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Posted by vadushka!!! on Feb-12-2006 23:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Grekos24
Finally we're getting somewhere except for your first sentence!!!!!!I admit i came too strong dissing on your favorite style of music!!! !!!!!The term EDM is totally misconstrued nowadays imo because its very general!!!!You can't possibly like every genre of EDM but thats me!!!I exclusively listen and follow trance and progressive(more towards the trancey progressive)and some techno for about 9 years now.Maybe because i don't follow as closely some of the other genres of EDM and because the style that i like does not get the exposure that i would like it to get in this city led me to say the things that i did.I din't mean to offend and disrespect nobody' taste of music,i just expressed my opinion. I was just pissed off that a lot of people didn't show up for this great event.

don't be dissing on my favorite style of music yo!!!!

genres, sub genres, sub-sub genres and the digital age = the grim reaper

Posted by DJ Eco on Feb-12-2006 23:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Konijn
what are you on about? this is a patently ridiculous statement lol.

and +1 to swampy's comment on the the housecrews' inferiority complex -- it's amazing how tranceheads rarely feel the need to troll other forums and act as carnival barkers for their genre...

nightlife and club life is so widespread in (most of) Europe, whether youre from the big cities or the small towns, theres always clubs that every person 16-30 goes to, its such a big part of the culture there... compare that to the average non-metropolitan-area who, if asked what "techno" music they know, would mockingly sing "sandstorm" and throw out a mocking display of nonexistent rave skills and then mention something about drugs or drug music.... thats the average American's response to electronic music.... even in the cities, theres so much rock everywhere, even they have a disdain and ignorance toward us, because our "music is made with computers" and thus isnt real music.... our country as a whole is very very very close-minded to electronic music.... look at the Olympic ceremomonies in Athens two years ago with Tiesto, and also look at the Olympic ceremony two nights ago in Torino with a majority of the music having been produced by Richie Hawtin (whoops haha).... nuff said.

Posted by vadushka!!! on Feb-12-2006 23:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Swamper
How about you like listening to what you like and leave it at that? So lame.

agreed

quote:
Originally posted by Konijn
what are you on about? this is a patently ridiculous statement lol.

and +1 to swampy's comment on the the housecrews' inferiority complex -- it's amazing how tranceheads rarely feel the need to troll other forums and act as carnival barkers for their genre...

Theres a house crew? How does one become a member?

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Posted by vadushka!!! on Feb-12-2006 23:29:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Eco
nightlife and club life is so widespread in (most of) Europe, whether youre from the big cities or the small towns, theres always clubs that every person 16-30 goes to, its such a big part of the culture there... compare that to the average non-metropolitan-area who, if asked what "techno" music they know, would mockingly sing "sandstorm" and throw out a mocking display of nonexistent rave skills and then mention something about drugs or drug music.... thats the average American's response to electronic music.... even in the cities, theres so much rock everywhere, even they have a disdain and ignorance toward us, because our "music is made with computers" and thus isnt real music.... our country as a whole is very very very close-minded to electronic music.... look at the Olympic ceremomonies in Athens two years ago with Tiesto, and also look at the Olympic ceremony two nights ago in Torino with a majority of the music having been produced by Sven Vath.... nuff said.

Hawtin dude...not Vath

Posted by Grekos24 on Feb-12-2006 23:29:

quote:
Originally posted by vadushka!!!
don't be dissing on my favorite style of music yo!!!!

genres, sub genres, sub-sub genres and the digital age = the grim reaper

malakas,pio malakas,malakismenos!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by DJ Eco on Feb-12-2006 23:29:

Posted by DJ Eco on Feb-12-2006 23:32:

quote:
Originally posted by vadushka!!!
Hawtin dude...not Vath

played Avalon last March

Posted by vadushka!!! on Feb-12-2006 23:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Grekos24
malakas,pio malakas,malakismenos!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Translation_
Me like ass, I like ass, Me like man ass!!!!!!!!

Sorry man don't go that way.

Posted by vadushka!!! on Feb-12-2006 23:36:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Eco
played Avalon last March

nah...music at the opening ceremonies was courtesy of Hawtin

Posted by Groundhog Boy on Feb-12-2006 23:39:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Eco
played Avalon last March

Vath refused to play at that gig and Judge Jules had to play all night, right? I was in Miami for WMC, but I heard about it

Posted by DJ Eco on Feb-12-2006 23:42:

quote:
Originally posted by vadushka!!!
nah...music at the opening ceremonies was courtesy of Hawtin

hahah oooooh yeah, whoops, totally slipped on that one, yeah ur def right, it was Hawtin, sorry botu that

Posted by DJ Eco on Feb-12-2006 23:43:

quote:
Originally posted by vadushka!!!
Translation_
Me like ass, I like ass, Me like man ass!!!!!!!!

Sorry man don't go that way.

hahaha i was thinkin the same thing when i read that

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Posted by Konijn on Feb-12-2006 23:46:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Eco
even on Clubplanet, they feel a need to attack trance music.... youd think Clubplanet is made up of more n00bs and new kids to the scene too.... hrmmm... makes u think!

the post i quoted said 'music' not 'edm' -- if we're speaking of just dance music, then yes, europe and asia are certainly more receptive to it than the u.s. for a variety of reasons.

and as far as cp is concerned, the ny board is a joke and has been for some time; i'd even put njguido above the ny section of cp in terms of quality, so anything chortled out of that site i use to clean the bottom of my shoe off.

Posted by Grekos24 on Feb-12-2006 23:54:

Eco i don't think the venue was the problem!!!!!ask some of the people that were there and they'll tell you that it wasn't that bad!!!!!I gotta let the people who organized the event explain what happened. They put a lot into it but they got screwed. I'll let them give you the details!!All i can say is that because picotto cancelled at crobar they saw it as an opportunity for more people to come to the party, but didn't happen cause everybody went to Love.

Posted by DJ Eco on Feb-12-2006 23:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Konijn
the post i quoted said 'music' not 'edm' -- if we're speaking of just dance music, then yes, europe and asia are certainly more receptive to it than the u.s. for a variety of reasons.

and as far as cp is concerned, the ny board is a joke and has been for some time; i'd even put njguido above the ny section of cp in terms of quality, so anything chortled out of that site i use to clean the bottom of my shoe off.

well, i did mean EDM, but now that were at the topic of it, some of the countries ive been to, i can argue that they appreciate music for what it is more than we do... ill use Italy as my main talking point (and lets assume its the same in at least France, Italy, Belgium, and Germany).... when you look at whos popular in Italy, sure they have their pop scene, but theyre very traditional and loyal to the artists they love.... where else can you have Pavarotti sing at the Olympics? where else do over 50 and over 60 people sell more albums than American pop singers do (singers like Zucchero, Vasco Rossi, Al Bano, i can go on)... its not a "chew them up and spit them out" pop scene like we have here in America... kids over there dont hear a classical guitar solo, or opera, or classic Italian rock, and call it garbage, they realize it as part of their heritage and culture... maybe its the fact that our country doesnt really have its own identity, we dont have music thats distinctly American, we have white vocalists singing over hip hop instrumentals (obviously not white music but black music for the most part) or artsts like Shakira singing over god knows what... theres no music we have that we know is OURS and only OURS, so weve been brought up to like OUR musical tastes and hate on every1 else's.... thats just the way i look at it...

Posted by Grekos24 on Feb-12-2006 23:58:

Posted by DJ Eco on Feb-12-2006 23:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Grekos24
Eco i don't think the venue was the problem!!!!!ask some of the people that were there and they'll tell you that it wasn't that bad!!!!!I gotta let the people who organized the event explain what happened. They put a lot into it but they got screwed. I'll let them give you the details!!All i can say is that because picotto cancelled at crobar they saw it as an opportunity for more people to come to the party, but didn't happen cause everybody went to Love.

well, i didnt really see any flyers or posters or anything outside of Trance Addict.... maybe its not the venue per se, but places like Crobar or Spirit or Avalon can afford to send people out handing flyers or posting up throughout the city, or advertising on Clubplanet, or sending out newsletters, thats all im sayin dont forget, clubs like these also work in collaboration with guestlists and large scale promotions...

Posted by Grekos24 on Feb-13-2006 00:04:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Eco
well, i didnt really see any flyers or posters or anything outside of Trance Addict.... maybe its not the venue per se, but places like Crobar or Spirit or Avalon can afford to send people out handing flyers or posting up throughout the city, or advertising on Clubplanet, or sending out newsletters, thats all im sayin dont forget, clubs like these also work in collaboration with guestlists and large scale promotions...

Thats where they got screwed!!!!!The owner promised to do the email blast for them 3 or 4 days before the event but he did it the day of the event a few hours before it started!!!!!!!

Posted by DJ Eco on Feb-13-2006 00:08:

dammm that is pretty bad... a lot of the time, i know it sounds dumb, but Myspace and email newsletters really really really pull heads to the clubs.... if i didnt belong to TA, i wouldnt have known at all... well, lets hope theres a next time, Jon's a great guy and a great DJ!

Posted by Grekos24 on Feb-13-2006 00:12:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Eco
dammm that is pretty bad... a lot of the time, i know it sounds dumb, but Myspace and email newsletters really really really pull heads to the clubs.... if i didnt belong to TA, i wouldnt have known at all... well, lets hope theres a next time, Jon's a great guy and a great DJ!

Very underrated dj indeed!!!!He played an awesome set!!!!

Posted by vadushka!!! on Feb-13-2006 00:21:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Eco
maybe its the fact that our country doesnt really have its own identity, we dont have music thats distinctly American

I agree with you on this statement if and only if you are talking about todays music. This countries music history is VERY rich. Unfortunately, talent taking a backseat to image coupled with the major labels, radio and MTV force feeding the masses whatever is "hot" has put a huge dent in that rich history.

Posted by DJ TRACE on Feb-13-2006 00:24:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Grekos24
I'm sick and tired with new york being all about that gay ass house shit.

ha I totally agree

Posted by InterMilan31 on Feb-13-2006 00:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Swamper
Why is it always a competition between the two.. sometimes I feel househeads have a complex and have to talk shit about Trance any chance they get.

How about you like listening to what you like and leave it at that? So lame.

Also, on the front of music appreciation - I will agree that the culture in many European countries is much more open to dance music in comparison to North America... Over here most people have no idea what 'Dance' music is - and all EDM is 'Techno'.

it was a joke swampy! i listen to all genres of edm i just love instigating

Posted by DJ Skillz on Feb-13-2006 00:57:

I would like to thank all the TA's that came through to support Jon & the Obey The Night Crew! Jon, Dave and I really do appreciate it!I just want to point out that it is sad to say that the trance scene in NYC is not as supportive of the great DJ's like Jon O'Bir. He played an awesome set and a lot of people missed out! WHAT'S GOING ON IN NYC! I remember people saying how he ripped it 2 years ago @ Ikon when PVD was doing NYE. Me and Dave tried to put this event together because we recognized Jon's talents and wanted to share that with NYC. When he was @ 114 in Philly, people came out and represented. When he was in LA the week before at Heaven, people came out and packed the place. Obey The Night wants to keep bringing GREAT talents like O'Bir to NYC so that people have something different to see, but we need the peoples' support. I'm not trying to talk down to anyone, nor dis anyone. I just want this city to unify and represent the music we all Love because it is hard in this city to throw a party when City gov't try to shut down small parties, classifies raves solely as a place to distribute drugs like if they where crack houses. That's not what we're about! But again the people have to come out and support so that the next show can be better. With out you there is no show!

There is one thing I would definitely point out, I always get alot of people who like house music dis trance. I really don't understand why! Music is music. The same way there are different races of people on this planet, there are different styles of music! I do see alot of websites & magazines dissing trance. It's just not fair! But that is why we need to support Trance DJ's, Artists, and organizations that promote it! We need to improve the state of the scene in order for it to survive!!!!!

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