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Posted by Psygnosis on Feb-02-2006 22:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Lepanto
How much oil is actually used for "other household items"? Not a significant lot. Besides the fact that you can make toothpase, which also has "oil" in it out of other ingredients also defeats your pathetic argument.


Actually, quite alot of objects around the house, don't have time to waste on your pathetic sized brain, i'll let you research it.

Again, you still haven't had anything positive put out. No need to angry, don't want you to waste that few brain cells you still got up there.

only toothpaste!? hah, yet again, it shows how wrong you always are.


Posted by skot_e on Feb-03-2006 00:03:

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The oil refining process starts with a fractional distillation column.


Different hydrocarbon chain lengths all have progressively higher boiling points, so they can all be separated by distillation. This is what happens in an oil refinery - in one part of the process, crude oil is heated and the different chains are pulled out by their vaporization temperatures. Each different chain length has a different property that makes it useful in a different way.

To understand the diversity contained in crude oil, and to understand why refining crude oil is so important in our society, look through the following list of products that come from crude oil:

* Petroleum gas - used for heating, cooking, making plastics
* small alkanes (1 to 4 carbon atoms)
* commonly known by the names methane, ethane, propane, butane
* boiling range = less than 104 degrees Fahrenheit / 40 degrees Celsius
* often liquified under pressure to create LPG (liquified petroleum gas)
* Naphtha or Ligroin - intermediate that will be further processed to make gasoline
* mix of 5 to 9 carbon atom alkanes
* boiling range = 140 to 212 degrees Fahrenheit / 60 to 100 degrees Celsius
* Gasoline - motor fuel
* liquid
* mix of alkanes and cycloalkanes (5 to 12 carbon atoms)
* boiling range = 104 to 401 degrees Fahrenheit / 40 to 205 degrees Celsius
* Kerosene - fuel for jet engines and tractors; starting material for making other products
* liquid
* mix of alkanes (10 to 18 carbons) and aromatics
* boiling range = 350 to 617 degrees Fahrenheit / 175 to 325 degrees Celsius
* Gas oil or Diesel distillate - used for diesel fuel and heating oil; starting material for making other products
* liquid
* alkanes containing 12 or more carbon atoms
* boiling range = 482 to 662 degrees Fahrenheit / 250 to 350 degrees Celsius
* Lubricating oil - used for motor oil, grease, other lubricants
* liquid
* long chain (20 to 50 carbon atoms) alkanes, cycloalkanes, aromatics
* boiling range = 572 to 700 degrees Fahrenheit / 300 to 370 degrees Celsius
* Heavy gas or Fuel oil - used for industrial fuel; starting material for making other products
* liquid
* long chain (20 to 70 carbon atoms) alkanes, cycloalkanes, aromatics
* boiling range = 700 to 1112 degrees Fahrenheit / 370 to 600 degrees Celsius
* Residuals - coke, asphalt, tar, waxes; starting material for making other products
* solid
* multiple-ringed compounds with 70 or more carbon atoms
* boiling range = greater than 1112 degrees Fahrenheit / 600 degrees Celsius

You may have noticed that all of these products have different sizes and boiling ranges. Chemists take advantage of these properties when refining oil. Look at the next section to find out the details of this fascinating process.



Some products:

reosote oil, anthracene oil, carbolic oil, petroleum based aromatic solvents, coal tar pitch and coal tar oil, chlorinated & paraffins oil and other industrial chemicals like monochloro benzene, paradichloro benzene, orthodichloro benzene, orthonitro chlorobenzene, paranitro chloro benzene.
calcium carbonate, titanioum dioxide, plasticizers, eva, wax, middle chrome pigments.

note 'platicizers' - i.e. many house hold products...


Posted by Lepanto on Feb-03-2006 00:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Psygnosis
Actually, quite alot of objects around the house, don't have time to waste on your pathetic sized brain, i'll let you research it.

Again, you still haven't had anything positive put out. No need to angry, don't want you to waste that few brain cells you still got up there.

only toothpaste!? hah, yet again, it shows how wrong you always are.


Yet you keep sitting there and replying. Reason you can't give an answer is the fact that you DON'T KNOW! I know that alot of household items contain processed oil yet the first and foremost that I could think of the top of my head was toothpaste. Talk about being stupid and uneducated, not only can you NOT form sentences, but you can't form coherent thoughts, reason or even paragraphs. You also repeat the insignificant point you're trying to make


Posted by skot_e on Feb-03-2006 01:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Lepanto
How much oil is actually used for "other household items"? Not a significant lot.


Very next post:
quote:

I know that alot of household items contain processed oil yet the first and foremost that I could think of the top of my head was toothpaste.


Talk about being stupid and uneducated,


Dude, if you can't put a constructive argument forward, instead of constantly trying to insult other posters, don't say ANYTHING. it just wastes my time and everyone elses. Though I have worked out if you post, to just skip reading it.


Posted by Lepanto on Feb-03-2006 03:18:

quote:
Originally posted by skot_e


Very next post was to redicule an idiot's reply, who is apperantly your buddy who you cannot help but defend.

So, let me just skip ahead and...

http://www.commodityseasonals.com/oil_futures.htm

What a Barrel of Crude Oil Makes



Product


Gallons per Barrel

Gasoline


19.5

Distillate Fuel Oil

(includes both home heating oil & diesel)




9.2

Kerosene-type Jet Fuel


4.1

Residual Fuel Oil

(heavy oils used as fuels in industry, marine transport and electric power generation)




2.3

Liquefied Refinery Gases


1.9

Still Gas


1.9

Coke


1.8

Asphalt and Road Oil


1.3

Petrochemical Feedstock


1.2

Lubricants


0.5

Kerosene


0.2

Other


0.3

Figures are based on 1995 average yields for US refineries. One barrel of oil contains 42 gallons. Excess due to "processing gain"


a bit outdated but still makes sense.


some more

Overview

Oil provides about 40 percent of the energy Americans consume and roughly 97 percent of our transportation fuels. Oil is at the crux of the modern economic system, and its importance should not be discounted. Besides meeting almost half of our total energy needs and the lion's share of America's transportation fuel needs, the oil industry employs almost one and a half million people in the United States. Not only is Oil, in one form or another, used to heat our homes and fuel our vehicles, petroleum-based products can be found in a variety of everyday household items, including deodorant, toothpaste, paints, balloons, perfumes and cosmetics.

So, yeah obviously we are dying for oil to make waterbaloons and perfume out of it. Clearly nothing else could be used for these things. lol

So if you change your heating/energy dependancy and transportation dependancy from crude oil to alternatives you save billions of dollars since about 10 percent of all oil is actually used on "misc." items and you quit being dependant on a region that speaks for itself.

Why you'd want to protect them is beyond me.


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