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Posted by l]evil on Jan-04-2006 04:38:

why would u bring it back to the dealers they always rip the shit out of you ANYWAYS. retail bs.


Posted by 4-play on Jan-04-2006 09:55:

Clutches are a bitch. They can go bad overnight, let alone the 7k kms you drove. SOme of my brothers friends took his car one night, and gave it back 2 hours later with a burnt clutch. It had to be replaced. So its a hit or miss thing here. Either the previous owner had something to do with it, or it was your driving. Sadly, you will never be able to find out. I would just get it replaced anyway. You will be wasting your time (not having a car) arguing back and forth with the dealer.


Posted by Playa24_7 on Jan-04-2006 11:59:

Having worked at a dealership, alot of stuff goes on behind the scenes that the potential buyer of a used car does not see. Theres alot of cover ups sometimes on certain things, be warned. As with most car places, and people who fix cars, you have to look around to find a decent place, and alot of places are dicks.

As everyone said, your most likely screwed. Replace it and find another dealer.


Posted by Stingray on Jan-04-2006 16:29:

quote:
Originally posted by chinamon



Oh god. Dont even get me started on what various Honda/Acura dealers have done to my family and friends.

One small example: Clutch for an RSX $1800


Posted by DigitalMP on Jan-04-2006 16:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Stingray
Aye. They go on about superior German engineering but they are built in Mexico.


engineering != building



As for the dealer's inspection, that's like them telling you the brakes are ok, and you going back to them to bitch that the pads have worn out.

Like Vertigo said, wear items aren't included in a warranty.

Besides, who in the world lets the salesman inspect the car you're going to buy?? Of course they're going to tell you it's alright. Get your own mechanic to do it.


Posted by dj_souvlaki on Jan-04-2006 17:16:

quote:
Originally posted by DigitalMP
engineering != building



As for the dealer's inspection, that's like them telling you the brakes are ok, and you going back to them to bitch that the pads have worn out.

Like Vertigo said, wear items aren't included in a warranty.

Besides, who in the world lets the salesman inspect the car you're going to buy?? Of course they're going to tell you it's alright. Get your own mechanic to do it.


everything wears. your telling me that if an engine blows up cause of excessive wear at 50 000 km it isn't covered under warranty. breaks are and should be covered up to at least 10 - 25000 km.

a clutch should last well over 100 000km. i blew my clutch on my mazda pickup after 350 000 km and i beat the living shit out of this truck.




THE DEALER IS TRYING TO SCREW YOU. YOU HAVE A WARRANTY. THE CLUTCH SHOULD AND IS COVERED UNDER WARRANTY.!!!!


Posted by DigitalMP on Jan-04-2006 17:21:

clutch disc. brake pads. hoses. belts. tires. exhaust pipes.

none are covered.

other clutch parts, besides the disc, including the housing and slave cylinder, should be covered under warranty.


Posted by dj_souvlaki on Jan-04-2006 17:26:

so should the cltuch. it is a heavy duty part that should be designed to last long.

thats like saying your clutch packs in your rear diff on a limited slip diff aren't covered under warranty. or the clutch packs in automatic transmissions.


Posted by VERTiG0 on Jan-04-2006 18:45:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_souvlaki
so should the cltuch. it is a heavy duty part that should be designed to last long.

thats like saying your clutch packs in your rear diff on a limited slip diff aren't covered under warranty. or the clutch packs in automatic transmissions.


Tell that to Nissan Canada's warranty department. You'll get a friendly surprise!

Also, the most fun I've had with a clutch is a friend's 3000GT VR4 back in highschool. His dad brought it over from New York for him, and the clutch was almost toast. He told us to go finish it off one afternoon.

7200rpm launches are awesome in a 3800lb AWD car with 320bhp and some 300lb-ft torque. Should've seen the smoke. And the smell, oh, the smell...


Posted by dj_souvlaki on Jan-04-2006 19:43:

all exhaust systems are also covered your extended enviromental warranty(ie cats, mufflers, and exhaust pipes). bet you didn't know that one.


Posted by MarkT on Jan-04-2006 19:51:

^^^ you can say what SHOULD be covered...but if it's NOT covered, your *opinion* doesn't matter, does it?


quote:
Originally posted by VERTiG0
Aaaaaand from friends' experience with Nissan, they'll tell you politely to fuck off

Clutches are wear items, like brakes and windshield wipers. You're fucked.


I'm not saying he'll actually GET anywhere with them...but that's about his only chance. It's not unheard of, particularly for people driving a non-entry level car, to get *some* satisfaction from customer service.

Having said that...yep, good luck to him. I'd be pissed too, but 1. buying used and 2. buying an expensive car = potential for expensive (an unexpected) repairs.

btw...was '03 the first model year? just asking


Posted by VERTiG0 on Jan-04-2006 20:09:

quote:
Originally posted by MarkT
btw...was '03 the first model year? just asking


It sure is. This is something everybody should know - never buy a first model year car unless it's a Honda. Goddamn Honda gets almost everything perfect. Except their slushboxes (see: TL, CL)


Posted by 4-play on Jan-05-2006 03:30:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by DigitalMP
brake pads. hoses. belts. exhaust pipes.

[/QUOTE
Some manufacturers do cover that under the 'scheduled maintainance' program, unless the parts are modified. When I was in the US, BMW used to replace the wiper blades too when they wore out. But that was back in 99, so they may have changed it now.


Posted by Euphorica on Jan-05-2006 20:22:

You either suck shit at driving OR they didnt check it(which im betting is what happend) and the previous owner fucked it up good.

although you probably shouldve felt it. did you drive more then one car? if so you shouldve felt it not grabbing like the others.

my stock clutch lasted 100k and was perfectly fine when I took it out for a performance clutch. GO HONDA.

as for bmw and german engineering..FUCK THAT. dont fucking buy a BMTROUBLEU unless you got the super extended warranty covering everything. the new ones are HORRID and cost and arm and a leg to fix.

1500(with labour?) is ok for a clutch install. take this oppurtunity and possibly buy an aftermarket clutch. (RESEARCH IT on the nissan boards). itll be cheaper (most likely) , can last just as long or longer and will support more torque.


that said i wouldnt have bought a 350

s2k FTW!

Id try and push them to replace it(and say they didnt inspect it). if not take your business to another dealer. (ie: dont get the work done at the place that"inspected " it. )


Posted by MarkT on Jan-05-2006 20:27:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_souvlaki
so should the cltuch. it is a heavy duty part that should be designed to last long.

thats like saying your clutch packs in your rear diff on a limited slip diff aren't covered under warranty. or the clutch packs in automatic transmissions.


btw, warranty is against *defect*...not wear.

the problem with a wear item that carries some sort of defect warranty is that the onus generally falls upon the owner to demonstrate that it was a defect, not wear (tranny, brakes, tires, etc).

unless there is a published service bulletin or recall on D!abolic's part, Nissan will simply state that it's not defective and not covered. How will he prove otherwise?


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