. the rest are in spindles or stacked on each other in a puddle of coke.

Posted by LeopoldStotch on Nov-19-2005 19:56:

i do backup my stuff on secondary hard drives, hoping the HDD won't crap out on me .. i trust optical now and again, but i don't like it when my cd/dvd drives crap out on me, because i have used it too much ... the oh so classic message i usually get is 'data cyclic redundancy error' .

but yeah .... live on the edge ... you don't have to backup your mp3s .. you can always sing your classic favorites back again ..

Posted by Coup on Nov-19-2005 20:30:

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Originally posted by LeopoldStotch
but yeah .... live on the edge ... you don't have to backup your mp3s .. you can always sing your classic favorites back again ..

that doesnt work when you get all nostalgic and put in the cd u burned 4 years ago and re-live the old classics.

Posted by LeopoldStotch on Nov-20-2005 01:49:

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Originally posted by Coup
that doesnt work when you get all nostalgic and put in the cd u burned 4 years ago and re-live the old classics.

yes ... those old classic burned cds labeled 'mp3s from napster' .... ... kidding ...

i will tell you this .. if it wasnt for napster, my weak knowledge of edm music wouldn't be as vast as it is right now ... hahhahahaha .... but yeah ... back then, it was very hard for me to find the 'magik muzik' sets, live sets, etc without downloading it ....

a hip hip horray for napster and audiogalaxy ...

Posted by arturob on Nov-20-2005 02:03:

if you *value* your data a lot,,, get a decent NAS w/ RAID 5 and you'll be ok ~

Posted by prothoid on Nov-20-2005 03:41:

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Originally posted by LeopoldStotch
yes ... those old classic burned cds labeled 'mp3s from napster' .... ... kidding ...

i will tell you this .. if it wasnt for napster, my weak knowledge of edm music wouldn't be as vast as it is right now ... hahhahahaha .... but yeah ... back then, it was very hard for me to find the 'magik muzik' sets, live sets, etc without downloading it ....

a hip hip horray for napster and audiogalaxy ...

Audiogalaxy! I remember it. I used to love it, then it became pay-only

Posted by igottaknow on Nov-20-2005 04:37:

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Originally posted by LeopoldStotch
yes ... those old classic burned cds labeled 'mp3s from napster' .... ... kidding ...

i will tell you this .. if it wasnt for napster, my weak knowledge of edm music wouldn't be as vast as it is right now ... hahhahahaha .... but yeah ... back then, it was very hard for me to find the 'magik muzik' sets, live sets, etc without downloading it ....

a hip hip horray for napster and audiogalaxy ...

you sicken me. its ppl like you who are putting metallica in the whore house.

Posted by Turbonium on Nov-20-2005 08:00:

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Originally posted by arturob
if you *value* your data a lot,,, get a decent NAS w/ RAID 5 and you'll be ok ~

RAID-1 should be fine for the average user.

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