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Originally posted by Rockabye ISOS 4 is a huge disappointement for all people who know ISOS 1-3. ISOS 1-3 were classics with OK mixing and fantastic tracks. The mixing of ISOS 4 is terrible and I don't understand why Tiesto didn't mix the cds for a second or third time until they sound better. I couldn't imagine Tiesto is pleased with his work? There are some really good tracks on ISOS 4 but because Tiesto choosed to mixed 2 CDs we have too many average ones. It would be better if he stuck to one cd with 14-15 tracks which are mixed well. Oh...yeah...we had so many ISOS 4 threads maybe you should just use the search function next time...

Yeah I agree, esp lately as i've been listening to his first three ISOS CDs and then listening to the 4 and think "wtf?". I mean it has some really great tunes, heck some of the ones in ISOS 4 are among my favorites of 2005, however he really should have either made it one good CD, or redid the mix. He could have even used ableton or something to mix at least one of the CDs and use TTs or CDJs or whatever he was using for the other one, kind of like James Zambiela did. I'de rather have just one well mixed CD that flows, then two really crappy mixed CDs. The first CD had better mixing and flow to it than the second, i'll give that to him. I loved how the first three flowed pretty smooth, even though they had a few rough spots mixing wise. I don't know what happened on ISOS 4...but at least it's better mixed than the GOD AWFUL cd "DJ In the Mix" by ATB, now that is one pathetically mixed CD. Makes ISOS 4 sound like Involver.

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Originally posted by humilis About the release: good tracks..and.. Tiesto has done something very special as a trance DJ! He has found house, progressive house and techno ...

He's played across the board completely since he first made the shift from Hardcore way back when. That he is well known for the trance period 99-00 when he made it big... is his own shortcoming. To be constantly associated with a genre only 1/3rd of his sound.

Oh well. Serves him right for making stupid remarks in interviews in 2000 about how he would never change his style from 'uplifting trance' despite its unpopularity.

The following year? What do you know! He's gone progressive trance.

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Originally posted by ThaMaestro Just leave MichaelBoogerd!. All the time he is (for good reason) really pissed at stupid people who like tiesto. all he likes is pissing on tiesto's clueless fanbase, which most definitely includes pissing on people who like things which are tiesto-related but can't express themselves clearly enough ... its a bit childish i think. guess he cant help it

Correction!



and ROFL. You think i have a problem with Tiesto
The only problem I have with Tiesto is i've spent every penny i've earned since 2001 on going to see this guy more times than you've asked for his fcuking liveset. And believe me that means a freaking LOT.

You think i'm trolling Tiesto topics?
At least i'm contributing something other than the clueless "who can share me this set" post.

Perhaps you could think about it for longer than 5 minutes before flaming a reply in my direction. For 4 years ive lived breathed and worked damn hard to tracklist & attend as many Tiesto gigs as i can.

The only problem I have is when people like you and the topic starter here make silly errors when they "try" to support/defend the artist in question. Its bad enough he gets flamed to death on here. Without you guys supplying the ammunition to his haters by stupidity.

Good example - directly above this rant. Some guy perfectly explaining how Tijs has shifted to play both house and techno OMFG RLY? O JA RLY... What has he been playing since 1995? Uplifting trance.
Jeez.

Your reaction on the duplex set had me freaking in stitches laughing over here. Why? Cos you have no CLUE what Tiesto is about if you think that that set is a flash in a pan or a complete NEW style.

He's been playing like that most of his career FFS.

Clueless posts like that lead to this kind of response when you and your fellow second generation fans don't think first.

Maybe that explains better my original comment in tracklistings, along with why you'll find me in tiesto topics around the forums... its certainly not to rip on Tiesto. Idiot.

Some good tracks, overall pretty boring.

its one of my top CDs for the year. The Twelve remix is hott. It will remain a favorite for a long time.

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Originally posted by ClubGoddess its one of my top CDs for the year.

I think you've listened to the wrong CDs this year

i like ISOS 4, i didnt like it the first time i listened to it, coz the music was different and wasnt expected to be like that, but after listening to it few times more i actually started to enjoy it.

Tiesto makes too many different kind of styles, and i mean too many, they are all trance but they dont sound the same, and i think that tiesto does that because he tries to reach all kind of listeners and not just tiesto lovers, ive known some ppl that are not into the trance scene but they adore tracks produced by tiesto and only tiesto, and i never understood how he does that

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Originally posted by Rockabye I think you've listened to the wrong CDs this year

lol no silly and LOL @ ur avatar

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Originally posted by ArcticBeach its clearly (if you can read that is) that his not saying with tiesto as you mention usually you say that etc on the radio : that were Stronger with Britney Spears etc

I can read, but your post is unintelligable.

Y'wanna know why MichaelBoogerd! got up in a tizzy about that tracklist? It really does imply that Tiesto produced a track with whomever is listed.

And I've never heard the construction you give on the radio. Ever. What I have heard is, "That was Britney Spears with Stronger."

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Originally posted by thoughtlessjex I can read, but your post is unintelligable. Y'wanna know why MichaelBoogerd! got up in a tizzy about that tracklist? It really does imply that Tiesto produced a track with whomever is listed. And I've never heard the construction you give on the radio. Ever. What I have heard is, "That was Britney Spears with Stronger."

hurrah... finally someone with common sense

ISOS 1 & 2 are brilliant
ISOS 3 & 4 are shit

Why do u think Tiesto put the Magik series to rest? because trance today is junk and he cant find tunes good enough for it...so he rested them instead of tarnishing the Magik series....i guess he figured he already fouled up ISOS with number 3 so why not make another CD of the ISOS series with crappy tunes....like he did. Even he knows the Magik is gone.

ISOS 4 could be a lot better if Tiesto would have only mixed 1 cd with 15 tracks or so and took the mixing a bit more serios...

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Originally posted by Rockabye ISOS 4 could be a lot better if Tiesto would have only mixed 1 cd with 15 tracks or so and took the mixing a bit more serios...

agreed..

this CD would have had loads of potential, as there were alot of enjoyable tunes on it, too bad there were too many tunes that simply werent any good..

its collecting dust at my house after about 5 listens..

The first 5 tracks or so on CD1 are brilliant. The mood really sets in and things flow really nicely. I wish he kept that feeling throughout, but not a bad mix in the end.

I think isos 4 is good, but the others are better and the mix is much better...
and imo, 2005:
asot2005 > isos 4 > tpod2...

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Originally posted by Rockabye ISOS 4 could be a lot better if Tiesto would have only mixed 1 cd with 15 tracks or so and took the mixing a bit more serios...

word up. some good tunes here and there, but overall a lazy and hastily slapped-together comp.

isos 1 prob. has the best tunes of the series, but it stops there and doesn't fully deliver on building the atmosphere it promises. isos 3, and especially 2, are wonderfully ordered and programmed.

unless tijs can pare things down to a single cd of singular quality, isos should join the magik series in the retirement home.

he is capable of good mixing, why he doesn't do it, i don't know...

i think he intentionally likes to mix in a way, that is obvious that he is mixing in a track. sometimes what he does works EXCELLENTLY (hard to tell when one track ends, and the other finishes), other times, it comes off horrible.

Favourite tracks:
13. Loves We Lost, The - (with Allure)
14. Perfect Silene - (E-Craig's 212 remix, with Blank & Jones)
love the way their mixed, too^

Moments - (with Tone Depth/Soultan)

Only One - (Rave mix, with Sensorica/Jin Key)

Gravity - (with P.O.S.)

other great tracks:

Do What U Want - (Max Graham Afterhours in Montreal mix, with JASEfos/Claire Van Der Boom)

Palma Solane - (with Estuera/Re:Locate

Gravity 10 - (with Grayarea/Erik Shepard)

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Originally posted by Konijn word up. some good tunes here and there, but overall a lazy and hastily slapped-together comp. isos 1 prob. has the best tunes of the series, but it stops there and doesn't fully deliver on building the atmosphere it promises. isos 3, and especially 2, are wonderfully ordered and programmed. unless tijs can pare things down to a single cd of singular quality, isos should join the magik series in the retirement home.

As found on the tiesto.hu website - in his interview from February, a month or so from the recording of this cd comp. he expressed his intentions of an upcoming Nyana 2...

Pretty weird they decided to make it an ISOS in the end then.

Firmly think thats a marketing decision from his management team - not from Tijs. He was all set to continue the Nyana series - whereby none of his other mix cd series get tarnished... even if he royally fcuks it up.

On another note - really strange the timing of the compilation too. The first two ISOS were released after Ibiza season when he was already in that "summery" mood and happy with the tracks.
Maybe that wasnt the case on Panama (May 2002), but he still found a pretty nice order (for the first 6-7 tunes)...

If they'd have waited till the end of this season in Ibiza... the ISOS he could put out now would be freaking quality. All that housey shit he is now spinning and BETTER mcprog/slow trance sounds instead of what he had to be content with using in Spring 05.

I think the decision to make 2 CDs also came from record company because you can better sale albums with 2 CDs than with one...

There are often differnet interests of the record company and the dj / producer but in the end the company mostly makes the last decision

if you guys were able to ask tiesto a question about whatever you guys keep wondering with what he's doing with the music lately, what would the question be ?

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Originally posted by x_moe if you guys were able to ask tiesto a question about whatever you guys keep wondering with what he's doing with the music lately, what would the question be ?

are you satisfied with your mixing @ ISOS 4?

Ok, this is why I was disappointed with ISOS4:

1) Previous ISOS albums all started off so dreamy, ambient, and just something that I think really helped set the mood for the entire album. And that was what I was used to.

And what did ISOS4 start with? Like A Waterfall. ugh. granted, the song is all right - it shouldn't be used to start an ISOS album. Palma Solane i think was a better choice....but still a little too upbeat/"fast" for what normally started off the series.

2) The endings of all ISOS albums were EXPLOSIVE. Prime example: Airtight. I mean, this track is LOUD and ends on a final solid note. All the series ended on a solid one final note. It was a complete conclusion. a true real finale.

and what did ISOS4 end with? Only One [Rave Mix]. ugh. hardly explosive and it fucking fades out at the end!!!! WTF?! Why does a mix CD fade out!? this is something that happens on live albums [i.e. Universal Regligion 2004, etc...]. VERY disappointing.

3) Mixing. previous series were mixed a lot better. with ISOS4, it's not that the beats don't match up - or that you can hear double basslines overlapping horribly....but the mixing is done abruptly. the tracks change i think too fast. i.e tracks 1 to 2 on disc 2. wow.

Previous series were mixed a lot more smoother - and there were longer transitions between tracks. on ISOS2, going from track 13 to 14 , you can hear Airtight like 45 seconds before it even comes around. it's faint - but it builds up to when the track comes in full force. i just think that's amazing.

4) Overall tracks. this did not need to be a 2x CD. honestly, the best 14 or 15 tracks should have been combined into one - and have less "fluff" in between. And i personally hate thank Junkie XL remix of UR. ugh. awful.

Things I liked about ISOS4:

1) Palma Solane. granted, it's not the best starting track, it's still amazing. this i think could have been an amazing ending. one of my fav tracks.

2) Perfect Silence. here we go - this is how an ISOS series should end. fantastic ending. one of my favorite tracks of all time.

3) other tracks: Arcadia, The Loves we Lost, La Noche, Why, Bad [although perhaps not appropriate for an ISOS feel], Netherworld, and Sands of Time & Evolution. But really, these tracks should have just been on ONE album, and not spread about two.

This is just what i think. maybe faster and abrubter mixing is preferred by others. maybe people like the more upbeat feel and the more aggressive intros. but to me, it just doesn't really seem like a TRUE ISOS album.

You are damn right Tubularbills.


The main problem of ISOS 4 is that it is compared to 1-3. They should gave it a different name.

ISOS 1-3 had such great moods and really were a dreamy journey through beautiful sounds.

They had a feeling of chilling at a sunny beach.


There are too many tracks in ISOS 4 that doesn't cover this mood and doesn't wake this feelings.

I couldn't "dive" into the music like I could in ISOS 1-3 because of the transitions. They are too short and not smooth enough. And of course that there are many beat-matching errors doesn't make it better

overall shit cd i thought...very boring...i liked grayarea - gravity though

I enjoyed both CDS, maybe I should give it a re-listen maybe. But from what I can remember, I wasn't disappointed.

I've also enjoyed his other ISOS complications too.

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