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Originally posted by RebeL9 here is what I would consider as "REAL" trance: http://hem.bredband.net/homzaf/firedance.mp3 http://hem.bredband.net/homzaf/star.mp3 http://hem.bredband.net/homzaf/power.mp3 http://hem.bredband.net/homzaf/paraglidersoasis.mp3 oh yeah there are still producers who make trance which isn't ravaged by the supersaws and vocals.

Wikked tunes

so basically, uplifting is different for everyone bcz different songs uplift different ppl.

in my opinion, oceanlab - satellite is uplifting.

to me, i also consider uplifting tracks songs that uplift a set to a higher/harder level. for example, u play satelite and then play a harder track after that. so i consider satelite the uplifting track of the set.

thats how i consider it, im not saying im right. plz correct me if im totally wrong

p.s. i thought there was NO genre called TRANCE back in the days, trance is a new born genre from all the other classics, including the ones u posted above.

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Originally posted by stefanoc p.s. i thought there was NO genre called TRANCE back in the days, trance is a new born genre from all the other classics, including the ones u posted above.

you are wrong. the term "trance" have existed way over 10 years now

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Originally posted by RebeL9 you are wrong. the term "trance" have existed way over 10 years now

Make that 15. The use of the word "trance" with regards to long, repetitive electronic music dates back to the late 80s, with the genre finding a specific musical identity circa 1990/91. In essence, like drum 'n bass, the term existed before there was a cast iron style to actually apply it to.

I read somewhere that it was two German producers named Rolf Elmmer and Dag Lerner who released a tune around 1991/1992 called "Dance 2 Trance" on Suck Me Plasma. This was the first time, or so it is said, that the actual word "trance" was applied to electronic music. I'm not claiming that this must be true but it's what i've heard.

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Originally posted by Numidia I read somewhere that it was two German producers named Rolf Elmmer and Dag Lerner who released a tune around 1991/1992 called "Dance 2 Trance" on Suck Me Plasma. This was the first time, or so it is said, that the actual word "trance" was applied to electronic music. I'm not claiming that this must be true but it's what i've heard.

yea the duo called Dance 2 Trance released numerous trance hits back in early 90s. Most famous for Power of American Natives, Take a Free Fall ,Hello San Fransisco and We Came In Peace. They always had a great ethnic touch to their productions. They tried to use the trance music to go back to the roots of shamanic trance dances which can clearly be heard in many of their tunes.
Too bad they split up in 1995 after releasing only 2 albums.

oh btw:
http://hem.bredband.net/homzaf/power.mp3 = Dance 2 Trance - Power of American Natives (Dance 2 Trance remix) from 1993

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Originally posted by RebeL9 yea the duo called Dance 2 Trance released numerous trance hits back in early 90s. Most famous for Power of American Natives, Take a Free Fall ,Hello San Fransisco and We Came In Peace. They always had a great ethnic touch to their productions. They tried to use the trance music to go back to the roots of shamanic trance dances which can clearly be heard in many of their tunes. Too bad they split up in 1995 after releasing only 2 albums. oh btw: http://hem.bredband.net/homzaf/power.mp3 = Dance 2 Trance - Power of American Natives (Dance 2 Trance remix) from 1993

Why did they split up?

i always thought that "true" trance was the tribal music, where they all sing and hit bongas and they all go into a sort of trance, until one collapses...

This is probarbly is originated 10000's of years ago

This is NOT uplifting trance:




Thus concludes today's lesson. Stay tuned for lesson number two in the series "What is NOT uplifting trance", by Aiwendil McRadagast.

I think the definition of trance is highly subjective. I mean some people might think of trance as being ancient drum beats, others might think it's hypnotic rhythmns and trippy synth lines repeated over and over, still others might think of it as highly melodic and uplifting, transcendent music that is euphoric and ethereal sounding. It COULD be all of these, because within the Trance genre there are stuff that is more percussive, like tribal trance/house and even some psy trance, hypnotic/trippy like a good number of psy trance tunes are as well as tech, acid and hard and even some progressive, and of course the transcendent sound heard in a lot of melodic progressive, ibizean or chill (ambient...breakbeat trance whatever you want to call it??) trance (like old chicane) and epic trance music.

I used to think that trance was just the first two back when I first got into the music, but over time as it has grown on me and became my most favorite type of music, has it's definition changed a little. I started to see where trance could apply to a good majority of the music I listened to that was transcedent, meaning it makes you feel like your in some other world or of being connected, really good for conjuring up images in your head. It's just stuff you can put on, chill to and just dream to. Takes you on a trip basically, so in a way I would even consider music by Enigma to be trance (trancy?), because of it's transcedent and highly emotional atmosphere. Hence trance = transcedent. The first two can most definitely be thought of this way as well, but I personally find music that is highly melodic, with layers and a euphoric atmosphere to be the most transcedent to me when I just chill to it at home... that other stuff works great on the dancefloor dancing to it, but I personally wouldn't just sit down and listen to it on a daily basis at home.

The definition of trance music has been pretty standardised in it's 15 or so years as a concept. Generally, I've always taken trance to imply rhythmic complexity and repetitiveness.

In my opinion, uplifting is trance that marries these two concepts with sharp increases in musical energy. A lot of prog trance up even to now can be considered uplifting in this sense.

A song that I would label as not uplifting is definitely Atmos - Klein Aber Doctor. The energy builds up extremely slowly in that one, and the only sharp changes in intensity actually drop the energy level. In fact, a lot of early psy trance was like that, and there's still a lot of psy out there that builds incredibly slowly.

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Originally posted by Project 7 i always thought that "true" trance was the tribal music, where they all sing and hit bongas and they all go into a sort of trance, until one collapses... This is probarbly is originated 10000's of years ago

Yeah, but what you describe has nothing to do with the genre labelled "trance" other than it's repetitive, hypnotic nature. I could say that Phuture - Acid Trax is trance because it does a good job of zoning my out over 12 minutes of acid psychedelia, or Plastikman's album Musik, even though it's minimal acid techno... stuff.

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Originally posted by Project 7 i always thought that "true" trance was the tribal music, where they all sing and hit bongas and they all go into a sort of trance, until one collapses... This is probarbly is originated 10000's of years ago

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Originally posted by thoughtlessjex The definition of trance music has been pretty standardised in it's 15 or so years as a concept. Generally, I've always taken trance to imply rhythmic complexity and repetitiveness.

Well maybe stuff like Enigma, some Delerium, some Moby, some more modern stuff like Ulrich Schnauss and Royksopp (like melodic ambient in a sense) isn't exactly "trance" music per say but definitely puts you in a trance like state after listening to it because of it's ethereal quality that takes your mind away from reality. In a sense it has the same quality that a lot of trance does. I listened to artists like Enigma and Delerium before I was really into trance, but I feel trance music was the logical progression for me when looking for music that had some similar qualities to those artists, just a lot more uplifting and energetic than some of those artists are.

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Originally posted by thoughtlessjex A song that I would label as not uplifting is definitely Atmos - Klein Aber Doctor. The energy builds up extremely slowly in that one, and the only sharp changes in intensity actually drop the energy level. In fact, a lot of early psy trance was like that, and there's still a lot of psy out there that builds incredibly slowly.

Fuck that was an awesome track. Off one of the flying rhino compilations I think? I really loved some of that early progressive stuff like son kite and kopfuss resonator, they had some mad tracks.

I think uplifting is a term that can used to describe any type of music. If people are looking for happy trance they tend to say 'uplifting' just the same as they might say 'dark' trance. Its not really a genre per-se as it is a desription for the musical aesthetic.

I dont recall it being used very much a few years back either. Back then it was just epic trance or trance. There were labels that put out that style of music... platypus, anjuna beats etc, but overall it wasnt a genre in itself. I think any form of trance can be uplifting though. There plenty of prog and psy and even techno tracks that could be termed uplifting.

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Originally posted by Aiwendil This is NOT uplifting trance: Thus concludes today's lesson. Stay tuned for lesson number two in the series "What is NOT uplifting trance", by Aiwendil McRadagast.

HAHAHA

*waits for Ishkur*

the best uplifting song is

Nightrace - Neverending Story (Club Mix)

owns your face

Chakra - Opacity

nuff said

Uplifting could = NU NRG. :-D

-- Yousuf

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Originally posted by Eagle` Chakra - Opacity nuff said

Opacity ftw!

Once again, this is NOT uplifting trance:



But it is one badass looking little bug though. End lesson two of "What is NOT uplifting trance" by Aiwendil McRadagast.

I see your mantis and raise you a flesh eating hellhound!

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Originally posted by Axolotyl I see your mantis and raise you a flesh eating hellhound!

thats very nice, you fried your dog but kept him alive, cute

trance today relies on deep basslines and simple melodies...what has become more known as progressive trance.

Uplifting trance, at least back in the day, seemed to use big synths as its main piece, with relatively simple basslines.

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