Tiesto Banned from Canada (not actually)

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Posted by ChemEnhanced on Dec-06-2005 21:24:

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Originally posted by mikester69
Outside of North America, a much smaller amount of people do drugs at EDM parties. Sometimes I'm so disgusted when I walk into guv that I have to pop to enjoy myself

North America is so far behind europe when it comes to EDM it's unbelievable.

Posted by Tygon on Dec-06-2005 21:43:

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Originally posted by simms327
i bet if they made events go from 8pm to 2am, inestead of mdnight till 6am, less people would do drugs.

No... they'd simply find another place to do them...

Besides... you guys are talking about this like it's a new issue... I'll go back to my original point... look at Woodstock... look at Pink Floyd concerts... Jimmy Hendrix... it's all the same shit in a different era...

Currently I'd say drug use is at an all time low... I'm a kid from the rave era and I have to say, things really changed once the ravers merged into the club scene with the ginos

Site note... As the Rush Comes... I always related this to having sex..?

Posted by loca on Dec-06-2005 21:48:

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Originally posted by Tygon
Site note... As the Rush Comes... I always related this to having sex..?

Hmmm no, i thinking you're moving some of the words around lol
I always associated it with peaking

Posted by Matt on Dec-06-2005 21:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Tygon

Site note... As the Rush Comes... I always related this to having sex..?

"As the come rushes?"
-Dave Dresden

Posted by Tygon on Dec-06-2005 21:54:

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Originally posted by loca
Hmmm no, i thinking you're moving some of the words around lol

LOL!!!

Rush = Orgasm...

Come not= Cum

hehe apparently I was the only one that thought this... I think it's cuz her voice is just so damn sexy that my fantasies would get away from me when I heard this song... hahahaha

Posted by Takayuki on Dec-06-2005 21:59:

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Originally posted by 7-4-7
this is all very weak...

heh touch�

Posted by Nikitha on Dec-06-2005 21:59:

I find it quite funny that ppl think banning things will stop use of something undesireable....
there was this little thing..ahh what was it called? oh yeah... prohibition.
we all saw how that worked out...

Nikitha

Posted by Cosmic Fur on Dec-06-2005 22:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Nikitha
I find it quite funny that ppl think banning things will stop use of something undesireable....
there was this little thing..ahh what was it called? oh yeah... prohibition.
we all saw how that worked out...

Nikitha

Prohibition was a little different because they made something that was legal before illegal, as a result of the high society complaining. Last time I checked, E was always illegal (well, except for the brief period of time when it was first invented), and its use is looked down upon by the general populationa as well as the "snobbish elites" (although those people snort coke by the kilos).

Unless you're referring to Tiesto, in which case I say, he may be a jukebox, but calling him a "thing" is going a little far.

Posted by Nikitha on Dec-06-2005 22:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
Prohibition was a little different because they made something that was legal before illegal, as a result of the high society complaining. Last time I checked, E was always illegal (well, except for the brief period of time when it was first invented), and its use is looked down upon by the general populationa as well as the "snobbish elites" (although those people snort coke by the kilos).

Unless you're referring to Tiesto, in which case I say, he may be a jukebox, but calling him a "thing" is going a little far.

I was just talking about the general idea of it all... banning things because of undesireable behaviour....might do a little something... but doesn't do much

Nikitha

Posted by Minhaj on Dec-06-2005 22:12:

My favorite album of all time promotes drugs
Paul van Dyk - Out There And Back
Vega=Name of The Guy who sells drugs
Pikes=Name of the Drug
Another Way=Different Ways of taking the drug
Travelling=Acid Trip?
Avenue=Place Where You Take Drugs with Other People
Tell me Why (The Riddle)=Thinking about what would happen if u didnttake teh drugs? (Wonder if I could open my heart again)
Together We Will Conquer=Taking the drug with a loved one
Face 2 Face=the rain stops and sun comes out
The Love From Above=Buying More Drugs
Columbia=I dont think i have to explain that one
Out There And Back=Taking the last drug
We Are Alive=You And Your Loved one are Clean and Alive later on.

Posted by shanny on Dec-06-2005 22:24:

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Originally posted by dartrance
petti: Thats one of the most retarded statements i have ever heard.

You do know that every big name trance dj was playing that?
So i guess every superstar dj promotes drugs then, including the producer of that track?

Once again you go to the obvious target. You also know this is dance music were talking about right?

Of course people do drugs.

I don't think Pett was trying to make Tiesto seem bad, his point is that it is wrong to start censoring people or possibly not let them into Canada, ala what is happening with Fifty Cent right now.

I feel the same way, it is wrong to start stopping people from entering the country because of what they say in their music, whether it be hip hop or edm.
It sets a dangerous precident.

Posted by Orko on Dec-06-2005 22:31:

ah...Beatles anyone?

Posted by raveed on Dec-06-2005 23:05:

quote:
Originally posted by mikester69
Outside of North America, a much smaller amount of people do drugs at EDM parties.

Not a chance ... north america is still fairly conservative in its drug use as compared to England and Netherlands which im citing since they are the only 2 european countries ive partied in and trust me, the people out there do a lot more drugs but its just that they a lot more peaceful and friendly than the typical guvernment crowd ....

Posted by Jayx1 on Dec-07-2005 03:54:

CAPTAIN OBVIOUS SAYS:

Most of you guys just missed the entire point of this whole thread.

Posted by Beach420 on Dec-07-2005 04:06:

quote:
Originally posted by shanny
I don't think Pett was trying to make Tiesto seem bad, his point is that it is wrong to start censoring people or possibly not let them into Canada, ala what is happening with Fifty Cent right now.

I feel the same way, it is wrong to start stopping people from entering the country because of what they say in their music, whether it be hip hop or edm.
It sets a dangerous precident.

well said my friend!

Posted by DigiNut on Dec-07-2005 04:07:

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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
Last time I checked, E was always illegal (well, except for the brief period of time when it was first invented)

Not *entirely* true actually... I see your point - however, the period between invention and criminalization was anything but brief.

It's just that alcohol has been ingrained into society since the beginning of time, where MDMA only had something like 10 or 15 years I think... "brief" by comparison but by no means insignificant.

I'm not one to support drug use either; I'm actually rather disgusted by the way so many people deny their dependence on ecstasy and actually seem to take pride in their habit. The fact remains, though, that the "war on drugs" has brainwashed a lot of people but is still a load of crap, and criminalization really does not stop drug use. All it does is (a) create a black market that enables criminals to profit off the drugs and (b) cost enormous amounts of taxpayer money paying for police to enforce the laws and prisons to hold the ones that are caught. It's a colossal waste of resources to "protect people from themselves", which as we all know is just an excuse to curtail people's rights and freedoms.

And yes, I realize that this doesn't have to do with the original topic, but so what, it went off-topic.

Posted by cyper on Dec-07-2005 04:26:

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Originally posted by DigiNut
Not *entirely* true actually... I see your point - however, the period between invention and criminalization was anything but brief.

It's just that alcohol has been ingrained into society since the beginning of time, where MDMA only had something like 10 or 15 years I think... "brief" by comparison but by no means insignificant.

I'm not one to support drug use either; I'm actually rather disgusted by the way so many people deny their dependence on ecstasy and actually seem to take pride in their habit. The fact remains, though, that the "war on drugs" has brainwashed a lot of people but is still a load of crap, and criminalization really does not stop drug use. All it does is (a) create a black market that enables criminals to profit off the drugs and (b) cost enormous amounts of taxpayer money paying for police to enforce the laws and prisons to hold the ones that are caught. It's a colossal waste of resources to "protect people from themselves", which as we all know is just an excuse to curtail people's rights and freedoms.

And yes, I realize that this doesn't have to do with the original topic, but so what, it went off-topic.

Well I finally agree with you.
But if you dislike drug users, then you better dislike smokers & alcohol drinkers as well (since both are as addictive and dangers as most regular drugs).

It has just become more accepted(and legal) in our culture to smoke and drink. But its still the same principle.

Posted by Cosmic Fur on Dec-07-2005 04:34:

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Originally posted by DigiNut
Not *entirely* true actually... I see your point - however, the period between invention and criminalization was anything but brief.

You just have to correct everyone, don't you? I remember reading that stuff about MDMA being used as a psychology drug at first a long time ago, I just didn't want to dig the info back up all over again.

And fully agree with your second half of the statement. Decriminalize drugs, and Darwin wins.

Posted by DigiNut on Dec-07-2005 04:43:

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Originally posted by cyper
Well I finally agree with you.
But if you dislike drug users, then you better dislike smokers & alcohol drinkers as well (since both are as addictive and dangers as most regular drugs).

It has just become more accepted(and legal) in our culture to smoke and drink. But its still the same principle.

I'd narrow down "alcohol drinkers" to "alcoholics", since not everyone who drinks is a substance abuser.

I don't dislike drug users either, I've just observed from experience that many of them don't understand the very real difference between "recreational" use and "habitual/dependent" use. Addiction always begins with denial.

Posted by Pett on Dec-07-2005 05:37:

Posted by shanny on Dec-07-2005 18:57:

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Originally posted by Pettiscool
thx man, sometimes people read n post before they even read it properly!

I know how hard it is to read, it takes a lot of practice!

Besides I always got your back bro!

Posted by dc ajaxs on Dec-07-2005 19:20:

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Originally posted by Skipper
1. In what track does Tiesto promote drug use?
2. Many tracks that DO reference drug use are produced by producers, in studios - and never performed live. The only one I can think where the person who created a track that referenced drug use explictly and has performed it live is Green Velvet.

wasn't a tiesto track that came to mind but what about

Tomcraft- Overdose

love the track though

Posted by Jem_hadar on Dec-07-2005 19:23:

everyone love a good petty thread. i sure do.

Posted by LucasMead on Dec-07-2005 20:29:

Theres drugs in the electronical music scene??? never knew that! I've only scene alcohol and cigs and one time i saw a crazy dude smoking weeds or something

Posted by LucasMead on Dec-07-2005 20:32:

Theres drugs in the electronical music scene??? never knew that! I've only scene alcohol and cigs and one time i saw a crazy dude smoking weeds or something.

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