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keyboard/piano,drums


and the turntables (well they are a musical instrument)



i tryed classical NEVER AGAIN!!!!!!NEVER (so anoying)



cant remember my grade for keyboard/piano i will have to go though my paper work.i think it was around 7/8 not to sure could have been higher.im not one for remembering grades i cant even remember my GCSE's at all.

drums learnt them all by my self LOL! (come on if you can play the piano you can play the drums its not that hard)all you need is a sence of timing plus creativity.

i do know i got a crap grade in english lol (oh sh*t i am english how did i get a crap grade LOL!!!!!!!!)

my self grade 2 piano and just started learning saxophone... i heard playing classical is good to improve your harmonical hearing and feeling.. my self grade 2 piano and just started learning saxophone...

been musically involved most of my life...
10 years of classical violin (grade 10)
6 years of jazz trombone,
3 years of guitar

oh, I can play a recorder! I remember learning to play it, but I suddenly forgot how to play it.

I mostly played Catholic Church choons on it. I played 3 years of the recorder lol.

i almost learned to play the flute (or some version of it) at school when i was 10 or something but i didnt really like it so i gave up. i forgot everything but the major scale lol. i was learning the drums for a few moths when i was 15 but i got bored of it really fast too. then after i starded producing i wanted to get a keyboard which i finaly did and now i have 2 and im to learing. im also gonna take lessons after christmas.... i hope.

I'm pretty sure there was a thread about this around a month ago... I'll say what I said before:

Instrumental (or vocal) skills aren't critical to music production, but many people including myself will tell you that it's not hard to spot the difference between music produced by musicians and music produced by computer geeks. Not that one can't be both of those things, but with the latter I'm referring specifically to those with no musical training.

Listening to music is a bit like reading a book. When you read a book you can often tell whether or not the author likes people. Sure, all authors know what they like and know what they want to write about, but a "people person" tends to pay more attention to the little things, to the subtleties, to dynamic and 3-dimensional characters. Likewise, producers who are also musicians tend to use a much wider dynamic range, develop more complex harmonies and progressions, and create more interesting and less repetitive tunes in general.

Ironically, the people who most often can't seem to tell the difference are the producers with no musical training. Ordinary Joes without musical background can tell, and musicians with or without production background can tell, but the "technical" producers often don't see why or where a track should have more variety or dynamics.

Of course this is all just my opinion and I'm sure there are some notable, well-known exceptions, and I'm sure many will disagree. That just happens to be my perspective and it seems to get reinforced fairly often.

I don't know the music theory...but i've played the trumpet for 6 years now and just recently have I quit and sold my trumpet

I can read music, but I have absolutly no clue what the note letters/names are. Like if the teacher asked me what the name of the note was I'd be like "omgwtf". I'd just know how to play the notes based on where they were on the scale.

Nope. Can't ;D

Weel, I can play a tad little guitar and piano, but not much at all so it doesn't count.

wow, I cant believe how many of you don't play any instrument. How do make chord progresions and melodies?? a matrix editor?? I've been playing guitar off and on for a long time and have been playing it consistantly for about 3-4 years now, mainly lead guitar type stuff(blues/rock/metal). I think Im gonna learn how to use a slide real soon. I also took a piano class that I dropped out of because I kept playing all the songs with a jazzy kinda feel, the teacher liked it but said it wasn't the way the songs were ment to be played, and I also took an "electronic music" course where all we did was input notation the whole semster

I just bought "...voice leading" by Aldwell for 4 dollars used so I plan on learning some more theory from that. Oh, and for some reason I have been wanting to learn jazz flute lately, I guess I need to quit listening to dungen's " Solen stiger upp" and jethro tull, haha..

so yeah, thats my musical experience in a nut shell

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Originally posted by Since Forever wow, I cant believe how many of you don't play any instrument. How do make chord progresions and melodies?? a matrix editor?? I've been playing guitar off and on for a long time and have been playing it consistantly for about 3-4 years now, mainly lead guitar type stuff(blues/rock/metal). I think Im gonna learn how to use a slide real soon. I also took a piano class that I dropped out of because I kept playing all the songs with a jazzy kinda feel, the teacher liked it but said it wasn't the way the songs were ment to be played, and I also took an "electronic music" course where all we did was input notation the whole semster I just bought "...voice leading" by Aldwell for 4 dollars used so I plan on learning some more theory from that. Oh, and for some reason I have been wanting to learn jazz flute lately, I guess I need to quit listening to dungen's " Solen stiger upp" and jethro tull, haha.. so yeah, thats my musical experience in a nut shell

you don't need to play an instrument to be able to understand how music works. It helps but it isn't essential. And that book you bought is awesome.

i started playing guitar this year. wanted to start like 10 years ago, but never got around to it. better late than never!

How many classical musicians do you know that can produce a trance track on a computer ???

you don't really need to learn how to play any instrument, the computer plays it for you....the real skill is making everything fit together and sounding right.

the computer is really a new age type of instrument and this is a trance forum which is music created by computer musicians who play the computer

it's about time we humans created a new instrument for the future.

only an idiot would rely souly on a computer. therefore your reply even if you use a computer it just merely plays it out for you, you still arrange, construct and build the music. and to answer your question i've known many people who know classical music or jazz or funk who make the sickest house and trance

music theory is not nearly enough if you don't know chords and octaves and all that. i personally can play bass like no one's business. guitar, sax and drumms i picked up in 4 years of high school concert band that was reknowned throughout the city and played major events.

as my MIDI prof said. instead of sitting there making loops that you think sound good, go spend some money on a piano lesson and actually learn some music.

you cannot really play trance music on a conventional musicical instrument (apart from some of the uplifting dreamy breaks). You need a new-age musical instrument for that...aka computer/synth/drum machine.

making/playing with loops is fun and the result is very rewarding, just as much rewarding as playing a piano piece solo and live.

as much as I like listening to a good solo piano piece (live or pre-recorded) I also like listening to music constructed by skillful placement of loops and effects....aka Trance/House/Dance

I didn't mean that you guys suck cause you dont play an instrument or anything like that...I was just wondering how you were going about getting the notes into the sequencer. For intance I improvise over the song with my keyboard and then go back and slice up the midi and add in notes to add to the general idea, but I wouldn't really consider myself a piano player yet.

On a different note, anyone that plays an instrument with any sort of fluency knows that there is a certain connection with the notes and the instrument that just can't be had by cutting up loops. Don't get me wrong, it is very satisfying to make music either way, but there seems to be another demension to the whole thing while playing the music in real time.

I have a hard time imagining the computer as an instrument, there needs to be some sort of an interface for you to play it in real time, but then you would be playing whatever it was you connected to the computer. and then come instances like this that seem to blow that whole theory away, this would be impossible with guitar alone, its like he is playing some sort of "guiputer"

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Originally posted by Bedlam-UK you cannot really play trance music on a conventional musicical instrument (apart from some of the uplifting dreamy breaks). You need a new-age musical instrument for that...aka computer/synth/drum machine. making/playing with loops is fun and the result is very rewarding, just as much rewarding as playing a piano piece solo and live. as much as I like listening to a good solo piano piece (live or pre-recorded) I also like listening to music constructed by skillful placement of loops and effects....aka Trance/House/Dance

not all of it is made with loops, first of all, and second of all whoever can play the piano, and well i might add, knows chord progression and such. therefore, he might not perhaps be able to make your precious drum loop, but can make a flowing or rhythmic bass line, pads, keys, synth leads and etc.

a jazz musician who knows grooves and flow really well can make the funkiest and groovy beautiful house that'll be deep and soulful.

etc.

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Originally posted by Bedlam-UK How many classical musicians do you know that can produce a trance track on a computer ??? you don't really need to learn how to play any instrument, the computer plays it for you....the real skill is making everything fit together and sounding right.

thats why it sucks mate... you know trance doesnt have to have the same simple melody for 10 minutes to be trance.

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Originally posted by Bedlam-UK How many classical musicians do you know that can produce a trance track on a computer ???

that is irrelevent. Having any music experience will make you a better musician. Being a better musician will make you a better producer.

how many trance producers can make classical music ?

I can whistle if that counts as an instrument.

Ive covered some great choons with it.Like happy birthday,christmas carols,im pretty good with it.Doesnt help me with making trance though.

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Originally posted by DigiNut Instrumental (or vocal) skills aren't critical to music production, but many people including myself will tell you that it's not hard to spot the difference between music produced by musicians and music produced by computer geeks. Not that one can't be both of those things, but with the latter I'm referring specifically to those with no musical training. Listening to music is a bit like reading a book. When you read a book you can often tell whether or not the author likes people. Sure, all authors know what they like and know what they want to write about, but a "people person" tends to pay more attention to the little things, to the subtleties, to dynamic and 3-dimensional characters. Likewise, producers who are also musicians tend to use a much wider dynamic range, develop more complex harmonies and progressions, and create more interesting and less repetitive tunes in general. Ironically, the people who most often can't seem to tell the difference are the producers with no musical training. Ordinary Joes without musical background can tell, and musicians with or without production background can tell, but the "technical" producers often don't see why or where a track should have more variety or dynamics.

i completely agree... huge difference between artist w/ musical training and those without. of course everyone also has their own opinion on what sounds good.

either way... i've got 10 years of piano 7 years of string bass and currently studying music tech. at nyu. for me, melodies are always key, i don't like that repetitive bs...

trance is machine music and mostly synth/drum/effects IMO....whatever you create your music with IS your instrument.

I use/play the piano for creating melodies to be played back through a synth.

Only reason I would need to be a professional piano player would be to read score sheets and play other peoples music. But I don't, because I write and play my own music...my way.

BTW...I've been looking for a midi whistle....

not wishing to sound an ignorant fool, to some of the readers here who may mis-understand my posts. Here is very interesting and educational website:

Berklee Shares Downloads

Knowing how to play a musical instrument and knowing how to compose music are 2 completely different things and involve different skills. Therefore you don't need to know how to play an instrument to write great melodies. All you need is composition training

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