question for those of you who made the transition from vinyl to CDs

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Posted by Tegu on Dec-23-2005 00:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Trogdor
Sorry, but it doesn't get any easier than that.

wrong.

every time you hit the cue button on the cdj's its a perfect drop, not so with vinyl. the quality and weight of the vinyl as well as your needle and tracking force are all variables that contribute to not getting a perfect release when cueing vinyl.

cueing on vinyl is way harder, end of story.

Posted by sr126 on Dec-23-2005 00:55:

tegu, i can only assume your english is not that good... ;p

i was (we're) not talking about talking about the actual playing of the song. we're talking about scanning thru a song. if you want to go the loudest part of the song so you can match levels. w/a TT all you do is pick up the needle and put it where ever the loudest part part of the song is. you can tell just by looking at the record.

if you want to start from a specific point in the song like a break down. you just put the needle on the part part of the record that corresponds the point that you're looking for. you can tell just buy looking at the record.

there is no way to physically grab the laser in a cd player and make it do what you want to do as quickly or easily as you can w/the needle. you have to scroll thru the song, and patiently wait untill you arrive at the point you are looking for.

you are also wrong about hitting the cue button for the perfect drop.
hit the button wrong, the song doens't play at all. either way, if you don't release the record just right, or hit play but at the right time, you will have to correct no matter what.

Posted by Tony Morello on Dec-23-2005 01:30:

that's the main reason i'm switching to digital
i'm tired of mixes being ruined because of needles jumping just as i'm about to release

Posted by sr126 on Dec-23-2005 02:27:

it's super rare for me to have problems w/the needle skipping.

even when i had beltdrives w/stanton 500al, skipping was pretty much a non issue. -and i spun w/that set up for about 4-5years.

i've never seen how you spin, don't know how your TT's are set up, or seen the condition of your vinyl...

so i'm not gonna about critiqing how you go about handling your business.

but it does make me wonder what is going on(w/you and a lot of other people who complain about needle skips) to make someone want to switch formats? is it really that bad? what are you poeple doing to your vinyl???

Posted by Tegu on Dec-23-2005 07:09:

the point is there's far more consistency on cdjs. yes scanning through a track is easier on vinyl, obviously, but i don't see how hitting a button is harder than dropping a vinyl at just the right momment. you don' thave to account for things like torque and a really light weight vinyl when playing on cd. thats all i'm saying.

and don't say my english is bad you stupid fuck. i'm american. don't take the fact that you're bad at button pushing out on the rest of the forum.

Posted by davemolina on Dec-23-2005 23:06:

It sucks though when a DJ is going off and his CD starts skipping.

Posted by sleepydragon on Dec-23-2005 23:40:

in a club ive heard cds skip far more often than what vinyl does.

Posted by Max Thomson on Dec-24-2005 00:43:

I bought a quarter ounce of marijuana and over the course of a week ripped all my vinyl to my computer and encoded them as 320 kb/s mp3s, eventually burning them all to cd. I also had to come up with a labelling system for the cds, which wasn't that hard. Honestly, just devote some time to it and you'll be fine, theres nothing more to it.

I don't mind playing off CDs only, CDJ1000MK2s + laptop = heaven

Posted by Tony Morello on Dec-24-2005 01:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Tegu
the point is there's far more consistency on cdjs. yes scanning through a track is easier on vinyl, obviously, but i don't see how hitting a button is harder than dropping a vinyl at just the right momment. you don' thave to account for things like torque and a really light weight vinyl when playing on cd. thats all i'm saying.

and don't say my english is bad you stupid fuck. i'm american. don't take the fact that you're bad at button pushing out on the rest of the forum.

that's exactly it, it takes the variables out of djing

Posted by sr126 on Dec-24-2005 04:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Tegu
the point is there's far more consistency on cdjs.

true. -but there's still plenty of room for human error.

quote:
yes scanning through a track is easier on vinyl, obviously,

finally we're on the same page. this is what i was saying all along.

quote:
but i don't see how hitting a button is harder than dropping a vinyl at just the right momment. you don' thave to account for things like torque and a really light weight vinyl when playing on cd. thats all i'm saying.

you're right, hitting a button is easier. but it still doesn't matter what you use, or how easy it is to use. it's not the machines job to be perfect. no one books a turntable, or a cd player to perform. they book you. your weapon of choice can't help you if you're not perfect.

quote:
and don't say my english is bad you stupid fuck. i'm american.

what was i supposed to think? we're talking about one thing, and you're getting up in our face talking about something else...

quote:
don't take the fact that you're bad at button pushing out on the rest of the forum.

hahaha... true... i do suck at typing.

all jokes aside, i'm glad we understand each other.

Posted by Zild on Dec-24-2005 05:06:

quote:
Originally posted by davemolina
It sucks though when a DJ is going off and his CD starts skipping.

BWAHAHAHAHA poor Joe!

Posted by Omega_Blue on Dec-24-2005 06:40:

dropping the track is easier because it's pretty much an instant start. and correcting mixes going out of tempo is easier with the pitch bend buttons than using the pitch slider on a tt.

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