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Posted by r5a on Nov-28-2005 16:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Sand Leaper
... but I thought this thread wasn't about that sort of vibe..


quote:
Originally posted by Estella
Can anyone recommend tunes similiar to:


It can be brutal or harder edged


Guess I took it a bit far, Oh well.

@ Sand Leaper,
I thought that remix of Murder was the Bass was mint! Sick stuff.

@ Estella,
I have no idea, I'll try and figure it out for you.


Posted by tranceaddict991 on Nov-28-2005 17:46:

concord dawn, goldie, john b, black sun empire, pendulum, spirit, high contrast, xrs, marky, bad company


Posted by TOR on Nov-28-2005 18:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Sand Leaper
Concord Dawn - Morning Light


mmmm nice


what kind of d'n'b do Pendulum produce btw? haven't been following the scene for a few years now.. i really need to get into it again


Posted by Pio on Nov-28-2005 20:11:

quote:
Originally posted by TOR


what kind of d'n'b do Pendulum produce btw?


Clownstep!

I'm surprised to see so many people hyping Pendulum on TA lately. Granted that they are great producers and decent DJs, but hardly the best. I actually found the new album to be rather dissapointing.

Pendulum is the boy band of drum and bass. The wobble sound gets tiring after a while. Then again this is TA so it shouldn't surprise me that people like the more commercial dnb after all.

I prefer my dnb to be either more liquid funk a la Breakage, High Contrast, D- Bridge, Seba, etc.....or edgier like Raiden, Noisia, Matrix...


Posted by r5a on Nov-28-2005 21:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Pio
I prefer my dnb to be either more liquid funk a la Breakage, High Contrast, D- Bridge, Seba, etc.....or edgier like Raiden, Noisia, Matrix...
Got any set recommendations in the likes of Raiden?

Thanks.


Posted by basd on Nov-28-2005 22:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Sand Leaper
That would work nicely. Another option would be to put Doop - Doop on infinite repeat, crank it up a few dozen dB and then send hordes of demons to every part of the globe with speakers on their backs. And for those who haven't heard Doop - Doop, be thankful. It is truly a diabolic creation.

Thank God there's always that one guy that likes to share...

As for D&B, I never got any further into it than those mix CDs called "Atmospheric drum 'n' bass".. I even forgot who did them. Ah well, it's just not my genre.


Posted by bigg2 on Nov-28-2005 22:12:

quote:
Originally posted by s3nate
I don't think much people here listen to drum and bass...

dumb n bass is the way to go


Posted by Pio on Nov-28-2005 22:48:

quote:
Originally posted by r5a
Got any set recommendations in the likes of Raiden?

Thanks.


Raiden is great. He's like a fusion of tech step dnb and minimal techno.


Here are some similar artists, even if not quite the same thing...but they all are mainly tech step and neuro funk artists.....

Teebee
Kemal
Rob Data
Universal Project
Technical Itch
Dylan
Silent Witness
Ancronix
Hidden
Kryptic Minds
Klute
Muffler
Counterstrike
Skynet
Dsci4
Matrix
Fierce
Noisia
Dom & Roland
Calyx

Even Pendulum is supposed to be techstep in many ways...at least it used to back when Vault was released. But their sound right now is way too wobbly jump up and mainstream.


Posted by idoru on Nov-28-2005 22:55:

quote:
Originally posted by medinaM5
seattle has a lot of good DnB talent, wouldnt u say idoru?


Yep. DnB in Seattle is like... fuck... I can't think of a good analogy.


Posted by r5a on Nov-29-2005 03:02:

quote:
Originally posted by basd
As for D&B, I never got any further into it than those mix CDs called "Atmospheric drum 'n' bass".. I even forgot who did them. Ah well, it's just not my genre.
Aphrodite did.


Posted by r5a on Nov-29-2005 03:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Pio
Raiden is great. He's like a fusion of tech step dnb and minimal techno.


Here are some similar artists, even if not quite the same thing...but they all are mainly tech step and neuro funk artists.....

Teebee
Kemal
Rob Data
Universal Project
Technical Itch
Dylan
Silent Witness
Ancronix
Hidden
Kryptic Minds
Klute
Muffler
Counterstrike
Skynet
Dsci4
Matrix
Fierce
Noisia
Dom & Roland
Calyx

Even Pendulum is supposed to be techstep in many ways...at least it used to back when Vault was released. But their sound right now is way too wobbly jump up and mainstream.
Right on man, cheers! Thanks alot for doing this, I'll check it out.


Posted by Kakoroto on Nov-29-2005 06:01:

Of the DnB that I do listen to its usually one of these

Rawthang
Black Sun Empire
Dieselboy


Posted by basd on Nov-29-2005 08:13:

quote:
Originally posted by r5a
Aphrodite did.

Thanks.. That does ring a bell indeed.

May have to give them a listen again, as I remember enjoying those mixes in the past.


Posted by Estella on Nov-29-2005 19:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Sand Leaper
That would work nicely. Another option would be to put Doop - Doop on infinite repeat, crank it up a few dozen dB and then send hordes of demons to every part of the globe with speakers on their backs. And for those who haven't heard Doop - Doop, be thankful. It is truly a diabolic creation.


We're talking SATAN!!! Not a Pee Wee herman gnome churning butter while on a pogo stick.

Thanks Dewd for the link! Dl'ing now.

Just outta curiosity, what is prominent in the Seattle DnB scene, that ranks it up in caliber? I don't know anything of scenes, but I did attend a DnB event here in the Midwest and there was a definite "vibe" It was more intense, kinda cold and... sterile? It seemed to be solely about the music, nothing more. There were no candy kids, it was mainly an older crowd. I felt like I was at a wine tasting, where only the refined tastes were allowed. You didn't dance, there were no circles around the breakdancing, everyone was staring straight at the dj, nodding their heads. Because of this, it seemed that at the drop of a Levi jean lint, the whole place was going to combust in tiny particles at any second. It was something I've never witnessed before. As if these people crawled out of the ground, gave their silent, intense recognition and then left, never to speak of the event again as it was some 7th marvel secret of the world. Am I the only one whos experienced this?



There's my once daily people profiling.


Posted by Estella on Nov-29-2005 19:53:

Why does the syncopation of DnB remind me of jazz, always?

This is nice so far, Dewdette. Much thanks to thee.

Edit* That tune at 23:39 is _______!!!


Posted by Sand Leaper on Nov-29-2005 20:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Estella
Why does the syncopation of DnB remind me of jazz, always?


If I'm not mistaken, this guy is largely to blame for that.


Posted by Estella on Nov-29-2005 20:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Sand Leaper
If I'm not mistaken, this guy is largely to blame for that.


Blame? rather than praise? He looks young, are you saying he was the innovator? I wonder just how similar they are in structure and theory. You mean!!! All those hard asses are bobbing their heads to a potential sped up Joplin ragtime beat?


Posted by Sand Leaper on Nov-29-2005 20:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Estella
Blame? rather than praise?


Blame or praise depends on who you ask. The "jazzstep" sound Reece coined when he was on Metalheadz had a lot of followers, but it was also copied and watered out to a large degree. Ultimately, it produced a horde of weedy and navelgazing records which gave the whole idea of mixing jazz with d'n'b quite negative connotations.

Reece later started fighting with Goldie, which pretty much put a nail in his coffin as far as a career within jungle was concerned. I wouldn't be surprised if it was due to severe musical differences.


Posted by Estella on Nov-29-2005 20:21:

I see.

This is taken from a site: "There is no universally accepted semantic distinction between the terms "jungle" and "drum and bass". Some associate "jungle" with older material from the first half of the 1990s, and see drum and bass as essentially succeeding jungle with the newer, post-techstep developments."

So the "post-techstep" is the jazz element that Reece added? Because the majority of ALL the DnB I've listened to reminded me of jazz. How could he have been so influential?


Posted by Aiwendil on Nov-29-2005 20:25:

It began in Africa


Posted by Estella on Nov-29-2005 20:26:

Actually, can you just mention a "jungle" track? I want to see if it still reminds me of jazz. Ohhh that huge Raiden tracklist that r5 provided didn't. Is that jungle?


Posted by r5a on Nov-29-2005 20:52:

quote:
Originally posted by basd
Thanks.. That does ring a bell indeed.

May have to give them a listen again, as I remember enjoying those mixes in the past.

No problem.

For sure, they're really mint. I downloaded it and then quickly went hunting to find the album. Took me ages but found it, def worth the purcahse imho. Quality stuff and the mixing is flawless.

That reminds me, I have to go hunting for more Aph's stuff...

@ Estella,
The tune at 23 is
DK8 - Murder Was The Bass (Raiden Remix)


Posted by r5a on Nov-29-2005 21:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Estella
Actually, can you just mention a "jungle" track? I want to see if it still reminds me of jazz. Ohhh that huge Raiden tracklist that r5 provided didn't. Is that jungle?
No, atleast I don't think so. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Jungle, isn't that like Shy FX & UK Apache - Original Nuttah for example?


Posted by Estella on Nov-29-2005 21:03:

quote:
Originally posted by r5a
No problem.

For sure, they're really mint. I downloaded it and then quickly went hunting to find the album. Took me ages but found it, def worth the purcahse imho. Quality stuff and the mixing is flawless.

That reminds me, I have to go hunting for more Aph's stuff...

@ Estella,
The tune at 23 is
DK8 - Murder Was The Bass (Raiden Remix)


Hey thanks! I appreciate that.

I've just listened to

Shy fx - This Style
Dillinja - Nasty Ways (Shy fx mix)

and still heard that foundation jazz step. Excuse me lack of technical language, but the background underlying sycopated beat.


Posted by r5a on Nov-29-2005 21:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Estella
Hey thanks! I appreciate that.

I've just listened to

Shy fx - This Style
Dillinja - Nasty Ways (Shy fx mix)

and still heard that foundation jazz step. Excuse me lack of technical language, but the background underlying sycopated beat.
No problem, everyone has to start somewhere.

I'm not too good at this either myself bro, I just started (well kind of) getting into this. So I myself am just learning and trying to understand hehe.

Found another Raiden set.
http://dl.dnbmuc.de/sound/Raiden_-_...ns_19102005.mp3
01. Prode - Sun Influences
02. Dom + Gridlok - Hooked
03. ? - ?
04. ? - ?
05. DK8 - Murder Was The Bass (Raiden RMX)
06. Raiden + Propaganda - Machinesoul
07. Raiden/Propaganda - ? SIIIIIICK
08. Raiden - Chernobyl 4
09. Prode - Borer
10. Lethal + Khanage - Jawbreaker
11. The Sect - Nerve Attacks KILLA
12. Propaganda - The Real
13. Propaganda - Poin Of Contact
14. Temper D and K-Fire - all your bass are belong to us
15. Raiden - Ratchet
16. Panacea - Chrome VIP

Enjoy.

[EDIT]
Another set by Noisia this time...

Noisia-Guest mix on 1Xtra
http://drumbass.com.br/audio/mp3/sets/Noisia-The_Mix_Show_on_1Xtra_Guest_Mix.mp3
01 [00:00] Noisia & Phace - Homeworld
02 [03:46] Noisia & Mayhem - Lockjaw
03 [08:14] Drifter - Come True
04 [11:57] Noisia - Concussion
05 [13:51] Noisia & Phace & Stu - Dead Air
06 [16:48] Drifter - Sunstreak
07 [18:38] Drifter - Leola
08 [22:00] Matrix & Fierce - Tightrope
09 [24:36] Noisia - Cold Veins
10 [28:42] Noisia & Black Sun Empire - Untitled
11 [30:34] Noisia - Sandworm
12 [32:48] Noisia - The Distance
13 [35:46] Noisia & Pacific - On Your Mind
14 [38:22] Duo Infernale - Playing Games (Drifter Remix)
15 [41:45] Silent Witness & Break - Dialing Out
>>> [44:14] Hustle - Athletics Lekker
16 [44:28] Noisia & Bad Company UK - Meditation
17 [48:45] Noisia - Close To Me (Matrix Remix)
18 [52:40] Konflict - Messiah (Noisia Remix)

Check out this URL: http://dnbnation.com/viewtopic.php?t=5486&

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