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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur The words, "iRiver excepted" mean nothing to you, huh?

ooooooooops, i read it too fast

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Originally posted by malek ooooooooops, i read it too fast

haha. Dun worry about it. I miss words sometimes too.

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Originally posted by DJ_Elyot IMO I-Pods suck - The sound quality isn't as good as what else is out there, the battery life sucks, and it's a waste of money comparatively. AND they're just a stupid fad. Apple's very good at marketing crappy products by making them look pretty and seem cool. They're not.

The sound quality is fine unless you've got ears like a fennec fox. The battery life is perfectly fine, I don't know why people bitch about this. Do fads last 4 years and counting? No. Is the iPod a crappy product? Fuck no.

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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur I was in the same boat like 2 days ago, lol. I decided to go with a Toshiba Gigabeat F10. 10 gigs, and you can find them being sold online for like $220. Bestbuy.ca just had a deal where you could have grabbed one for 250 (not sure if they still have some in stock - 2 left on Saturday). Screw paying almost 400 for an iPod.

$220 for 10GB or $379 for 30GB. HUGE HUGE HUGE difference in capacity here dude.

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Originally posted by dEsidEL i just hate iTunes get an mp3 player like 99% of the other players out there that don't require the use of iTunes or some 3rd party software to get around it

In the 4 years I've owned iPods, not once have I used iTunes to transfer the songs. EphPod is vastly superior and free. What's the difference between using superior 3rd party software to something like Musicmatch Jukebox or any other horseshit proprietary software that a manufacturer bundles with their product?

The only problem I've got with the competing products is not that they're shoddy products, it's that almost every one of them has a vastly inferior user interface compared to the iPod's silky smooth navigational sex.

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Originally posted by VERTiG0 iPod's silky smooth navigational sex.

Gotta love it!

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Originally posted by VERTiG0 $220 for 10GB or $379 for 30GB. HUGE HUGE HUGE difference in capacity here dude.

I've thought about this, and 10 gigs of music is enough for me to have at one time. True, I won't be able to store my whole music collection on it, but it's enough that i don't have to connect it up to my PC to change songs every week.

But yes, they're hot as fuck. IMO, iPod focuses more on the eye-candy and UI where the other players focus more on features. At least price-relative.

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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur I've thought about this, and 10 gigs of music is enough for me to have at one time. True, I won't be able to store my whole music collection on it, but it's enough that i don't have to connect it up to my PC to change songs every week. But yes, they're hot as fuck. IMO, iPod focuses more on the eye-candy and UI where the other players focus more on features. At least price-relative.

I've got about 11GB of my 3rd-gen 15GB iPod filled up, I think 15-20 will be my sweet spot.

Oh yeah, the 20GB Gigabeat is just as much as a 30GB iPod Video. Hmmmm!

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Originally posted by VERTiG0 The sound quality is fine unless you've got ears like a fennec fox. The battery life is perfectly fine, I don't know why people bitch about this. Do fads last 4 years and counting? No. Is the iPod a crappy product? Fuck no. $220 for 10GB or $379 for 30GB. HUGE HUGE HUGE difference in capacity here dude. In the 4 years I've owned iPods, not once have I used iTunes to transfer the songs. EphPod is vastly superior and free. What's the difference between using superior 3rd party software to something like Musicmatch Jukebox or any other horseshit proprietary software that a manufacturer bundles with their product? The only problem I've got with the competing products is not that they're shoddy products, it's that almost every one of them has a vastly inferior user interface compared to the iPod's silky smooth navigational sex.

FEEL THE POWER OF CALE'S WORDS.

This man is spot on (though I enjoy iTunes over EphPod... but I'll not quibble w/ him over that). I love the points, the intensity. SUPPORT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I VOTE for Cale to be the offical iPod spokesman!!!

-Jem-

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Originally posted by Blu3z I had two or three of them in the past and they were too slow for my tastes.

Slow in what way?

The older models sure, but the new one should be fine with it's USB2.0

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r Slow in what way? The older models sure, but the new one should be fine with it's USB2.0

slow changing songs and a bitch to change things like the volume and whatnot.

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Originally posted by Blu3z slow changing songs and a bitch to change things like the volume and whatnot.

Hmmm...can't be using the same models as me then.
I certainly don't have those problems and mine's over 1.5yrs old!

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Originally posted by VERTiG0 Oh yeah, the 20GB Gigabeat is just as much as a 30GB iPod Video. Hmmmm!

Normally the Gigabeat IS overpriced - the F10 is normally fetching for over 300.

So I guess the lesson here is too look out for the deals, and check craigslist often.

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Originally posted by malek +1 It should never be more complicated than hooking it to a USB connector and copying files like a normal drive. so I suggest the iRivers, solid, above average quality, excellent prices.

+1

iRiver is great . (except some of the new stuff lacks some features of before)


I LOVE MY I AUDIO x5.


supports many type of files, fm tuner, recorder, PLAYS VIDEO, usbtog, its recognized as a usb mass storage device. No need for ANY other software to run it. Plug it in and go about your business. The user interface is great too.

I got the 20gig version with a bigger battery. gets up to 25 hrs of audio playback and something like 12ish video iirc. The sound quality is better then an Ipod, at least in my experience. yes it was noticable.

Its awesome. I dislike IPODS. I dont like the stupid scroll wheel thingy, too many issues with them too, STUPID ITUNES, its a fad to own one.(and yeah its a fad to hate it to , but I have legitamate reasons)

So I went with somehting else, and I am very happy with what I got.

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Originally posted by VERTiG0 Get an iPod. Seriously, you'll love it.

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Originally posted by Euphorica +1 iRiver is great . (except some of the new stuff lacks some features of before) I LOVE MY I AUDIO x5. supports many type of files, fm tuner, recorder, PLAYS VIDEO, usbtog, its recognized as a usb mass storage device. No need for ANY other software to run it. Plug it in and go about your business. The user interface is great too. I got the 20gig version with a bigger battery. gets up to 25 hrs of audio playback and something like 12ish video iirc. The sound quality is better then an Ipod, at least in my experience. yes it was noticable. Its awesome. I dislike IPODS. I dont like the stupid scroll wheel thingy, too many issues with them too, STUPID ITUNES, its a fad to own one.(and yeah its a fad to hate it to , but I have legitamate reasons) So I went with somehting else, and I am very happy with what I got.

Just the type of review I was looking for. Where di you get yours and how much was it?

In september I bought a referbished 4th gen 20gig iPod, and have had no real problems with it. I payed $250 from Canada computers. As far as sound quality, only the headphones that come with it suck (i blew one of the speakers the first day).

As far as iTunes, you don't have to use it, there are other programs that have plug-ins that allow you to sync music using them. WinAmp for sure has one.

I personally really like my iPod. Tons of space, easy to sort and play music, and my battery life it great. I know there are a ton of other great MP3 players out there, iRiver is really good for example, but the only reason I bought my iPod is because there are so many accessories for them. Good luck finding a leather case, sound-dock or in-car connection for an MP3 player other than an iPod; chances are it's going to take you way longer.

I use mine everyday, to and from school, and also as a removable hard-drive for school work. Never once has it failed or done me wrong.

Sorry for anybody that has had bad experiances with theirs.

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Originally posted by iLiptikalOrbitZ Good luck finding a leather case, sound-dock or in-car connection for an MP3 player other than an iPod; chances are it's going to take you way longer. Sorry for anybody that has had bad experiances with theirs.

many people have had issues.Enough to make me look elsewhere.

sound docks are ghey. leather case is availible for almost any player out there... same for in car connections. you can get them at best buy...or better yet, most/if not all aftermarket decks these days have auxilary inputs, so you dont even need to spend too much on some brand name hook up. a simple male audio- rca or male audio- male audio cable can be used. (Even some oem decks have inputs)

FADS DO NOT LAST THIS LONG FYI

can someone explain to me how iTunes works?

i can only use iTunes to transfer stuff onto iPod?

what about the iPod video? i can only use iTunes to transfer stuff?

what about stuff that is downloaded from a different source like soulseek or torrent? can i still get that stuff onto the iPod? or only stuff downloaded via iTunes and paid for via iTunes?

You can get anything onto an iPod.

iTunes automatically syncs with it so that when you plug it in it automatically transfers the files for you. (You can override this with a manual transfer.)

When you add the file you want to iTunes it automatically becomes part of the library you can transfer onto your iPod. (There are other applications that sync with iPods - WinAmp being one of them.)

With iTunes you can make Playlists though, which are damn handy for not having to scroll through 30 gb of music for 1 tune.

iTunes is also a media player, btw.

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Originally posted by VERTiG0 FADS DO NOT LAST THIS LONG FYI

Yes they do, look at commercial rap.

I was going to get an i-pod video until I heard that not only did it only play certain types of videos but that even if you converted it to the proper type that there's a chance that it won't work.

Get the Motorola m500 Digital audio player... 5.0Gigs with an Fm tuner and recorder and an 8 band equalizer... Although they were discontinued due to a conflict of interest with their business partner: Apple...

But if you can find em... definately worth EVERY PENNY

So iriver vs. iaudio is what it seams to have come down to, can someone sell me to either side or a specific model around $300 that is the best bang for my buck as far as sound quality and everything else goes?

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Originally posted by dEsidEL i just hate iTunes

I use Anapod w/ my iPod. Anapod works great, syncs on detect of iPod, allows for data to be stored on the iPod in addition to music, allows for SQL based database of songs (read: amazing playlist generation ability), Anapod is only 1 MB in size and franky provides far better use and abuse of the iPod than any other iPod software I've tried.

http://www.redchairsoftware.com/anapod/

but doesn't the iPod automatically someone install and run iTunes?

that was my experience using someone elses iPod.

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Originally posted by StereoPrincess but doesn't the iPod automatically someone install and run iTunes? that was my experience using someone elses iPod.

1) One must install the iPod software on purchase to format the device and update it with the latest firmware.

2) IMO - iTunes should be installed and checked once in a blue moon to ensure that there are no device updates for the iPod.

3) One can stop iTunes from loading on boot and auto-recognizing/loading upon iPod detect.

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