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Posted by Sanjoy on Dec-22-2005 20:36:

well, NRK -the norwegian state broadcasting system did actually broadcast a 30min long trance-documantary a few weeks ago..
it told the story of trance from the very beginning in the 80's (and how people made "trance" music in the stoneage), but unfortunately they didn't say anything about the development of the genre after the years 2000/2001, wich disappointed me a lot..
They followed a bunch of norwegian tranceaddicts to Sensation White 2005 and then also just had to put the spotlight on the "connection" between trance and drugs..
to sum up: they could have done it a lot better, but it was a nice try.. the part about the origin of trance, house and techno was good, but they should have told something about the development after 2001.. they gave people a wrong impression of the genre when they stopped where they did.. and they also focused too much on the drugs...


Posted by Axolotyl on Dec-23-2005 01:45:

Well like it or not, there is a very strong connection between trance music of all varieties and drugs. I think if there was to be a documentary, then its ony fair that it be represented and explained. The very idea of being in a trance is about experiencing an altered state and trance music was originally designed to aid in this.

Somehow I can imagine that 'norgegian state broadcasting' wouldn't have portrayed it an a very alternative and positive light though. It would be very easy to trivialise such a thing.


Posted by mety333 on Dec-23-2005 03:03:

I think I can sum up a documentry about Trance in 1 sentence:

Adagio for Strings


Posted by DJMaytag on Dec-23-2005 04:00:

any doumentary about trance and it's roots wouldn't be worth a rats ass without mention of Harthouse Records and the trance pioneers associated with that label, namely Sven Vath, Hardfloor, Oliver Lieb (Spicelab, LSG, Ambush, etc), Resistance D, Marco Zaffarano, Brainchild, etc. Some of their early ideas are what brought "trance" into it's own and set it apart from the umbrella "techno/rave" terminology that just about all electronic dance music fell under at the time (FWIW, about the same time trance was taking off in 1992/1993, jungle branched off from the UK Hardcore/breakbeat scene as a genre unto itself).

Some info:
http://www.harthouse.com/pages/history/history.htm
http://www.eye-q-music.de/about/vaeth_engl.htm


Posted by DJ_LG on Dec-23-2005 04:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Axolotyl
........there is a very strong connection between trance music of all varieties and drugs.


I think it's more like there is a strong connection between young people listening to any music and drugs.
I know alot of people who take drugs and don't like dance music.

quote:
Originally posted by Abhay
hah!

happy to cover how shit it is in Australia for u....


it's all heavily commercialised, cheesey crap. Even the house. Ur stuffed if u try to find good prog here...

The stuff in club is like all the shitty cheap trance CDs u can find. like "clubbers essentials 2004" or something etc. which is full of cheesy, poor, commercially productions



I would have to agree with you there. Also, alot of people wanna play hardstyle down here.

If you/they/someone made a doco about trance I think it should revolve around Europe which is where alot of it is made.


Posted by Kapedano on Dec-23-2005 05:28:

I would defently mention Ti�sto in that list and Ferry Corsten aswell. Also you can mention Jan Johnston for her amazing vocals. Thrillseekers, Solar Stone, old Tilt, Rank 1, M.I.K.E. There are plenty of talented producers, they are allready mentioned above, but these werent so I thought id mention them.


Posted by Ishkur on Dec-23-2005 05:42:

I wouldn't mention a single name.


Posted by Abhay on Dec-23-2005 08:25:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ_LG
I think it's more like there is a strong connection between young people listening to any music and drugs.
I know alot of people who take drugs and don't like dance music.




I would have to agree with you there. Also, alot of people wanna play hardstyle down here.

If you/they/someone made a doco about trance I think it should revolve around Europe which is where alot of it is made.


I think it should be made in a way, which makes aussies watching, want to change. Australians LOVE to see themselves with the rest of the world, and hate to feel like their left behind. It's an insecurity we have.

so i say, feed off it. But don't make it at all obvious. Just make us feel like shit, and it should move change.


Posted by Abhay on Dec-23-2005 08:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Ishkur
I wouldn't mention a single name.


somebody's getting jelous...

who's my favourite cynic? hmmm?

who's my favourite cynic?


awww... there there...


Posted by Ishkur on Dec-23-2005 11:50:

No, I seriously think doing it that way would be a piece of simplistic brilliance.

Talk about form, melody, content. Talk about musical cycles, trends, styles, habits, tastes and movements. Talk about texture, timbre, weight, passion, feel and exuberance. Talk about cycles, themes, and thematic creativity. And moreover, don't talk about these things, but SHOW them...and how the music, as an artform and a culture, has evolved, adapted, and grown.

This can all be done without mentioning a single name or giving a single interview.


Posted by Sanjoy on Dec-23-2005 12:12:

quote:
Originally posted by mety333
I think I can sum up a documentry about Trance in 1 sentence:

Adagio for Strings



haha! they did actually play adagio for strings at the end of the norwegian documentary, as an example of how terrible trance-music has become.. after that they said that the whole genre was about to die..


Posted by Abhay on Dec-23-2005 13:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Ishkur
No, I seriously think doing it that way would be a piece of simplistic brilliance.

Talk about form, melody, content. Talk about musical cycles, trends, styles, habits, tastes and movements. Talk about texture, timbre, weight, passion, feel and exuberance. Talk about cycles, themes, and thematic creativity. And moreover, don't talk about these things, but SHOW them...and how the music, as an artform and a culture, has evolved, adapted, and grown.

This can all be done without mentioning a single name or giving a single interview.


hmm, why not make it a series?

then u could have what u mentioned included. It's a bit technical, so better to leave it near the end .


Posted by josh rising on Dec-23-2005 17:37:

Jan Johnston
Ferry Corsten
M.I.K.E.
Armin

Fragma - Toca's Miracle
Cass & Slide - Perception
Push - Universal Nation
Jon Vesta - Gull


Posted by CND on Dec-24-2005 07:04:

I would fixate on a gravestone.

For a whole two hours.




Posted by limin_li on Dec-24-2005 20:50:

hi guys. I think I am going to write a script for the documentary. I am trying to focus on the music revoution during 99 era, and the 2003 progressive trance, 2004 techy trance style. The drug use. The bitching of Tiesto. I am trying to get high quality club/rave clips from various of events. Need lots of interviews and narration, and good video editing software.


Can this be done?


Posted by Project 7 on Dec-24-2005 21:25:

Paul oakenfold was designing the long lasting nuclear bomb that the explosion, everyone would witness and would stand in time. He hired a couple of workers to help him design a couple of the parts named, feris, arminx, and titieo, they where on there way to creating this masterpiece but ferris's ego got the better of him and he came up with a master plan to explode the bomb before it was ready, arminx and titieo quickly joined in and after only a short amount of time exploded it, 3 years later the blast subsided, and while it was good while it happened... just think what could of happened


Posted by RebeL9 on Dec-24-2005 22:45:

quote:
Originally posted by tieann

Fragma - Toca's Miracle


wow that tune really represents trance


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