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Posted by tathi on Feb-24-2006 01:56:

i'm not the melodramatic type


Posted by MiSSyM on Feb-24-2006 02:19:

ROFL more the 'below par' type hey Tathi!



Posted by JayKuE on Feb-24-2006 02:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Renegade
It's not the male that has to carry the fetus for nine months - why should he get any input?

(So start the big, shit-flinging abortion debate.... now!)


perhaps after the mere "9 month" role of being a carrier, the 18 year haul begins - in which case, guess who's direction she'll be looking to for a great deal of support. if not emotionally, indeed financially.

i am pro-choice under controlled accessbility. i'm not fully read on the topic but my irk lies in the abuse of such a substance if made easily available ala vending machine style (i exaggerate). not merely to repeat offenders (who may consolidate the thought of a safe contingency plan - if no contraception is put to practise, or available at the time), but to those who may use it as an accomplice for malicious behavior. spiked drinks, spiked food, used ass threats by a spiteful husband or a jealous ex boyfriend. as immoral as it all sounds, shit like that happens. but hey, i guess like a knife, rat poison, or a carrier of aids - it's not the tool, but the morality of the person who subjects it use.


Posted by Psygnosis on Feb-24-2006 02:36:

quote:
Originally posted by MiSSyM
Good topic Nazicism



Im sorry but that comment sounds really STUPID & UN EDUCATED!

I believe a woman should have the opportunity to decide what she wants
to do
with her life.

Although I am strongly AGAINST girls who continually have un-protected
sex &
who have many abortions! To girls who think its OK to have sex, get
pregnant
then just have an abortion without any remorse, absolutely DISGUST me!

To any girl who consents in having sex, whether it be protected or not, YOU SHOULD ALWAYS TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILTY IN KNOWING THAT THERE IS A CHANCE YOU MIGHT FALL PREGNANT!

On the otherhand I also believe that bringing a child into this fucked up world may not be in the best interests of the child.
This world is fucked!
What kind of future do we want for our kids?

Not one with war, poverty & famine, hatred, etc.


It's not like any of your posts have any educated merit to them, and this one is no different.

I doubt you would be against it if you were on the brink of struggle to even cope with your life, do you actually think it's right to bring a child into a world of poverty if your unable to even support yourself? Do you think the child should miss out on all the benefits of life such as education?

Thats the problem with people that are opposed to the drug or abortion as a whole like you, you only think it's cruel towards the child, but i say it's cruel bringing the child into your unprepared world.

It should be a choice, if the women wants a abortion, let her have it, what right do you have to tell what to do or not?

And what are you remorsing over when the fetus is young, i never said it was right after one month, and even 3 month should be the limit. After 3 months it should be illegal.


Posted by sunrise3500 on Feb-24-2006 02:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Psygnosis
I doubt you would be against it if you were on the brink of struggle to even cope with your life, do you actually think it's right to bring a child into a world of poverty if your unable to even support yourself? Do you think the child should miss out on all the benefits of life such as education?

There's always adoption,etc for that. But there are still other circumstances where abortion should be an option.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Feb-24-2006 03:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Psygnosis
It's not like any of your posts have any educated merit to them, and this one is no different.

I doubt you would be against it if you were on the brink of struggle to even cope with your life, do you actually think it\\'s right to bring a child into a world of poverty if your unable to even support yourself? Do you think the child should miss out on all the benefits of life such as education?

Thats the problem with people that are opposed to the drug or abortion as a whole like you, you only think it\\'s cruel towards the child, but i say it's cruel bringing the child into your unprepared world.

It should be a choice, if the women wants a abortion, let her have it, what right do you have to tell what to do or not?

And what are you remorsing over when the fetus is young, i never said it was right after one month, and even 3 month should be the limit. After 3 months it should be illegal.


well, id say missym's post was far more balanced and fair than your own. read it again, she says she's more than in favour of women having the choice, but also that people should take responsibility for their actions (fair enough) and not use this pill as a different form of contraception. granted missy's posts are pretty weird & pointless some times, but i dont think she's the congenital idiot some of you think.


Posted by sunrise3500 on Feb-24-2006 03:08:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
but i dont think she's the congenital idiot some of you think.

yeah but no


Posted by Philby on Feb-24-2006 03:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Renegade

It's not the male that has to carry the fetus for nine months - why should he get any input?


because he is partly responsible for the fetus' existance thats why. maybe he wants to be a father? i don't think it would be very fair to not have any input at all in the descision. if the timing and situation isn't right to have a baby i would much rather be able to discuss it with my partner at the time and talk through it instead of just getting "yeah i got pregnant but i got an abortion dont worry".


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Feb-24-2006 03:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Philby
because he is partly responsible for the fetus' existance thats why. maybe he wants to be a father? i don't think it would be very fair to not have any input at all in the descision. if the timing and situation isn't right to have a baby i would much rather be able to discuss it with my partner at the time and talk through it instead of just getting \"yeah i got pregnant but i got an abortion dont worry\".


the father might get a chance to discuss th decision, but the choice is ultimately the womans. but the choice to disclose her pregnancy to her partner is the womans as well. having \"input\" into a decision that solely (physically) effects the woman isnt a right held by the male, and thats as it should be.


Posted by tathi on Feb-24-2006 03:13:

There's a great movie out about a teenager who falls pregnant to her gay boyfriend in an extremely christian fundamentalist town

called "Saved", recommended



quote:
Originally posted by MiSSyM
ROFL more the 'below par' type hey Tathi!



i strive for mediocrity


Posted by MiSSyM on Feb-24-2006 03:14:

quote:
It's not like any of your posts have any educated merit to them, and this one is no different.

I doubt you would be against it if you were on the brink of struggle to even cope with your life, do you actually think it's right to bring a child into a world of poverty if your unable to even support yourself? Do you think the child should miss out on all the benefits of life such as education?

Thats the problem with people that are opposed to the drug or abortion as a whole like you, you only think it's cruel towards the child, but i say it's cruel bringing the child into your unprepared world.

It should be a choice, if the women wants a abortion, let her have it, what right do you have to tell what to do or not?

And what are you remorsing over when the fetus is young, i never said it was right after one month, and even 3 month should be the limit. After 3 months it should be illegal.


First of all THIS is a SERIOUS topic!
Secondly, I never suggested that ANY of my previous posts have been for your educational purposes, neither is half the shit what other people say on this site! FFS ITS ONLY A WEBSITE! A FORUM! A NIGHTLIFE & ENTERTAINMENT FORUM! SOME PEOPLE TAKE IT WAAAAAAAY TOO SERIOUSLY!

The fact of the matter is, is that, that SPECIFIC comment of yours, is very inane! =
quote:
If thats murder, i think they should go criticize all the
friggin
masturbators out there then, they are killing 1 million children in one
hit.


WAS THIS MEANT TO BE A SERIOUS COMMENT OR WHAT?
BECAUSE THERE IS NO LOGIC IN IT WHATSOVER !

LOL OH I FIND IT SO FUNNY WHEN PEOPLE TAKE WHAT I SAY OUT OF CONTEXT!

I NEVER SAID I WAS TOTALLY AGAINST IT, RE-READ WHAT I WROTE & MAYBE YOU'LL UNDERSTAND!

I ALSO SAID THAT=I believe a woman should have the opportunity to decide what she wants to do with her life!

OFCOURSE I REMORSE WITH THE FETUS, HOW CAN I NOT! IT IS STILL A FETUS! A LIVING ONE, RIGHT FROM THE START!

quote:
you only think it's cruel towards the child, but i say it's cruel bringing the child into your unprepared world.

ANOTHER DR.PHIL TRYING TO TELL ME WHAT I THINK!

Psy guy, we actually agree on many points, except for the one I think is inane! Ofcourse its cruel to bring up a child in an unprepared world!
THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THIS SITUATION HAVE NO ONE TO BLAME BUT THEMSELVES! THEY SHOULDNT HAVE PUT THEMSELVES IN THE SITUATION IN THE FIRST PLACE!




Tathi


Posted by Psygnosis on Feb-24-2006 03:15:

Theres no denying that you must take the responsibility, but what i don't agree is that at early stage of pregnancy that you should be stripped with the choice.

I know what you mean, but you must realise that the high level of poverty of people is just not the right time for a child to be brought in, thats all.

Then i guess that statement must be changed to for people that will be able to support then child with proper income, in this case, then it is the responsibility of the parent to take care of the child even if they weren't ready.

So i guess it depends on the persons circumstances that these decisions of abortion should be made, not equally the same for everyone.


quote:
Originally posted by MiSSyM
WAS THIS MEANT TO BE A SERIOUS COMMENT OR WHAT?
BECAUSE THERE IS NO LOGIC IN IT WHATSOVER !


that comment was only meant as a joke towards how one sided the comments become towards very very early pregnancy and that comment made.


Posted by AnitA on Feb-24-2006 03:18:

Too many young hungry sluts out there!

You want cock so bad, and don't protect yourself, then suffer!!


Posted by tathi on Feb-24-2006 03:18:

every time someone makes a post in caps, god aborts a fetus

please think of the fetus's.


Posted by kelsta on Feb-24-2006 03:19:

quote:
Originally posted by tathi
There's a great movie out about a teenager who falls pregnant to her gay boyfriend in an extremely christian fundamentalist town

called "Saved", recommended


+ 10pts for Mandy Moore = cute


Posted by Teflon_Teapot on Feb-24-2006 03:19:

mandi raises an interesting point here about the pill being used as a contraception. recent studies have shown a large number of teenage girls now think just taking the pill or the morning after pill is an acceptable form of contraception because it prevents them from becoming pregnant. but they forget about the risk of contracting sexually transmitted diseases and as a consequence the number of std's among teenages is rising. will ru486 only increase this problem?


Posted by AnitA on Feb-24-2006 03:21:

Read again:

Too many young hungry sluts out there!
You want cock so bad, and don't protect yourself, then suffer!!

Whether it be for a pregnancy or std!!

quote:
Originally posted by Teflon_Teapot
mandi raises an interesting point here about the pill being used as a contraception. recent studies have shown a large number of teenage girls now think just taking the pill or the morning after pill is an acceptable form of contraception because it prevents them from becoming pregnant. but they forget about the risk of contracting sexually transmitted diseases and as a consequence the number of std's among teenages is rising. will ru486 only increase this problem?


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Feb-24-2006 03:21:

quote:
Originally posted by tathi
There's a great movie out about a teenager who falls pregnant to her gay boyfriend in an extremely christian fundamentalist town

called \"Saved\", recommended


not a bad flick. im quite the fan of mandy i must admit! she was lovely in 'a walk to remember' (fvck off begic).


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Feb-24-2006 03:23:

quote:
Originally posted by kelsta
+ 10pts for Mandy Moore = cute


+10 pts for Kel = good taste in girlies


Posted by Teflon_Teapot on Feb-24-2006 03:25:

i think we just have a different way of expressing ourselves anita


Posted by AnitA on Feb-24-2006 03:31:

LOL I just say it as it is.

quote:
Originally posted by Teflon_Teapot
i think we just have a different way of expressing ourselves anita


Posted by MiSSyM on Feb-24-2006 03:32:

gee you're bloody quick! lol
quote:
Theres no denying that you must take the responsibility, but what i don't agree is that at early stage of pregnancy that you should be stripped with the choice.

I know what you mean, but you must realise that the high level of poverty of people is just not the right time for a child to be brought in, thats all.

Then i guess that statement must be changed to for people that will be able to support then child with proper income, in this case, then it is the responsibility of the parent to take care of the child even if they weren't ready.


But you're not stripped of that choice. If women want, they can still have an abortion (I think -not 100%- up to 3 months?)!

I am well aware of the poverty in society and totally agree that if
impoverished people dont have the funds to raise & take care of a child, then they probably shouldnt be raising a child!
So should they all just get abortions? Its that so easy & simple.
I think not. These people shouldnt have sex, if thats the case!
People need to take responsibility for their actions!

quote:

that comment was only meant as a joke towards how one sided the comments become towards very very early pregnancy and that comment made.

LOL phewwwww!


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Feb-24-2006 03:34:

i think what we\'re all trying to say is that we\'re in general agreeance that women are dirty whores. lets try and build something upon than common ground. like a sluttery.


Posted by kelsta on Feb-24-2006 03:35:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
+10 pts for Kel = good taste in girlies




I won't listen to house at tribes so can I have another 10pts


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Feb-24-2006 03:38:

quote:
Originally posted by kelsta


I won't listen to house at tribes so can I have another 10pts


lol! kel, not listening to house bags you at LEAST 10 pts/hour


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