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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur Not so pleasant for the taxi driver! Har har har.

yeeeeeeeee!

too soon!

Nikitha

stupidest connection evar.. what if it was a pr0n DVD instead ?

yeah .. TITS killed them.

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Originally posted by Nikitha yeeeeeeeee! too soon! Nikitha

It's never too soon!

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Originally posted by VERTiG0 It's never too soon!

Cale makes me want to go double fisting.

I blame my drunkeness on Cale.

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Originally posted by dEsidEL stupidest connection evar.. what if it was a pr0n DVD instead ? yeah .. TITS killed them.

That's a good way to go!

We've all done stupid things when we first got our licence, or been in cars with people who have. Young people do stupid stuff, its part of growing up. They make stupid decisions sometimes, not always thinking of what could happen, they just do it. So many just want to fly around in there cars.

The best thing to do, open up more places where they can actually race, like drag strips, that sorta thing. Then they can actually race and its legal, they get accurate times too, and its way more fun! I just went last summer with a few friends, and it was hilarious and fun haha.

The first people we need to blame are the parents. They need to be held responsible for their children's behaviour. I will bet you anything that parents knew about their kids' drag-racing on the streets (come on, what kind of Dad wouldn't know that about his son), and still them them use the Benz.. WTF? Bad parenting!

Second, blame the kids themselves. Yes, at 18 we were all still idiots (pretty much).. But not idiots enough to be doing 140 on the street with 60 limit. If nothing else, you get caught by police doing this, that's an automatic license suspension + court date. Especially around the area as nice as Mt. Pleasant. Thus both kids deserve some jail time.

That's about it. Games, shmames.. Boys will be boys. We'll have our cars, girls, gyms, etc.. Life has been this way forever, it will be this way forever.

-Roman

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Originally posted by Skipper Blaming the video game shifts the accountability from the drivers to the game. Not a good way to teach teenagers that they need to take responsibility for their actions. Street racing, as others have said, is not a product of today's video games.

+1!

Video racing games have been around for years.
The fact that the Toronto Star's reports gives a one liner about the video game in the car is a social misnomer.
They should pay for their actions and accept the responsibility of real life.
What kind of example would be set otherwise??

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Originally posted by E2EK1EL Do you think it's possible that this happen b/c of Need for Speed (game) ?

I dont know if the video game was to blame or not. But what happened was so, so sad. The cabbie was going to become a Canadian Citizen the next day and boom! He dies! Wow what Irony, he came to Canada for a better life and the day before he was about to, he dies.


What kinda trips me out about this story is- Yea these 2 kids were racing/driving around 140 km/h, right... but didn't the cabbie see these cars gunning down the street when he was turning? Like how can u not notice 2 cars speeding ur way before turning onto that street?

Your thoughts..

Mt Pleasant is a little bit hilly and windy where they hit .. not too likely that he could see much.

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Originally posted by thesauce23 What kinda trips me out about this story is- Yea these 2 kids were racing/driving around 140 km/h, right... but didn't the cabbie see these cars gunning down the street when he was turning? Like how can u not notice 2 cars speeding ur way before turning onto that street? Your thoughts..

No.
I live about 200-300 feet from there and take it just about everyday; it's definately a horrible intersection, but nothing you can do.
When coming from that direction (downhill, south-bound on Mt.Pleasant) you really have to be careful because of the hill and corner; it obstructs the view of oncoming cars.
That poor cabbie never had a chance because of the speed the kids were doing.
Hell I gun it to do that turn when people are doing the speed limit! I can't image the cabbie could have done anything but brace himself...

i dont blame video games...

i blame hip hop! LOL

No but seriously.... as was mentioned earlier im sure that the game had something to do with their personality rather than being the sole cause of their actions. Might it have influenced them a bit? Maybe, but if thats the case then a picture of Jacques Villeneuve may have done the same. But youd never hear the idea of indy racing or formula one racing influencing a kids behaviour make news because old middle aged people generally tend to enjoy these sports whereas there is a scare factor with video games because most middle aged people dont play them. The media feeds off of middle america (and middle canada) ignorance. And As sophisticated as toronto people think they are, they are very much middle of the road canadians in every sense of the term.

Im pretty sure racing games didn't make up their entire collection.
I agree with most of you, it's dumb blaming video games when clearly the driver is an adult by 18.

I wouldn't necessarily blame bad parenting for not knowing their kids are racing their cars in the middle of the night, however it is a bad idea to allow them to drive a Mercedez at such a young age. With power comes great responsibility... Good call spiderman's dead grandfather.

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Originally posted by ++ EGO ++ I wouldn't necessarily blame bad parenting for not knowing their kids are racing their cars in the middle of the night, however it is a bad idea to allow them to drive a Mercedez at such a young age. With power comes great responsibility... Good call spiderman's dead grandfather.

Same arguement I used at work.
Two 18 year old guys with a high-end Mercedes...what could go wrong?

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r Two 18 year old guys with a high-end Mercedes...what could go wrong?

They could not get laid?

Stop this Mercedes bullshit. You can go 140 in a Civic too.

2 Rich kids driving mommy and daddy's stock benzes decide they want to speed thru busy residential areas. Suddenly they are labeled street racers and get thrown into the same category as car enthusiasts.
The media blows it up, Police targets modified cars because of this(even though the cars were stock), and while the're busy ticketing modified cars, people get shot, people get robbed, raped, drunk drivers kill some people, but that's not nearly as important as pulling over a car with an aftermarket exhaust.
You gotta love it

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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur Stop this Mercedes bullshit. You can go 140 in a Civic too.

1) You can reach the speeds in a high performance car much faster, without as much effort.

2) The speed sensation is very different in a luxury car than it is in a Civic. Driving at 100kmh in my mom's lexus, feels like I am going 50-60kmh. Wind noise, road vibrations, engine noise are all lowered due to increased sound insulation and smooth drive trains.

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Originally posted by Orko 1) You can reach the speeds in a high performance car much faster, without as much effort. 2) The speed sensation is very different in a luxury car than it is in a Civic. Driving at 100kmh in my mom's lexus, feels like I am going 50-60kmh. Wind noise, road vibrations, engine noise are all lowered due to increased sound insulation and smooth drive trains.

right on, thats the basis of it.

i think id be more likely to drive faster in a higher end vehicle than in the chrysler neon, but thats just me.

but this is also in the context of them being young drivers and having that particular car to drive will cause more of a 'show-off' influence.

why is everyone saying "they shouldn't have let them have the benz". regardless of what car it is, you can get up to that speed and race. you've seen it with civics, cavaliers, shit boxes that shouldnt be on the road, nice cars, it really doesnt matter. have an acura integra with a muffler and they will still race and think its souped up. obviously the benz is much faster, but really it doesnt matter what car it is, the kids will go fast with whatever car. in my own city, i've seen people doing at LEAST 160KM/H in a fackin 60KM/H zone! not even lieing, it was fuckin crazy, and it was a shitty cavalier like I have. benz or no benz, they would have still tryed to race whatever car they had their hands on is my point.

stop being so naive. you cant tell me when you were 17, you didnt know someone that booked it around like crazy in a shit car, maybe it was even yourself. the kids are going to do it weither they can hear wind noise or not. i remember in grade 11 my friends friend, he did 180km/h in a pontiac bonneville on a country road. its no fackin benz.

the talk about showing off more, well maybe, but who are they showing off to on a road with no one on it, except his friend and him? also, kids try to show off with a stock integra, just like they would if they have a luxury car. either way they try to show off.

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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur Stop this Mercedes bullshit. You can go 140 in a Civic too.

Apples and oranges.
I'm sure you can do 160 in a Corolla 323 too but that's not the point at all.
They did it because they thought they could.
I'm sure if they were in the standard Civic the thought wouldn't have crossed their mind as much as their standard high-end Benz.
Don't get me wrong, I love Benzes but you have to be responsible when driving a couple classes up.

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r I love Benzes but you have to be responsible when driving a couple classes up.

this is the point, at that age, they still arnt responsible when driving ANY car really. they will still do stupid stuff while driving, regardless of what car it is. in winter, how many times do you see kids pulling e-brakes in the snow, facking around. spinning tires and then racing at the lights with someone? all the time! they are young, things like this will always happen when theres young drivers

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Originally posted by Playa24_7 this is the point, at that age, they still arnt responsible when driving ANY car really

True, and moreso if you decide to do something idoitic like they did.

^^ very true. i'm not saying every kid is as stupid as these two, but we all did SOMETHING stupid when we first got our licence, its just what we do when were young and stupid.

my step moms friend, just two blocks away in a residental area from where i live. she was at a 3 way stop, she could turn left or right. she turned left and boom, got clipped on the back end, spun her van around and it flipped over. she had two of her kids in the van and one she was babysitting. guess what was happening?? the two guys, 17 and 18, were racing! on a residental road, side by side. she didnt see them, i dont know why, i guess you wouldnt expect that or something, but she didnt, and got hit and flipped over. it was in the papers and stuff here like last year. i forget what happend to them, but they cant get their licences for like 10 years or something like that.

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Originally posted by Playa24_7 why is everyone saying "they shouldn't have let them have the benz". regardless of what car it is, you can get up to that speed and race. you've seen it with civics, cavaliers, shit boxes that shouldnt be on the road, nice cars, it really doesnt matter. have an acura integra with a muffler and they will still race and think its souped up. obviously the benz is much faster, but really it doesnt matter what car it is, the kids will go fast with whatever car. in my own city, i've seen people doing at LEAST 160KM/H in a fackin 60KM/H zone! not even lieing, it was fuckin crazy, and it was a shitty cavalier like I have. benz or no benz, they would have still tryed to race whatever car they had their hands on is my point. stop being so naive. you cant tell me when you were 17, you didnt know someone that booked it around like crazy in a shit car, maybe it was even yourself. the kids are going to do it weither they can hear wind noise or not. i remember in grade 11 my friends friend, he did 180km/h in a pontiac bonneville on a country road. its no fackin benz. the talk about showing off more, well maybe, but who are they showing off to on a road with no one on it, except his friend and him? also, kids try to show off with a stock integra, just like they would if they have a luxury car. either way they try to show off.

Thanks for elaborating on what I was saying originally. I didn't have the effort to type all that out, lol, Fridays are exhausting.

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