Steve Angelo & Sebastian Ingrosso present MODE HOOKER-BREATHE

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Posted by Cloud on Dec-07-2005 22:09:

quote:
Originally posted by basd
As if it hasn't gotten 'to be whored out' written all over it. It's just one more tune in the 'Murder was the bass' category, i.e., nothing too special, yet appealing enough for a wide variety of DJs.

I do not deem you stupid enough to not have seen that coming.

2nd quote ist wrong...

Posted by basd on Dec-07-2005 22:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Siatrovouni
2nd quote ist wrong...

True, and fixed. I knew who originally posted it though, so it doesn't change my opinion.

Posted by Clovis on Dec-07-2005 23:22:

Posted by SteveAngello on Dec-08-2005 02:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Haak
if you are really Steve Angello, why the hell would you make a track meant to be filler?

Alot of people make filler tracks, Ive made quite a few over my time, you cant play banging stuff for 2 hours straight, if you do, you arent a DJ, besides ever hear of trying new things ? Artists are allowed to go in a different direction every once in a while, and not just use the same synth, same pads, same shit for every track they put out

Posted by basd on Dec-08-2005 11:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis86
Certain DJs know how to use it right, some open their sets with it.

I'm pretty sure that can be done properly as well. Maybe not as an opener (you'd only scare people away from the dancefloor with that rediculously long buildup), but that's not what we were talking about.

Posted by Ted Promo on Dec-08-2005 13:22:

Posted by Haak on Dec-08-2005 14:37:

quote:
Originally posted by SteveAngello
Alot of people make filler tracks, Ive made quite a few over my time, you cant play banging stuff for 2 hours straight, if you do, you arent a DJ, besides ever hear of trying new things ? Artists are allowed to go in a different direction every once in a while, and not just use the same synth, same pads, same shit for every track they put out

did i say anything to indicate i'm against trying new things? and do you really call this trying new things? it sounds like all your other tunes except it's emptier. what i meant is why would you make a half-assed tune on purpose? i could understand it if you only wanted to use it in your own sets, but why throw it out for relase then, a-side even? personally i could never call a tune finished untill i think it's really great, but people are different i guess.

Posted by l�cid on Dec-08-2005 18:09:

Posted by Wyndham on Dec-08-2005 19:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Haak
did i say anything to indicate i'm against trying new things? and do you really call this trying new things? it sounds like all your other tunes except it's emptier. what i meant is why would you make a half-assed tune on purpose? i could understand it if you only wanted to use it in your own sets, but why throw it out for relase then, a-side even? personally i could never call a tune finished untill i think it's really great, but people are different i guess.

ur quite the idiot in the first place for asking why someone would make a filler song... if u think a producers job or djs job is to only put out/play massive songs ur very wrong. Any good dj, hell any dj that knows anything will tell you its the filler songs that make the difference in your sets, not the anthems u drop. Anyone can drop anthems but its what u play inbetween or to build up to them that makes the difference, how well u can keep people dancing in between ur big songs. Since angello djs too, its pretty obvious he made it for this purpose, a good song to keep people dancing while giving them a break at the same time.

good filler is the key to any djs set, without it ur just another radio dj dropping hits, which anyone can do.

just cause you dont classify this song as a "choon" doesn't mean its not a good song. I'd rather have an abundance of great filler than your "really great" anthems, makes your set much more diverse and you can take it many more directions.

He released this song for 2 reasons.. all djs need good filler, which is exactly what this song is.
and the $$$$ haha

Posted by Wyndham on Dec-08-2005 19:24:

lol as far as anyone playing aftermath in a trance set, u need help.
and for opening with it... what a way to waste a great song, this song should be dropped late in the set and late in the night to get the real effect.

when its dropped at the right time with the right build up, its amazing.
espically if u've had a constant beat/no breaks going for an hour +, then drop into this, place will loose it.

Posted by Haak on Dec-08-2005 21:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Wyndham
ur quite the idiot in the first place for asking why someone would make a filler song... if u think a producers job or djs job is to only put out/play massive songs ur very wrong. Any good dj, hell any dj that knows anything will tell you its the filler songs that make the difference in your sets, not the anthems u drop. Anyone can drop anthems but its what u play inbetween or to build up to them that makes the difference, how well u can keep people dancing in between ur big songs. Since angello djs too, its pretty obvious he made it for this purpose, a good song to keep people dancing while giving them a break at the same time.

good filler is the key to any djs set, without it ur just another radio dj dropping hits, which anyone can do.

just cause you dont classify this song as a "choon" doesn't mean its not a good song. I'd rather have an abundance of great filler than your "really great" anthems, makes your set much more diverse and you can take it many more directions.

He released this song for 2 reasons.. all djs need good filler, which is exactly what this song is.
and the $$$$ haha

idiot to you too. when i say a great tune, i don't mean an anthem. i don't rate the greatness of a tune depending on how "big" they sound. i know how to build a set, but i don't play any "filler" tracks, neither do i play many, if any "anthems". you build a set by using tracks with different levels of energy while keeping a nice flow.
what Angello said made it sound like he didn't put any effort into it and just made it for the money. the tune sounds like it took an hour or 2 to make, so he probably did.

Posted by Floorfiller on Dec-08-2005 21:43:

i agree with you Haak. i don't really like the idea of filler tracks either. for example...

DJ Remy - Pumped Up

is it going to be an anthem in a set? no, but its a badass tune to play...

i think filler track implies that it's lower quality...not that it's not an anthem. so maybe we're just talking about a choice of words which really isn't that big of a deal, but i agree with you...i don't like the idea of "filler" tracks.

Posted by bas on Dec-08-2005 21:46:

Posted by lazy chick on Dec-08-2005 21:58:

i think this is one of the best angello & ingrosso tracks....

Could do without the melodic part

reminds me like M. Dekay - bad a bit, which is his best track -the melodic part

-lee 5/10

Posted by Wyndham on Dec-08-2005 22:12:

filler does not mean lower quality whatsoever

haak u dont play any filler songs or anthems??? u have a set to d/l i'd like to hear what ur talkin about..building a set by using different levels of energy to flow up or down pretty much implies that you have some filler in there, thats the REASON for having it.

i think u misunderstand the meaning of filler track

o and by the way... the svd remix of breathe is prolly one of the biggest tracks right now,a filler song, and its really not that diff from the original.

i donno what djs u listen to, but they all play filler i guarentee it...though im open to being proved wrong......

Posted by lazy chick on Dec-08-2005 22:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Wyndham
i donno what djs u listen to, but they all play filler i guarentee it...though im open to being proved wrong......

armin, ferry, and not so much tiesto anymore

Posted by Wyndham on Dec-08-2005 22:31:

quote:
Originally posted by lazy chick
armin, ferry, and not so much tiesto anymore

hahahahahaha i figured some genius would post the top djs

if u think they dont play filler????? ur crazy

Posted by Floorfiller on Dec-08-2005 22:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Wyndham
filler does not mean lower quality whatsoever

well you are entitled to your own interpretation of what a filler track is, but to me a filler track is basically a track that you use in your set because you need to fill a spot...something that really isn't that great, but is good enough to play inbetween good songs.

and everyone's definition is going to be different because i think it varies a lot based on someone's taste.

for example:

John Digweed Live @ Global Gathering

01. Bedrock - Santiago
02. John Dalback - Prankster
03. El Presidente - Without You (Infusion 117 Stomping Dub)
04. DJ Phunk - Phunky
05. Bono - Let's Go
06. Gutterstylz - Dirtbox
07. Tronic Inc - Beloved
08. Pryda - Aftermath
09. Kisses From Venice - I Don't Know

now in this set IMO, i don't see anything filler tracks at all...every track is good and it flows very nice. as opposed to just playing tunes for the sake of playing them like you might get on ASOT or whatever...

Posted by lazy chick on Dec-08-2005 22:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
well you are entitled to your own interpretation of what a filler track is, but to me a filler track is basically a track that you use in your set because you need to fill a spot...something that really isn't that great, but is good enough to play inbetween good songs.

and everyone's definition is going to be different because i think it varies a lot based on someone's taste.

for example:

John Digweed Live @ Global Gathering

01. Bedrock - Santiago
02. John Dalback - Prankster
03. El Presidente - Without You (Infusion 117 Stomping Dub)
04. DJ Phunk - Phunky
05. Bono - Let's Go
06. Gutterstylz - Dirtbox
07. Tronic Inc - Beloved
08. Pryda - Aftermath
09. Kisses From Venice - I Don't Know

now in this set IMO, i don't see anything filler tracks at all...every track is good and it flows very nice. as opposed to just playing tunes for the sake of playing them like you might get on ASOT or whatever...

zip it, sasha & digweed live off filler house tracks, then throw something good in, thats what makes them really good, and where they got their "progressive" name from. throw a filler, build, throw a filler, build...

Setting up 1 track for another... They love to play fillers then drop something proggy, or trancy.

Santiago->prankster..without you & DJ Phunk - Phunky (filler house)... Let's go->dirtbox...Tronic Inc - Beloved (filler house))... Pryda - Aftermath

-lee

Posted by noikeee on Dec-08-2005 22:56:

for some of you "filler" means "not an anthem"

for others "filler" mean "lower quality"

for me.. well.. i don't care, it's semantics, just someone decide definitely for one of the meanings and proceed with the discussion by agreeing all with each other

Posted by Wyndham on Dec-08-2005 23:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
well you are entitled to your own interpretation of what a filler track is, but to me a filler track is basically a track that you use in your set because you need to fill a spot...something that really isn't that great, but is good enough to play inbetween good songs.

lol obviously a filler track is to fill a spot, but why can't it be great? Breathe is a filler song and a shitload of people like it...does that not mean its a great filler track? ummmm i think it does. and like i said... good filler makes a set.

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
John Digweed Live @ Global Gathering

01. Bedrock - Santiago
02. John Dalback - Prankster
03. El Presidente - Without You (Infusion 117 Stomping Dub)
04. DJ Phunk - Phunky
05. Bono - Let's Go
06. Gutterstylz - Dirtbox
07. Tronic Inc - Beloved
08. Pryda - Aftermath
09. Kisses From Venice - I Don't Know

now in this set IMO, i don't see anything filler tracks at all...every track is good and it flows very nice. as opposed to just playing tunes for the sake of playing them like you might get on ASOT or whatever...

way to pick a 1hr set... depending on who u ask could go both ways, could all be filler, or could be all top notch songs but its prog house, a bad example cause thats what digweed/sasha do..its all filler most of the time, and theyre good cause they dont rely on anthems to make their sets. And i didn't say djs play filler in every 1hr set..i said every dj plays filler, and digweed and sasha have a hell of a lot of it.

by the way i think the last song is called angelmoon - irregular peace

edit - lazy chick considers it all filler house... all the songs are great..the set is great.... so if we go by her defination...like i said.. good filler makes a set.

Posted by lazy chick on Dec-08-2005 23:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Wyndham

edit - lazy chick considers it all filler house... all the songs are great..the set is great.... so if we go by her defination...like i said.. good filler makes a set.

what?

Posted by Floorfiller on Dec-09-2005 00:51:

i hope you guys don't think i was saying breathe was a filler track? i'm just talking in response to what people were saying to Haak. hell i am one of the first people to ever mention Angello & Ingrosso on TA...i'm a big fan...

but i'm gonna stand by what i've said about filler tracks. maybe you think prog house is by definition filler, but i disagree completely. and i still think that to me...and i'm sure what Haak was getting at as well...is that filler to us is a really unimpressive track...and that's why we were confused as to why steve would call his own track a filler. you can call it whatever you want, but i'm gonna keep considering it what i want...anyway this is a stupid argument so yeah...i'll go back to reading other threads now

Posted by Wyndham on Dec-09-2005 01:51:

im not calling filler what i want, im calling it what IT IS, and to the rest of the world filler does not mean an unimpressive song. hence the term good filler lol. If the songs bad...its just bad, shit whatever, not filler.

Be my guest and think of the term however you want, but when people use it, espically dj's, its got nothing to do with a track not being impressive.

Posted by SteveAngello on Dec-09-2005 02:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Haak
idiot to you too. when i say a great tune, i don't mean an anthem. i don't rate the greatness of a tune depending on how "big" they sound. i know how to build a set, but i don't play any "filler" tracks, neither do i play many, if any "anthems". you build a set by using tracks with different levels of energy while keeping a nice flow.
what Angello said made it sound like he didn't put any effort into it and just made it for the money. the tune sounds like it took an hour or 2 to make, so he probably did.

You are not a DJ

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