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lol ok yea that makes sense

fuck im slow today

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Originally posted by 4-play I had 'expressvu for condos' (VDSL) for a couple of weeks, and it honestly sucks. No HD channels, internet is capped at 3Mbps (for now at least), BUT, they have some really good plans, and since this type of service is new, they are willing to negotiate if coming from Rogers. So far, I have had no problems with Rogers (except for the damn torrent thing), so a few dollars a month wont make me change my mind.

no HD? is that still the case?

I have DSL through a friend's ISP...so no worries there. But if I can't get HD through Bell, then it's a deal breaker...I'll have to look into that, thanks.

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Originally posted by Special K lol ok yea that makes sense fuck im slow today

dude i was confused by it too...lol...just the way it was written was weird...

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Originally posted by MarkT no HD? is that still the case? I have DSL through a friend's ISP...so no worries there. But if I can't get HD through Bell, then it's a deal breaker...I'll have to look into that, thanks.

Bell offers HD. I know that for sure. They claim to have the most HD channels too.

Another alternative: http://www.get3web.com/highspeed/hi...sp?page=hsindex

From what I hear, very good service (so far). There is an integrated voip package being tested in Calgary from the same company. Should blow Bell and Rogers out of the water

Come on guys! Ted has to pay for the World Series he is trying to buy. Cut the guy some slack we don't want him to dip below his billion dollars.

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH Bell offers HD. I know that for sure. They claim to have the most HD channels too.

Bell offers HD on it satellite service. The expressVu for condos (VDSL) does not have HD channels as yet. This was the case last month, and thats why I cancelled it and went back to Rogers.

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Originally posted by Time2Burn Come on guys! Ted has to pay for the World Series he is trying to buy. Cut the guy some slack we don't want him to dip below his billion dollars.

never ever, EVER say that again

Rogers has more money than you can imagine and for all I care (or anyone I know) he doesn't diserve a penny. Rogers can suck my ****. Sorry to sound harsh but I'm very Anti Rogers if you haven't noticed... He sucks and that's the bottom line

By the way this 3WebXS High Speed Internet looks awsome, I hope I can first test it to see if it's reliable...

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Originally posted by Sunquest never ever, EVER say that again Rogers has more money than you can imagine and for all I care (or anyone I know) he doesn't diserve a penny. Rogers can suck my ****. Sorry to sound harsh but I'm very Anti Rogers if you haven't noticed... He sucks and that's the bottom line

Ted Rogers is a businessman and he is doing what every business strives for. Profitability. Although I do agree, they could improve on their services a bit, but they are still ok in my books.

If a few dollar increase is going to break the budget - then maybe one should reconsider having cable all together.

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker If a few dollar increase is going to break the budget - then maybe one should reconsider having cable all together.

Its not about breaking the bank, its about one last straw. Downgrading service and increased prices would certainly upset me.

i just switched to Sympatico .... but i'm pissed that they are mailiong my modem to me so it's taking forever, and cable well i don't pay for it

Wait didn't they just increased the Lite internet by $5 in October or November?

THEY DID!!!! THIS IS F**EN REDICULUS

I will defenitely look for other options- any sugesstions ppl?

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Originally posted by TrinityGirl Wait didn't they just increased the Lite internet by $5 in October or November? THEY DID!!!! THIS IS F**EN REDICULUS I will defenitely look for other options- any sugesstions ppl?

There are rumblings on other message boards that in conjunction with the price increase for Rogers Lite, they are also increasing the speed up to 1Mb download, or around 3x as fast as it currently is. Apparently many people have already been upgraded to this speed, although it hasn't been formally announced by Rogers as it continues to be rolled out area by area.

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Originally posted by Orko Its not about breaking the bank, its about one last straw. Downgrading service and increased prices would certainly upset me.

There are other options out there. Welcome to the world of competition.

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Originally posted by baystreetboi Actually that's exactly the reason. The cable infrastructure is not like the phone infrastructure where each individual line is easily addressable / can be swapped / handed off to a reseller. There is only one signal that runs down the cable (and especially with the bandwidth needed these days for things like Video-on-demand and HDTV), there is not enough room to have 2 competing carriers both transmitting their signal down that wire. It also doesn't make financial sense for 2 separate companies to each string their own wire across every telephone pole, through every sewer so that each house ends up with 2 cable drops that they can pick from.

i recall this as well .. i guess it means there will never be "true" competition in the cable industry ?

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Originally posted by 4-play Bell offers HD on it satellite service. The expressVu for condos (VDSL) does not have HD channels as yet. This was the case last month, and thats why I cancelled it and went back to Rogers.

Seems Bell might be offering it soon though?

This is from someone who is apparently a "Network Planner" with Bell Expressvu.

http://www.digitalhomecanada.com/fo...ead.php?t=32289

"Update for those of you that have Expressvu for condo service (VDSL) Bell is now installing HD receivers from Motorola. I know of at least a dozen installs to date. No PVR yet (maybe in the fall) but if you want your HDTV to look it's best this receiver is a must."

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Originally posted by dEsidEL i recall this as well .. i guess it means there will never be "true" competition in the cable industry ?

Depends on what you consider the "cable" industry to be. One could argue that the satellite companies are competition, and with Bell in the process of launching IPTV over their phone lines, that could be reasonable competition as well.

Personally, I don't have a huge issue with the price of cable going up a few dollars. It hasn't really increased in a few years, yet a considerable number of new stations have been added in the past year or two. They have to be paid for somehow.

Remember.. inflation is about 2-3%. If you have a cable bill of $100 (arguably high, but not unreasonable if you have digital cable with all the stations), that means that the price should be going up $2-3 every year, even without the addition of new stations / services.

Bell is not a better alternative to Rogers, it's the same shit in different wrapping. Both companies are trying to monopolize the internet/tv markets. Choose either and you lose! It's simply a matter of choosing the best of the worst.

For someone who said that HSE is 'better' than Rogers, lets consider some facts about DSL.

1) The quality of your service is highly dependant on the quality of your phone line. Thus if you live in a shitty neighborhood with shitty lines you'll get shitty services.

2) Distance from server also dictates how fast your service is.

3) Whether your live in a building or house. You'll get distruptions if you live in a building and someone buzzes you from downstairs, nice!

4) # of phones in your residence also dictates service quality, the more you have, the more filters you need to install.

So, either you choose to go with Satan or Lucifer, in the end you are still paying the devil.

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