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Posted by xstalkrx on Mar-20-2006 06:01:

Does the CDJ-800 play VBR tracks? If I have a VBR mp3 file, then use my Nero to burn it to a CD, (which im guessing is then turning the file into audio format, or .wav) will the CDJ-800 be able to play it? Or does the mp3 need to be CBR only?


Posted by on Mar-20-2006 07:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Wisnia
The cdj-200 are flimsy, and feel like they will break on you any second. They do have mp3 and 0.02 pitch cause it just came out (the new cdj800 mk2 will have all that).


The new 800 will NOT have 0.02 pitch control.. I picked up 2 CDJ200's yesterday.. They are great units. I find they are built well(not like the 1000's, but still really good).

The 200's don't have the Hot Cue feature of the 1000's, or the Loop Buttons like on the 800, but it does have a couple handy onboard effects, Seamless beat looping functions, MP3/WAV support.. However, make note that the 200's do NOT support VBR MP3's.. I found that out lastnight.. Its not a big deal, I can purchase 320kbit CBR mp3's. You can't scratch on the 200's like you can on the 800/1000's, but then again, scratching isn't a big thing when you are a trance DJ IMO..


Posted by Sh!fty on Mar-20-2006 08:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Munchy
No it doesn't...

It turns it into a CD cue...

Try copy/pasting a song off a burnt audio CD and see what it gives you


Wrong, they will be converted into wav, and it's called encrypted wav's, that's why you can't copy paste songs from an audio cd.
Same thing with movie dvd: They are all mpeg2 files, but decoded mpeg's.
And most dvd players don't suport normal mpeg files as well


Posted by skip on Mar-20-2006 08:19:

quote:
Originally posted by xstalkrx
Does the CDJ-800 play VBR tracks? If I have a VBR mp3 file, then use my Nero to burn it to a CD, (which im guessing is then turning the file into audio format, or .wav) will the CDJ-800 be able to play it? Or does the mp3 need to be CBR only?



oh man! you're either very misguided or a troll. anyway, if you can convert the audio to wav then you can play it on ANY cd player in the world, it doesn't matter what the source file is. and if you can burn it as audio on nero, you can play it with any cd player in the world! get it?


Posted by Xtracktor on Mar-20-2006 10:35:

quote:
Originally posted by skip
oh man! you're either very misguided or a troll. anyway, if you can convert the audio to wav then you can play it on ANY cd player in the world, it doesn't matter what the source file is. and if you can burn it as audio on nero, you can play it with any cd player in the world! get it?


What about just curious?

I hear the cdj 200 cannot play vbr mp3s burned to cd (not cd audio format, but in mp3 format) very well.


Posted by Ryan0751 on Mar-20-2006 11:34:

MP3 support is really unneccessary in any case, just burn audio cd's and you'll be better off.
What if you play out and all your cd's are MP3 cd's?

quote:
Originally posted by Xtracktor
What about just curious?

I hear the cdj 200 cannot play vbr mp3s burned to cd (not cd audio format, but in mp3 format) very well.


Posted by Xtracktor on Mar-20-2006 11:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Ryan0751
MP3 support is really unneccessary in any case, just burn audio cd's and you'll be better off.
What if you play out and all your cd's are MP3 cd's?


You bet! It was just theoretical question, personally from owning an mp3 cd player in my car, I have noticed one TINY scratch on the cd easily chops into many mp3 tracks.

As for me, I am still in the process of converting my vinyl to digital, burning them all as audio cds.


Posted by T-Soma on Mar-20-2006 12:35:

This reminds me to ask... does anyone else have the problem of burnt dvds being ruined too easily. Whenever i burn stuff to a dvd the disk gets ruined to easily. I think my drive was ruining it but iv noticed that because more data in the same amount of area means scratches have greater impact, like with mp3s on cdrs.


Posted by on Mar-20-2006 15:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Xtracktor
I hear the cdj 200 cannot play vbr mp3s burned to cd (not cd audio format, but in mp3 format) very well.


It will play them fine, however you are not able to scan the track being played or cue it up. It basically only plays.

It does say right in the manual that VBR is not supported.


Posted by Pinokio on Mar-20-2006 16:00:

For a Trance, Progressive DJ
I think the CDJ-200 are the best for their price and what they offer

I think the CDJ-800 are worse than the CDJ-200 for a trance DJ, you don�t need scracth, the only better thing it has are the loops, but the pitch Accuracy is worse, and it has no effects.

I tried the Cdj-1000 at a club, and the better things they have over the 200 is the sampler and the loops, but I don't know if it's correct to pay $700 more just for the loops and sampler.
it's just overpriced in my opinion.

My mixer is a vestax pcv-275, and it has no effects, so if you are gonna ge t amixer with no effects I prefer using the cdj-200 over the CDj-1000, specially for the Wah (That I actually use it as a filter tomake smooth transitions).


Posted by xstalkrx on Mar-20-2006 23:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Pinokio
For a Trance, Progressive DJ
I think the CDJ-200 are the best for their price and what they offer

I think the CDJ-800 are worse than the CDJ-200 for a trance DJ, you don�t need scracth, the only better thing it has are the loops, but the pitch Accuracy is worse, and it has no effects.

I tried the Cdj-1000 at a club, and the better things they have over the 200 is the sampler and the loops, but I don't know if it's correct to pay $700 more just for the loops and sampler.
it's just overpriced in my opinion.

My mixer is a vestax pcv-275, and it has no effects, so if you are gonna ge t amixer with no effects I prefer using the cdj-200 over the CDj-1000, specially for the Wah (That I actually use it as a filter tomake smooth transitions).


the CDJ-800 has VINYL mode...which is a big plus. The CDJ-200 does NOT have this feature. Vinyl mode makes it much easier to cue up tracks.


Posted by on Mar-21-2006 00:07:

quote:
Originally posted by xstalkrx
Vinyl mode makes it much easier to cue up tracks.


How do you figure that?? I had no problems cueing up the first time I ever used the CDJ200s. you pause it at the first beat, pull or push it back a bit, and press cue.. DONE and DONE.


Posted by Ryan0751 on Mar-21-2006 00:10:

Vinyl mode is def. nice for cueing, you can "ride" over a beat just like, well, vinyl.
I hate stutter mode.
quote:
Originally posted by J:\Digital
How do you figure that?? I had no problems cueing up the first time I ever used the CDJ200s. you pause it at the first beat, pull or push it back a bit, and press cue.. DONE and DONE.


Posted by simms327 on Mar-21-2006 03:08:

quote:
Originally posted by xstalkrx
the CDJ-800 has VINYL mode...which is a big plus. The CDJ-200 does NOT have this feature. Vinyl mode makes it much easier to cue up tracks.


yeah it does, it makes it SO much easier. i have a cdj800 and a cdj100, and cueing on the cdj800 is a dream compared to the 100.

the 100 is in the process of being replaced by another 800 as we speak.


Posted by Axolotyl on Mar-21-2006 03:17:

Seriously, how is cueing up a track in stutter mode remotely difficult? Even the most retarded of DJs could do it in a second. The CDJ200's even compensate for people who cant set their cue points properly but placing it slightly before the beat so you actually get it before the attack of the kick.

Sorry, the 800's pitch resolution just turns me off and the scratch mode is essentially useless if you mix trance. Sure it looks sexy if thats what important to you, but the 200's get my vote.


Posted by T-Soma on Mar-21-2006 03:25:

When i started out and didnt have a clue. Stutter cue was easier because you can hear exactly where you are but after using vinyl i instantly prefered scratch cue. Right now... who cares. If you have problems lining up the first beat of a song you got bigger things to worry about then what mode your in!


Posted by simms327 on Mar-21-2006 03:34:

what you say is true

however i managed to get used CDJ800s for less than new CDJ200s, and the vinyl mode does make it easier for brand new n00b DJs - like me!!


Posted by xstalkrx on Mar-22-2006 05:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Axolotyl
Seriously, how is cueing up a track in stutter mode remotely difficult? Even the most retarded of DJs could do it in a second. The CDJ200's even compensate for people who cant set their cue points properly but placing it slightly before the beat so you actually get it before the attack of the kick.

Sorry, the 800's pitch resolution just turns me off and the scratch mode is essentially useless if you mix trance. Sure it looks sexy if thats what important to you, but the 200's get my vote.


didn't say difficult...just MUCH easier.


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