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Posted by queen_vee on Jan-10-2006 02:07:

Um... I think 'progressive trance 2005/6' is what straight 'trance' in the golden era was (ie the Heaven Scent's/For An Angel's etc)

Trance is now interchangeable with ASOT. Which is interchangeable with utter crap.

The 'top tracks of 2005' are basically all complete rubbish! Which is either cos the wrong labels now get the recognition and were far better and promoting themselves and the artists than selecting decent music, or cos there really are no good tracks being made anymore.

I will say I have SERIOUSLY fallen in love with Love Theme Dusk, gorgeous! And Zocolo is great too... there's still some gems out there!


Posted by sshyperion on Jan-10-2006 04:03:

I've been getting the feeling that Trance has been coming to a head in the mainstream market and we're bound to have meshes and bad creations of trance music (and bad is quite arguable in this case). Overall I think it's been pretty good, obviously with bad points i can't remember of right now (other than I know a few CD compilations i've listened to were pegged as trance and were far from it i.e. this one DJ who "has just broken from the dance scene into the trance scene" and boy, this guy really needs to shed his Dance skin 'cause the whole CD was pure Dance still lol).

Overall it's been pretty good although the mass commercialization of a few artists will inevitably harm the genre after it's done its help (again this is arguable). Hopefully the budding artists and more localized/less over mainstreamed artists will see what's happening in terms of negative reprecussions and will avoid the mistakes their predecessors and some of their equals are/will make.


Posted by trance-ecj on Jan-10-2006 04:12:

when i find good tracks, trance is sounding better.

however, with each passing year, those tracks becoming harder and harder to find.

between end of october to today, i may have been excited about 3 tracks at the most!

its pretty bad...iv done a lot of dabbling with breaks and house, and even a little drum and bass as a result.

but when that one track comes around, its awesome. Track 4 in Precisions True to Trance jan 06 set is an example. Prior to that, you have to go back to oct for me to find an exciting track


Posted by hardstyle on Jan-10-2006 04:14:

hmm

i dont really listening to trance anymore , i went back to early rave, hardcore, darkcore , hardstyle.

I know lots of people think harder styles of dance music is just a noise but its not cheese as the new trance


Posted by sshyperion on Jan-10-2006 04:16:

this is just me but if anyone's interested in listening to some good, relatively new trance (minus one or two tracks on the CD), then check out Trip in Trance 4 (can't say much about Trip in Trance 5 since I don't own it yet). I found that Rank 1 did an excellent job mixing the majority of the songs i.e. Sandler - Theme Song, Kenny Hayes - Daybreakers (Airbase mix), etc. (check out www.hibias.ca). I know it's a bit biased but that might rekindle some interest


Posted by Sykonee on Jan-10-2006 06:04:

quote:
Originally posted by sshyperion
this is just me but if anyone's interested in listening to some good, relatively new trance (minus one or two tracks on the CD), then check out Trip in Trance 4 (can't say much about Trip in Trance 5 since I don't own it yet). I found that Rank 1 did an excellent job mixing the majority of the songs i.e. Sandler - Theme Song, Kenny Hayes - Daybreakers (Airbase mix), etc. (check out www.hibias.ca). I know it's a bit biased but that might rekindle some interest

Or just read this.


As for the state of trance these days? Eh, the psy scene's definitely worth checking out again for those clamouring for the good ol' pre-anthem styled trance. A lot of it seems to have hunkered down in the psy camp when it was rejected by the mainstream acts.


Posted by Radagast on Jan-10-2006 06:15:

It can't become much worse, i'm afraid.


Posted by emc^2 on Jan-10-2006 08:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Radagast
It can't become much worse, i'm afraid.


Trust me, as long as Tiesto has access to recording equipment - IT CAN!


Posted by teknomonki on Jan-10-2006 09:19:

Its plagued by recycled production techniques and lazy composition without any innovation or attempts to change its direction.
Thats why its has become like Ishkur's proverbial rollercoaster; a few times around and you get bored because you know whats coming....

Who can save it? Sounds like a job for Duffman!


Posted by sigmanova on Jan-10-2006 09:25:

personally it's been getting worse as the years go by.

occasionally however, there is always that one or two (or more ) diamond out of the rough that puts faith back into the genre.


Posted by THE_Chris on Jan-10-2006 11:35:

IMO is going to shit. Everythings getting monotonous and formulaic, and theres little or no innovation.

All the harder DJs seem to be switching to house (MarcoV, even Picotto from his latest Meganite set) and the scene seems to be dividing. Rather than being called 'trance', its going like 'tracks Armin would play', 'tracks PVD would play' etc. People arent making tracks for the sake of it, theyre making tracks for their DJ to play. Which is creating a lot of shit and dividing the industry.

On the plus, psy and prog-psy are on fire at the moment


Posted by DJ Cinos on Jan-10-2006 12:24:

Trance is shit nowadays. Goes for all melodic trance (thank you Above & Beyond) psytrance (thank you, Skazi) and everything else.

Blaah.


Posted by ChoBo on Jan-10-2006 12:49:

quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
psytrance has to be split up in various parts before it can be analyzed. if we talk about the old goa trance sound it's definatly almost dead. it had it glorious days but they ended. at the same time the psytrance that most people refer to as full on trance emerged and gained huge part of the market. it was quickly flooded by all israeli acts.
but the old psytrance sound (such as Hallucinogen, X-Dream, The Delta etc) still lives on and is more exprimental today. Just listen to X-Dreams latest album. It borrow loads of elements from electro.

Personally I'm quite fed up with the full on sound atm. not many really good releases out there nowadays.


Bah the full on sound really turned me off big time which was I stopped listening to psy. Been almost 2 years now. Too much GMS shit, dark and evil shit or what ever they call it from labels like Pavarti. Skazi and the guys from chemical-crew blew it up big time. I still do like the tech-trance section though from labels such as Moonflower, Psyristor Traxx, Sounds of Feedback. Miss the old school stuff a lot!

Back to the topic, I do not think trance is dying, I think its still getting better everytime


Posted by Floorfiller on Jan-10-2006 13:16:

looking back at the type of music that i've liked over time, sometimes i wonder if i ever really even liked trance. i mean of course i like a lot of trance tunes from back in the day, but my favorite has always been the more progressive and housier basslines out there...never really listened to ferry corsten sets or a lot of tiesto sets or paul van dyk. i always preferred sasha and oakenfold's style...


Posted by tubularbills on Jan-10-2006 14:49:

I dunno if I would say it's getting worse or better...it's just different. and as tunes have changed over the years, so have my listening habits/preferences. there's some tunes that i listen to now that i thought i never would....and likewise when i listen to some older stuff from 99/2000, i don't understand why i liked it.

maybe all that is a bad thing....but whatever i just roll w/ it.


Posted by allen on Jan-10-2006 15:32:

well.. in my personal opnion hopin no one gets offended.... i think that trance became the basic commercial genre of the whole edm scene for the past years... i used to like trance when i was a kid.. when trance used to be underground... when you listen to tracks no knowing where they came from.... but now... unfortunately... it became too happy too melodic... lots of vocals kicking in... you find poeple at a gig singing along to vocal tracks as if its a fucking alternative rock concert....

so breifly... trance on commercial basis... is doing good,the only underground trance is psychedelic trance.

NOW i prefer other geners... such as prog house which is my fav,tech house,funky house,electro,psy trance and some downtempo music


Posted by Bemps on Jan-10-2006 15:33:

I found 2005 to be a weak year for trance. Imo there just aren't that many stand-out tracks as in years past. I have difficulty making a top 10 this year but not because of overwhelming worthy candidates. This past year I listened to a lot more deep house and the whole electro thing, and a more techy sound which has been creeping in to trance. Like many people mentioned before, trance as we used to know it won't be the sole source of trance. The blending of genres will likely continue.


Posted by daeus on Jan-10-2006 15:37:

quote:
Originally posted by eRRaTiK
+1

though for house and electro it's been rockin'


I've never doubted a downfall in trance, for every bad track i hear a great one makes up for it.

If anything trance only gets better as hardware is always developing newer sounds.


Posted by Allied Nations on Jan-10-2006 15:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Ian

For progressive, you can't beat progpsy, esp the swedish take on it, son kite, human blue etc.


dont forget ticon..

i was listenin to crazy dark psy all fucking weekend in with a bunch of fucking crack heads.. some group called jelly heads.. fucking wacked shit!


Posted by trancedanne on Jan-10-2006 15:58:

for me the only thing that is going forward is progressive, but im not really into edm anymore, i listen mostly too filmmusic.


Posted by sshyperion on Jan-10-2006 16:23:

let's keep in mind that even if trance in general is hitting a monotonous, relatively mainstream effect, stuff like this both good and bad will show up. but like anything in the music industry, it's on a cycle. so it's arguable we're at the peak starting to hit the trough of the cycle but that just means in time over the next few years we'll get back underground moreso and start all over again.


Posted by Eagle` on Jan-10-2006 16:25:

quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
if we talk about the old goa trance sound it's definatly almost dead.


K albums are more than a year old already but, I think Ypsilon5 and Filteria revived it with Binary Sky and Sky Input


Posted by RebeL9 on Jan-10-2006 16:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Eagle`
K albums are more than a year old already but, I think Ypsilon5 and Filteria revived it with Binary Sky and Sky Input


that's exactly why I said almost


Posted by sshyperion on Jan-10-2006 16:30:

random, unrelated post

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sorry I felt I had to do that


Posted by Eagle` on Jan-10-2006 16:38:

quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
that's exactly why I said almost


I think you have to give it some time, spitting out tracks at the same ridiculous speed some producers do, doesn't benefit the quality of it at all imo.


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