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Posted by Orbital32 on Dec-20-2005 03:11:

hmmm.. Have you tried checking your TC/IP settings? delete temporary internet files? If that doesn't work then there is no answer to your problem.


Posted by Xenocreator_PG_ on Dec-20-2005 03:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbital32
hmmm.. Have you tried checking your TC/IP settings? delete temporary internet files? If that doesn't work then there is no answer to your problem.




EA games downloader support nightmares all over again


Posted by Krypton on Dec-20-2005 03:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Orbital32
hmmm.. Have you tried checking your TC/IP settings? delete temporary internet files? If that doesn't work then there is no answer to your problem.


what the fuck??? are u talking about


Posted by Trancealot on Dec-20-2005 03:49:

good luck. I done all the calc's plus diff eq I,II

disp vel acell jerk
(X^2)'->(2x)''->(2)'''->0


Posted by kadomony on Dec-20-2005 03:49:

you try to confuse.

math makes me


Posted by whiskers on Dec-20-2005 03:54:

Re: Little homework help (Calculus)

quote:
Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk::
original problem is.

(y+2)/y = 1/y-5



y + 2 = 1 - 5y => 1 = -6y => y=-1/6

yes?

unless you wrote it down incorrectly (i assume you did) there is no y^2


what you have come up with, however, has 2 solutions of 2+sqrt(14), 2-sqrt(14)


Posted by djkoolaide on Dec-20-2005 04:32:

Re: Little homework help (Calculus)

quote:
Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk::
ive been working this one problem, and have worked it all the way to this point.

y = y^2 -3y -10

i have no clue how to find y now, even after factoring it.

y = (y-5)(y+2)

original problem is.

(y+2)/y = 1/y-5

WHAT THE IS Y!!!!????

edit:: ACTUALLY ITS precalculus, not all the way to the big leagues yet


wtf? we do this shit in my Algebra II class.


Posted by Trancealot on Dec-20-2005 23:50:

GIVEN: (y+2)/y = 1/y-5



SOLUTION:
(a) y = (y+2)(y-5)
(b) y = y^2 -3y -10
(1) y=y^2-3y-10
(2) y^2-3y-10-y=0
(3) y^2-4y-10=0
(4) a=1, b=-4, c=-10
(5) (-(-4)+/- sqrt((-4)^2-4(1*-10))/(2*(1))
(6) (4 +/- sqrt(16+40))/(2)
(7) (4 +/- sqrt(56))/2
(8) Y1 = 5.74165
Y2 = -1.7416

CHECK:
5.74165 = 5.74165^2 -3(5.74165)-10
-1.7416 = -1.7416^2 -3( -1.7416)-10

For me, this is MATH II in HS. Quadratic Eq ish


Posted by yujie__ on Dec-21-2005 00:06:

its always 42


Posted by Transporter on Dec-21-2005 00:12:

Why don't you just download Matlab or other math software. it will show you exactly how to do it.


Posted by Krypton on Dec-21-2005 00:17:

well, they meld this stuff in with pre-calc, precalc is basically algebra II review and the beginnings of basic calculus. im doing this for somebody who's paying me 100 bucks to take an online course for him. but the guy hands over to me his portfolio, which he's 1 month behind, has a 52%. i brought that shit up to a 63% and he's now only 2 weeks behind. he smokes pot like no one else, and doesnt know a damn thing, he cheats his way thru everything, but i dont care, im gettin paid.


Posted by Abhay on Dec-21-2005 00:35:

ahhh...

brings back memories, of walking out on my maths class (teacher didn't give a shit)...

some how i Still graduated with a B+....

i think there's a special way to get derivatives of fractions, or maybe fractions of powers.

if i find my old texts, i'll PM u....

but that probably won't happen.


Posted by Krypton on Dec-21-2005 01:08:

we got the answer on page two guys, chill!!

ill probably come back to this thread with more problems, when i continue working later.


Posted by Krypton on Dec-22-2005 01:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
we got the answer on page two guys, chill!!

ill probably come back to this thread with more problems, when i continue working later.


another problem on the first page of the thread, post 1...

i know the answer to this one, but can u find it?

Find all the real RATIONAL zero's in this equation. (In other words, find how many time "x" crosses the "x" axis on a graph.)(or find all the real solutions of "x" that makes the equation = to zero. youll get a PRIZE!!!

x^3 - 4x^2 + x + 6 = 0


Posted by stevieboy32808 on Dec-22-2005 01:35:

Damn it, a third power!!! There's a method to do this but I forgot how, lemme ask my sis, she just passed algebra so it's still fresh in her head...


Posted by Jocker on Dec-22-2005 02:23:

quote:
Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk::
another problem on the first page of the thread, post 1...

i know the answer to this one, but can u find it?

Find all the real RATIONAL zero's in this equation. (In other words, find how many time "x" crosses the "x" axis on a graph.)(or find all the real solutions of "x" that makes the equation = to zero. youll get a PRIZE!!!

x^3 - 4x^2 + x + 6 = 0


x =-1; x=2; x=3

or

(x+1)(x-2)(x-3)=0


Posted by stevieboy32808 on Dec-22-2005 02:31:

Question

quote:
Originally posted by Jocker
x =-1; x=2; x=3
or
(x+1)(x-2)(x-3)=0

I'm at a loss...could you please show me how to do this or at least what method you used?


Posted by Jocker on Dec-22-2005 02:55:

quote:
Originally posted by stevieboy32808
I'm at a loss...could you please show me how to do this or at least what method you used?


finding the first root (-1) with picking of numbers (you go 0, +-1, +-2, +-3, etc... 99.9% of cubic equations in college textbooks have at least one real root in the +-3 range). then, factoring it out, and solving the quadratic equation. there is a much more complex formula for solving cubic equations (at least for real numbers, i'm not sure about the complex ones), but i don't remember it


Posted by stevieboy32808 on Dec-22-2005 03:11:

Why Do Our Answers Differ???

So why the difference of answers...


Posted by kadomony on Dec-22-2005 03:14:



here's one:
disprove the pythagorean theorem.


Posted by Krypton on Dec-22-2005 03:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Jocker
x =-1; x=2; x=3

or

(x+1)(x-2)(x-3)=0


niceee


quote:
I'm at a loss...could you please show me how to do this or at least what method you used?


x^3 - 4x^2 + x + 6

Possible zeros: +-6, +-3, +-2, +-1 (all factors of c/all factors of the 1st coefficent

guess and check. find out that when u divide 3 by x^3 - 4x^2 + x + 6 there is no remainder. so u know x-3 is a factor and that 3 is one solution. after dividing by 3, u get x^2 - x - 2. factor that out, and u get (x-2)(x+2) and then u include the (x-3).

use the zero theorem or whatever its called
x-2 = 0 (x = 2)
x+1 = 0 (x = -1)
x-3 = 0 (x = 3)

u have your answers.

to get the complex solutions if there are any, i believe u use the quadratic equation once u find at least one real solution. i have no idea how to find solutions to an equation with all complex zeros.
x-3 = 0 (


Posted by Jocker on Dec-22-2005 03:17:

you have a fundamental flaw

x(x^2-4x+1)=-6 doesn't mean that x=-6 and x^2-4x+1=-6 (judge yourself, then the answer would be -6*-6); you can say that different factors on the left equal the right side only when the right side is equal to 0. i.e x(x^2-4x+1)=0 would indeed mean that x=0 and x^2-4x+1=0

edit: this is to stevieboy


Posted by Jocker on Dec-22-2005 03:18:

quote:
Originally posted by kadomony


here's one:
disprove the pythagorean theorem.


only if not in euclidian geometry, because in euclidian geometry (i.e. geometry that you study in school) the pythagorean theorem holds true.


Posted by stevieboy32808 on Dec-22-2005 03:21:

quote:
Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk::

quote:
Originally posted by Jocker

Thanks to the both of you. I totally forgot about the setting equal to zero part and NOT -6. By setting it equal to -6 that is no longer a root...so you're right again.


Posted by Krypton on Dec-22-2005 03:23:

anybody got anything to solve?


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