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Originally posted by Xenocreator_PG_ OH MY FREAKEN GOAT! You are ALL wrong. I can believe how naive you all are! Are you all idiots? I mean gees come on, wake up & smell the cheese. Just have a look at the other 'types' of gangs out there; Like the Blue Collar Workers! Have you ever seen anything so ridicules? These guys are going to work & are talking in this weird slang, saying stuff like "I think I will have another cup of coffee this morning". These guys are so caught up in the "image". If the invoicing doesn't get done then what do they do??? They handball it onto the young graduate & blame him for missed deadlines. And then there are the football coaches. Who the hell do they think they are wearing shorts & a whistle hanging around their neck?! Im sure they have a superiority complex & get a boner everytime they blow their whistle. Foot ball coaches are so lame. "play ball" FTWBBQ! Im definitely not going to "play ball" in that loser fad gang.

hahaha, that post is the funniest i've read in a while

I agree paul, i feel edm wont really get into americas youth. you're right, we are image obsessed. Americans are very conservative when it comes to music. My brother, who is 18, detests trance music. he says its so fucking "gay" and he hates it. Honestly i dont understand how you can call edm "gay" when he listens to 70s & 80s buttrock thats older then him, with his hands cocked like this all the time \M/ hes not a rocker, not a punk, but all americans for the most part, do not like hearing styles of music they havent heard before.

I agree with the homeboy mentality, it is rampent here. I see tons of kids driving around in their riced out hondas blasting hip-hop, and im like "dude ur white, the song ur 'bumping to' says 'fuck white people' come on"

Plus, Since like you mentioned before Americans are image conscience, insecurity and whats "popular" at the time also dictates what people "like"

This is why EDM wont become mainstream....Americans are too conservative in musical styles, the common stereotype is that youth is too concerned what their friends will think of their new music cuz it means ur "gay" to like EDM, and Americas true club scene is nothing like Europes....everyones like "OMFGZ ITS TEH BLINK 182 CONCERT LOLZ, TIME TO GO HAVE FUN DOING NOTHING ROFLZ"

I need a tshirt that says "America sucks at clubbing."

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Originally posted by Xenocreator_PG_ Have you ever seen anything so ridicules?

that's the most ironic thing i've ever read.

"ridiculous"

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Originally posted by punjabi that's the most ironic thing i've ever read. "ridiculous"

hahahaha

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Originally posted by eFeKz I need a tshirt that says "America sucks at clubbing."

That would be a great Shirt. I'd buy it.

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Originally posted by islandmixer That would be a great Shirt. I'd buy it.

I'm sure this is quite predictable, but I think that'd be my new favorite clubbing shirt.

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Originally posted by punjabi that's the most ironic thing i've ever read. "ridiculous"

by gee golly gosh. Sir you a right. Speelling Error! That is crazy!

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Originally posted by eFeKz I agree with the homeboy mentality, it is rampent here. I see tons of kids driving around in their riced out hondas blasting hip-hop, and im like "dude ur white, the song ur 'bumping to' says 'fuck white people' come on" Plus, Since like you mentioned before Americans are image conscience, insecurity and whats "popular" at the time also dictates what people "like"

Lets not forget that huge companies like Tommy Hilfiger have forged their whole image on the "hip hop" identity which has become so huge in the US. If people are bombarded in the media and on the streets by brands, fashion and music based on young, african-american style that is seen as cool, then it is only natural that many of them will adopt that style and the music to go with it.

Check out this documentary that was aired in the Us about the "merchants of cool". Fascinating viewing IMO

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/front...hows/cool/view/

Also check out Naomi Klein's book "No Logo" if you are interested in marketing and globalisation and stuff like that.

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Originally posted by punjabi well man, youre pretty wrong. theres a lot more than 3 types of teenagers here. not all of us white kids are wiggers. i could elaborate but i'd be writing for days. im assuming you've never been to america.

i didn't claim to be right, all along i am saying that the way the media portrays american teenagers here is the way that i have explained. as i said, the americans i have met before aren't like this and I am probably as far from the truth about the place as you can get but i am only basing my opinions on what i see and hear about america. i was in florida once but i was only 11 so can't remember much except for the rollercoasters

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Originally posted by eFeKz I agree with the homeboy mentality, it is rampent here. I see tons of kids driving around in their riced out hondas blasting hip-hop, and im like "dude ur white, the song ur 'bumping to' says 'fuck white people' come on"

that's exactly the image i was talking bout! complete gobshites!

it's funny
Most teens in US (especially my college dorm neighbors) calls EDM (Trance to be specific) "TECHNO"....

And I think EDM should remain underground, while having an "door" (like famous DJ, Tiesto) for people to come in to clubs/raves and explore EDM themselves.

No kidding...thank God for Armin, PVD, Tiesto etc...I was able hook on to and love EDM instead of rap/r&B (which is MAJORLY overplayed here in the US).

It's kinda boring to hear "the shit, is Bananas B-A-N-A-N-A-S" every single day on the radio....

Lol you think America has it bad?

At least you guys can go to a CD shop and buy Electronica.

The reason kids never really get into the club scene is because we cant have fun at a club. The cops hear the electronic music and automatically send in undercover cops / raid the building / harass the club patrons.

Ive had four favorite clubs, in the city north and south of me. Of the four, three were raided while i was attending. One of them two times. Ive been to raided parties, followed till i left the city by police just waiting for me to drive over a line on the road so they could pull me. Clubbing seems to have a hard time around here because people dont want to go to jail

Also it seems what you are describing as teen agers fit in the 12-16 bracket which usually cant get in a club around here anyways (18+) or (21+)

I think that it's more likely that it will be nuclear or biological weapons that breaks America

Which reminds me. Is breaks big in the US club scene? Or is it just that cheesy Tiesto/Corsten/Armin crap - you know, the stuff that EuroBarbie would play at her prom-night cheerleader party.

I disagree completely with the OP. The reason trance isnt as big nationally here than somewhere else is because we have more diversity not less. You might only see what is shown on television but if you walked onto any school grounds, campus, or gathering place for young adults you would notice that the different tastes in music is diverse. What you see and hear(mainstream radio and MTV) that is popular are bands and individuals cattering to the pre-teens and young teenagers because they get their parent's money to buy cds at a greater rate than older music listeners. At the ages of 12-16 or so you listen to what your friends and others listen to not what you like and later you decide what your music taste is. It is sad that children are so influenced by each other and media but that is the way it works here.

In the end I believe that there are just as many people 17-30 in the United States that listen to EDM than other countries. Also many people are forgetting that most of today's "rap music" and "pop music" in the United States are forms of EDM, they just arent 4/4 music.

EDM is popular in America. Just not the EDM you like is popular.



Everyone wants to complain about being a persecuted minority class.

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Originally posted by Ishkur EDM is popular in America. Just not the EDM you like is popular.

Exactly. Didnt you guys like invent techno and house?

I dont think trance will ever really gel with the US, you guys are far too up your own arse to let yourselves go enough to actually appreciate it... present TA company excluded ofcourse... lol

It's the lack of lyrics. Americans need vocals to sing along to, and EDM doesn't quite fit the bill.

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Originally posted by sw1 It's the lack of lyrics. Americans need vocals to sing along to, and EDM doesn't quite fit the bill.

Thats a very good reason. Of course its not the only reason, but its one of probably 100 reasons why edm will never catch on in the usa. That also explains why songs like "as the rush comes" gain more popularity here than other songs.

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Originally posted by Ishkur EDM is popular in America. Just not the EDM you like is popular. Everyone wants to complain about being a persecuted minority class.

Ya that's why the last time I saw an EDM video on Muchmusic was back when Sandstorm was a hit. Of course, there are clubs that play EDM in North America but it doesn't get anywhere near the exposure that any of those other big genres get. That's a fact.

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Originally posted by charon Thats a very good reason. Of course its not the only reason, but its one of probably 100 reasons why edm will never catch on in the usa. That also explains why songs like "as the rush comes" gain more popularity here than other songs.

That's also why mainstream radio stations will not play EDM. Songs like "Children" and "Sandstorm" only became popular in the mainstream because they got exposure on Top 40 radio. They are a couple of the exceptions to the rules when it comes to broadcast radio. Catchy, memorable lyrics are where it's at with mainstream media. Prime example is "My Humps". IMO, it's a stupid song, but it's definitely got catchy and memorable lyrics.

you'll have to wait until europe joins back upto the usa, possibly 3000000 years

Recent lack of rave parties due to continuous crackdowns from the law will most certainly not help in offering a primary exposure to the music to the youth which will form the core of the club followers in a couple years.

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Originally posted by SteveMKIIDub I don't think I want EDM to be popular. Right now, I love the fact that I'm one of the only people I know that listens to it and can name off more then just Tiesto as a DJ. It's somethign I take pride in, being so very unique... And I LOVE the ignorant insults that come from people when they think of EDM.. I need a chuckle in my day to stay normal!!

ME TOO

The Disco Sucks movement pretty much killed any chance of EDM in the states. anything with a 4x4 is considered weak by those people.

Though I don't mind if edm gets popular, it's awesome how smaller it is compared to other genres, it has a more intimate feel.

I live Montreal, Canada. There's tons of American influence here (music wise). ALthough much different from the rest of canada cuz we speak french also. Hip Hop is the mainstream music today. I agree with the thread starter that Americans (and lots of canadian) kids are way too image conscious. EDM is not what most people listen and most kids stick with hip hop to be part of a certain crowd. I know one thing though, A LOT of hip hop listeners shift towards EDM as they come out of their teens. AT a certain point in your life, you dont want to hear how about what (most) rappers have to say anymore, you just want to party and enjoy the music and have a good vibe. EDM will get big in America. It's big everywhere else except here. But its time is coming.

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