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Posted by j@y on Dec-14-2005 21:32:

you forget the most important thing....the sound system

you might buy the nicest equipment on earth but it will never sound good with a shitty sound system

mixing with a nice sound system makes all the difference

and thats the only thing that you are 100% sure to always use till it breaks

after that i would say to put a big part of what you are spending on the mixer

its nice to have expensive decks or cd'Js but if you have a vrappy mixer it shitty

beeing confortable on a mixer is a big factor on whay your mix is gonna sound like


my advice for you would be to be careful and really think about it...ive spent alor on dj equipment and i hardly ever use it nowedays cuz i dont listen to edm anymore...


Posted by ~*Stereohead*~ on Dec-14-2005 21:32:

Re: re:

quote:
Originally posted by Ravemontreal
Well it's really just MY personal taste. Many will say I'm out of date and the futur is on final scratch or making loops with Ableton and remixing live....

It's all good if you are having fun. With Turntables and my Peavey Grabber (Cycloop) i'm having a lot of fun, and have an extra creative bonus with the looping.

Personnaly, i'm a physical DJ, I live it pretty intensively on a physical level. Having the records behind me and scrolling trough them, take out and put back the record, is part of the energy I must let go while i'm playing.

Putting them in my bag and sort them out before I go play is also part of my mental warm up....

I will only switch if I must too. Either because turntables will be gone, or if new tools are SO creative that it allows me to create on an higher level. CDJs, for the moment, don't compensate. And playing with midi knobs don't cut for me, don't feel it.

At one point, it's all about what's in your guts, and what's the best way to express it.


I totally know what u mean by it's all about what's in your guts...having fun is a basis for creating and mixing good music and that leads to a higher level of concentration and focus on your music.

I've heard you spin a few times; I've seen you get into your mix; I've seen you really feel the music, u know? I can't wait to have that, finally!!! All the preparation and arrangement beforehand would give me a total rush also when I think about it.


Posted by Dj Nacht on Dec-14-2005 22:00:

Honestly if you have money go for TT's cause they are amazing and nobody will call you noobie. If you can't afford those vinyls buy the Pioneer CDJ's and if you wanna try something new then use Ableton Live and do like Sasha. Right now im gonna be buying a laptop with Ableton Live and then I will need a nice M-Audio Sound Card and M-Audio Studio Monitors. I started with 2 technics 1200's and a behringher Mixer + Sony700 headphones and sold everything cause I wasnt into it anymore. Now im even more serious then before so im gonna be making some bigger investments but you gotta make sure its not just a phase.


Posted by F�anor on Dec-14-2005 22:03:

I love Serato Scratch Live, but that's probably over your money. unless you already have a computer AND you don't mind not having Technics.


Posted by foxyroxy on Dec-14-2005 22:43:

Yah you could just go digital...

And steal music like so many others do...

But it isnt real...

Get some 1200's....GO BUY RECORDS!!!

Vinyl is still the best...

You'll feel it much more if you do it the real way...


Posted by F�anor on Dec-15-2005 13:40:

quote:
Originally posted by foxyroxy
Yah you could just go digital...

And steal music like so many others do...

But it isnt real...

Get some 1200's....GO BUY RECORDS!!!

Vinyl is still the best...

You'll feel it much more if you do it the real way...


SSL noob!


Posted by Wisnia on Dec-15-2005 17:28:

Bahhh I'd just buy cd decks instead of SSL. If you use that kind of equipment and actually play out its a pain in the ass to setup, and it is less stable then decks.

I do support the technology and the system tho.


Posted by Skipper on Dec-15-2005 18:48:

I don't regret buying turntables instead of CDs when I first bought my equipment in 2002. I don't know what your specific intentions are with this purchase (do you want to play out? make it a career? or just something to do @ home or for friends) but right now, you can guarantee every booking you get will have a pair of 1200s. And though CDs are becoming very popular very quickly, in my experience there will be some venues (smaller ones...but those are the gigs you will play when you are starting out...) that ONLY have turntables.

I personally love the feel and handling of vinyl, but the truth is...it is expensive. I am now looking at buying CDJs simply to be able to expand my music collection the way I want to without it costing thousands of dollars. I am one of those DJs who walks into a record store and leaves depressed because money does not allow me the opportunity to play the variety of music I want....at least, not on vinyl.

There are many LEGIT websites out there where you can buy individual tracks - the same ones you buy in record stores - instead of stealing/downloading it. They are $2 per track. You don't have to buy 3 tracks at once like you do with vinyl. And with vinyl, you pay the same price for the record whether there is four tracks on it or one.

At this point I am looking at CDs to help me become a better, more varied DJ...but I will always love vinyl and won't stop collecting it as long as I'm still DJing. However, you cant argue that CDs are here to stay. In 5 years I forsee many places that didn't have a DJ before having a DJ...but they will be playing on CD players. Knowing how to do both eventually will be a valued skill, but right now, I would suggest buying turntables to start out.


Posted by Marcus007 on Dec-15-2005 19:23:

CDJ800's are dry in Montreal. Backordered for two months at MOOG and I got the last one Steve's music store had... hehehehe

A simple mixer is all you need. I do, however, strongly recommend the cdj800's. Standard issue in almost every club.


Posted by Mekroon on Dec-15-2005 20:02:

i havent read everything carefully but all i can say is that ure getting into something really expensive...

if u already tried it a couple of times at some friend's place or whatever than maybe u can say u have an interest, but if u never touched a vinyl or practice on someone else stuff, than i suggest u do so before spending thousands on equipment and plates...

do u have a musical background???
before doing anything, u should really try to mix a couple of times with someone who can show u tips
cause maybe ull hate it, who knows!!!

i can say its really frustrating when u start, moreover if u dont know what is a measure or 4/4 beat:P

anyway, good luck


Posted by Mitsutranza on Dec-15-2005 20:13:

Get whatever equiptment you want, just as long as you become famous and give me unlimited access to the DJ booth.


MT


Posted by Marcus007 on Dec-15-2005 20:21:

Markess too. :P


Posted by dj ugo on Dec-15-2005 21:21:

It's all a question of what you like!! When i built my studio, i choose gear that is perfect to me. So my priority was the sound, everything is build for the final results. There's people prefering option, or all possibility that you can do whit the gear. Question of taste!! My opinion is the better way to start djing is by buying turnatables and mixer that give you the basics needs. So a Vestax, pioneer, allen & heath are perfect for begineers. Easy to use, you can find a model not too expensive. For cd player, you should buy something basic, a dual cd player, because in a regular club that's what you will find. Or, you can try the pioneer cdj 200, will be the better choice. Headphone, stanton is ok, sony and pioneer are perfect!! But honestly, djing is a question of feeling, so go to Moog or D-mention and try equipements, fallow your feelings. After practicing the feeling become better, and after that you can upgrade your gear!!


Posted by Cyberflow on Dec-15-2005 21:36:

You've got Dimention Dj, it's the Solotech departement for deejaying ...
http://www.dmention-dj.com/
On their website there is the adress.

You have Kostar that looks a little cheap in looks for a store, but meaby you'll have nice prices for equipement.

You can go to a vinyl store and ask if anyone is selling their equipement, and leave your phone if someone sells something.

There a website made from a montrealer, they sell mostly vinyls, but you can buy equipement and arange a pick up too http://www.djmr.com/

Heum what else ... good luck ?

^_^


Posted by all-nite-freak on Dec-15-2005 22:48:

I have had so many problems with Sony headphones...they break so easily


Posted by Dj Nacht on Dec-15-2005 22:51:

quote:
Originally posted by all-nite-freak
I have had so many problems with Sony headphones...they break so easily


I think the Mdr700 has new model which is more stable and breaks less easily. I sa it in HTFR booklet that gets mailed to me every month.


Posted by the_devil on Dec-15-2005 23:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Marcus007
CDJ800's are dry in Montreal. Backordered for two months at MOOG and I got the last one Steve's music store had... hehehehe

A simple mixer is all you need. I do, however, strongly recommend the cdj800's. Standard issue in almost every club.

We just got some stolen from our Dj Booth at school !
MARCUS ! u sure i didn't take them ?


Posted by Marcus007 on Dec-15-2005 23:19:


Posted by dj ugo on Dec-15-2005 23:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Nacht
I think the Mdr700 has new model which is more stable and breaks less easily. I sa it in HTFR booklet that gets mailed to me every month.


That's right, i bought a new one, and they're really better then the one before.


Posted by ~*Stereohead*~ on Dec-16-2005 02:41:

Wow, thanks a lot guys for all your responses; it really helped me out

I decided I'm gonna buy my friend's Numark mixer and turntables to start out...it'll be $$$ well spent and it's the perfect stuff for a beginner.

I spun a bit yesterday with him for a good 2 hrs I was fixated on beat matching and discovering the mixer, basically learning to feel the music at a different level, to really know it, if u all know what I mean.

And for Nick and Max, you guys are for sure in my booth VIP style lol...


Posted by ~*Stereohead*~ on Dec-16-2005 02:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Mekroon
i havent read everything carefully but all i can say is that ure getting into something really expensive...

if u already tried it a couple of times at some friend's place or whatever than maybe u can say u have an interest, but if u never touched a vinyl or practice on someone else stuff, than i suggest u do so before spending thousands on equipment and plates...

do u have a musical background???
before doing anything, u should really try to mix a couple of times with someone who can show u tips
cause maybe ull hate it, who knows!!!

i can say its really frustrating when u start, moreover if u dont know what is a measure or 4/4 beat:P

anyway, good luck


I do have a musical background: I sang for years and I played piano from 5yrs old til about 16 yrs old...I noticed how frustrating spinning can be for real! But I dunno...I found it more of a sweet challenge


Posted by dj ugo on Dec-16-2005 03:18:

What kind of music you want to play?


Posted by ~*Stereohead*~ on Dec-16-2005 03:37:

quote:
Originally posted by dj ugo
What kind of music you want to play?


Well, I fell in love with house music by being introduced to Chicago House but my tastes have expanded a lot since then (May 2005). I guess the style that would best describe what I wanna spin is Progressive Chicago House: combining funky, disco, melodic sounds with heavy, dark, pumping basslines...OOOOOOHHHHHH goosebumps


Posted by dj ugo on Dec-16-2005 03:48:

Ok so every kind of house music can be play by you. What's your influence?? Or which Dj/producer are you listening to?


Posted by sEpH on Dec-16-2005 03:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
I personally love the feel and handling of vinyl, but the truth is...it is expensive. I am now looking at buying CDJs simply to be able to expand my music collection the way I want to without it costing thousands of dollars. I am one of those DJs who walks into a record store and leaves depressed because money does not allow me the opportunity to play the variety of music I want....at least, not on vinyl.


+1


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