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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced McKenna is by far the best candidate for the position....at least for now. in ten years it will be Dryden's position to loose

Won't Dryden be too old in 10 yrs?

CONGRATULATIONS, JAYX1!!!!

Now stfu for a while.



No, seriously--when do I get my lifetime pass to Viva for voting Conservative?

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Originally posted by fayraree No, seriously--when do I get my lifetime pass to Viva for voting Conservative?

LMAO

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced McKenna is by far the best candidate for the position....at least for now. in ten years it will be Dryden's position to loose

you might see Dryden make a run at it now, but his lack of experience as an MP would hurt him big time. I do think it's high time we had a non-French Liberal leader though. Well, there was Turner in the 80s but he was a moron.

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Originally posted by MarkT Michael Ignatieff...future Liberal leader and future PM of Canada. anyone wanna bet?

yes forget it, ain't gonna happen

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 you might see Dryden make a run at it now, but his lack of experience as an MP would hurt him big time. I do think it's high time we had a non-French Liberal leader though. Well, there was Turner in the 80s but he was a moron.

once again, you reek of francophobia kid.

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Originally posted by malek once again, you reek of francophobia kid.

nothing to do with it. Martin, Chretien and Trudeau were all Quebecers. If the Liberals want to rebuild, they're going to have to start winning back Ontario and the West. It's time an Ontarian or Maritimer took over the party. Federalist French should not and do not own the Liberal Party.

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 nothing to do with it. Martin, Chretien and Trudeau were all Quebecers. If the Liberals want to rebuild, they're going to have to start winning back Ontario and the West. It's time an Ontarian or Maritimer took over the party. Federalist French should not and do not own the Liberal Party.

no one owns the party, what is this, your local kilting club?

A Canadien leader didn't prevent Ontario to vote for him and stay as a PM all these years, happily not everyone in Canada is like yourself, close minded francophobe.

One thing you might not get, is that many PM are lawyers by profession and that 9 out of 10 biggest firms in Canada are located in Montr�al.

and for some reason you imply that a Canadien PM is bad for Canada and good for Quebec which is not the case, look at what these guys did to prevent the split of the country... nothing and still don't want to acknowledge Qu�bec.

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Originally posted by malek no one owns the party, what is this, your local kilting club? A Canadien leader didn't prevent Ontario to vote for him and stay as a PM all these years, happily not everyone in Canada is like yourself, close minded francophobe. One thing you might not get, is that many PM are lawyers by profession and that 9 out of 10 biggest firms in Canada are located in Montr�al. and for some reason you imply that a Canadien PM is bad for Canada and good for Quebec which is not the case, look at what these guys did to prevent the split of the country... nothing and still don't want to acknowledge Qu�bec.

man, get real. The Liberals have been dominated by Quebecers for decades. And you talk about francophobes...try getting people west of Ontario to vote for a French PM. Oh wait...they don't and haven't for for 20 years. Didn't you watch Harper's victory speech? Every time he spoke in French there were boos and VERY muted cheers. Westerners can't stand Quebec and you're calling me, a lifelong supporter of the Liberal party and a federalist Quebec, a francophobe, because I think it's time for an Anglo Canadian to take over the party's reigns?

Man...seriously, stop being so paranoid.

Quebec hating? more like jealous of Quebec, or envious of the attention its getting... its penis envy. Harper using Levesque in its speeches, Alberta wants to "firewall itself" like Quebec did 40 years ago... etc etc.


anyhow, you are clueless and its now clear, the west isn't voting for the Liberals because of a Canadien PM (Paul Martin is so Quebecois:rolleyes but because they don't stand Liberal values and its centralization.

Don't mix things, you're just imagining stuff, same thing goes for the boos... i listened the same speech as you, no boos, reserved cheers because they don't understand and don't know whats the cue for cheering.

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Originally posted by malek Quebec hating? more like jealous of Quebec, or envious of the attention its getting... its penis envy. Harper using Levesque in its speeches, Alberta wants to "firewall itself" like Quebec did 40 years ago... etc etc. anyhow, you are clueless and its now clear, the west isn't voting for the Liberals because of a Canadien PM (Paul Martin is so Quebecois:rolleyes but because they don't stand Liberal values and its centralization. Don't mix things, you're just imagining stuff, same thing goes for the boos... i listened the same speech as you, no boos, reserved cheers because they don't understand and don't know whats the cue for cheering.

you need to go out west and talk to some people. I met many people in Edmonton, Calgary and in BC who cannot stand the Liberals for many reasons, one of which is because they see it catering to Quebec way too much. Sure, you might not get any of them admitting it on here, but francophobia is as rampant out there as anti-Ontario sentiment and anti-western sentiment is in Ontario.

There were tons of boos and people yelling negative things when Harper was speaking French. You must be deaf....but it's quite clear you're a very paranoid quebecer in any event. You use that francophobe thing way too much.

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Originally posted by Dj Smitty20 You use that francophobe thing way too much.

i agree

you both have good points, but i think it would do the liberal party more good than not to have a non-quebecor leading the party (well at least not french as first language). Not cause they'res anything wrong with that haha, just cause as far as canadian voters as a whole go, the liberals would tend to get more votes. But thats only if the choose a good leader, regardless of where hes from in the first place.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 NO Lets put PEOPLE in power who deserve to be there. Not just because they fit a particular demographic. Women need to be encouraged to run but they shouldnt run just because they are women.

Totally agree with this. I don't think women should be put in power because they're women. They should be put in power because they deserve it.
Personally I really couldn't give a crap that Harper's party has few women in it. If it means not having stupid #$@#!s like Belinda in there then thank fuck there aren't more women in that party.
Also you might be interested in knowing that the majority of my female friends voted Conservative. Which goes to show that to some people, it's a matter of who deserves it, rather than a pity vote because "there aren't enough women in the party".

The problem is that the Liberal party FOCUSED on Quebec, and IGNORED the West (and the Atlantic Province for that matter, but then again, EVERYONE ignores the atlantic). Albertan's anger at Quebec can be called jealousy, because basically, it is. They are jealous that for the last 13 years, the Canadian government has pandered to Quebec while voter apathy in Ontario, and a lack of a credible opposition, handed the Liberals 4 straight terms in office.

Quebec and Alberta are essentially fighting for the same things, namely, more power given to the provinces. It seems they don't trust eachother because of Liberal spin-doctoring and babying of Quebec.

I didn't hear any booing during the french parts of Harper's speech, just, as malek said, reserved cheers because the people didn't know what he was saying.

Where the next leader of the Liberal party comes from should NOT matter. It's sad that in a nation that's supposed to be so 'multicultural', we have people worried about whether or not a leader is from Quebec, or Ontario, or Alberta. Guess what people, it doesn't matter! What matters is that they are capable of seeing other points of view and carrying out a competent governing term (or many).

Michael Ignattief will never be PM. Outside of Toronto he isn't very popular with Canadians. Many see him as having spent way too much time in the USA. I could be wrong of course, he IS a pretty smart guy after all.

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Originally posted by Spam ...Michael Ignattief will never be PM. Outside of Toronto he isn't very popular with Canadians. Many see him as having spent way too much time in the USA. I could be wrong of course, he IS a pretty smart guy after all.

i didn't say the NEXT Liberal leader and PM...it may be quite premature for a party seeking to rebuild to pin their hopes on a newcomer and relatively unknown quantity to most Canadians. I think McKenna is the clear front-runner right now too.

if he's never to become party leader and possibly PM...I do hope that he eventually fills a senior role in the party and a future gov't.

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