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Well if your spending money on an audiphile quality belt drive then you can afford to buy a pair of techs or stantons.
The main point is that a dj shouldnt realy buy belt driven turntables.

Yeah I agree if a turtable is ment for djing and it's a belt drive it'll genrally be of low quality. That said the entry level direct drives can be just as bad really in some cases.

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Originally posted by DJ 00 Tommy Well if your spending money on an audiphile quality belt drive then you can afford to buy a pair of techs or stantons. The main point is that a dj shouldnt realy buy belt driven turntables.

I wasn't talking about DJ's, now was I.

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Originally posted by x_moe thanks guys for the helpful info., so should i look more into Technics or Numark, i found pretty nice dj package from Numark with everything to start djing, and it looks pretty good enough for me to start practicing on it, and maybe few months after i can upgrade.

If you're planning to upgrade anyway, why don't you just save yourself the money and hassle and buy good decks in the first place? You'll learn faster and if you decide you don't like DJing after all then you'll resell them easily, whereas belt drives (esp the dj in a box packagers) will just go in the bin.

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They're shoved under my bed collecting dust if anyone would care to lighten me of them???

You see, i can't even give mine away

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery I wasn't talking about DJ's, now was I.

I know you wernt. But the thread was

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whereas belt drives (esp the dj in a box packagers) will just go in the bin.

are you telling me that i shouldnt buy those packages, coz some packages come with direct drives, and i find it cheaper then buying everything individually

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Originally posted by x_moe are you telling me that i shouldnt buy those packages, coz some packages come with direct drives, and i find it cheaper then buying everything individually

What you want to steer clear of are all-in-one starter packs for DJs, that are sold with 'everything you need to get started' (tts, mixer, headphones etc), for under �200 like this (soz I don't do $$$$). However DJ stores sometimes sell more expensive packages put together themselves like this., which are a safer bet (but still not as cool as researching the equipment yourself, trying it out and making your own decisions, I think).

Bottom line - you get what you pay for.

would it matter if i bought two different kinds of turntables, would they still work good together

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Originally posted by Dervish Just for information, I'm currently enuberated (sp) but he point of my little jibe was that people tend to go "technics technics technics" without even trying other decks. You'd be willing to say technics were better than "panasonic" decks even though they are the same thing. Now what does that say? You choose. But it is one of my pet peaves this technics bandwagon (note you're in the magority). Right I did quote you in my sig, but I recon your just trying to be helpful so I'll take it out but open your mind ok?

Thing is I was one of the people who was going to get something other then Technic initially. Thankfully I continued on with my research and did end up getting the Technics. They simply are the best dj turntable out there.

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Originally posted by x_moe would it matter if i bought two different kinds of turntables, would they still work good together

In theory yes, but it might be annoying as the decks might behave differently...and why would you want to do that anyway?

save up for some technics. you'll be glad you did

i dont have money for technics, I made an order today, a pair of Numark and a pair of Gemini and a stanton mixer.. i hope i didnt do something wrong buying all different makes

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Originally posted by x_moe a pair of Numark and a pair of Gemini

I hope you meant 1 of each deck...

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Originally posted by est I hope you meant 1 of each deck...

yeah sorry, i meant 1 of each

what are those high end audiophile belt drive turntables ?

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Originally posted by x_moe yeah sorry, i meant 1 of each

If you don't mind me asking, how much did you spend on all of the equipment?

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Originally posted by DOOMBOT If you don't mind me asking, how much did you spend on all of the equipment?

$380 all together, the Gemini turntable is brand new, the Numark turntable and the mixer are used

actually i cancelled the order for the used Numark and the mixer, and i order them brand new, also Gemini make, they cost me around $450, thats all i can afford right now.

2 Gemini TT02 MKll Direct Drive Turntable
1 Gemini PMX 02 Professional 2 Channel Stereo Mixer

here are the features for the turntables and the mixer i ordered. so can somebody tell me if they are good for a bigenner like me who just wants to learn and practice on them, since i know nothing about turntables.

Gemini TT02 MKll Direct Drive Turntable

- High torque direct drive turntable
- +/-10% Variable pitch slider
- Solid aluminum platter with easy glide grooves
- Straight tonearm for superior tracking
- Fully adjustable counter weight & anti-skating controls
- Dual speed RPM (33/45)
- LED illuminated soft touch start/stop & RPM buttons
- Removable head shell
- CN-1000 cartridge & felt slipmat included
- Detachable RCA & ground cables

Gemini PMX 02 Professional 2 Channel Stereo Mixer

10� 2 channel stereo mixers
4 line, 2 convertible phono/line RCA inputs
Dual ground screws for easy connectivity

Face:
3 band rotary EQ per channel
Removable face plate for user replaceable Rail Glide�

Cross fader
Ergonomically designed to be flush with turntable
Smooth curved face plate
Rotary gain channel control

Front:
1/4� Mic input & headphone output



and what exactly is Torque ?

Torque is just the like torque in a car.
Torque is the power, not the speed but how strong it can push.
Im not sure how to explain it propely but im sure someone here knows there basic physics better than i do.
That gemini equipment will most likely break down on you soon.

Re: Direct & Belt Drives ?

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Originally posted by x_moe Hello, i've been surfing the net for a while looking for turntables to buy, but i dont seem to understand whats the difference between Belt drive turntables and Direct drive turntables, can somebody tell me,, and maybe give me a tip about what make of turntables a biggener should start off with, thanks

Hi moe !!
The diference between direct drive and belt drive turntables is that
the belt ones are driven by a belt attached to a rubber belt.
The rubber belt tends to fluctuate a lot.

On the dirrect drives on the other hand the platter is driven by a motor
which makes it more accurate for scratching and mixing technics.

A whole generation of bedroom djs grew up using soundlabs and belt driven equip.
coz that's all you could buy for under 500 back int he day.
Given the limitations of the equipment you are using you build serious platter control skill.

These days however nobody has to struggle with belt driven stuff.
You can buy direct drives for very cheap.
You can get a full decent dj setup for 500 if that is all you can afford!

Dude honestly trust me it's all about the practice.
Dont listen to the fools on here.
If you practice for long hours and learn to use the the stuff you got
you will be able to mix better than bedroom djs with cdj 1000s
and fancy fuckin 2000$ mixers coz you will be all skillz !

Then when you outgrow them you will buy new gear
but you will already have build the listening skillz and a solid record collection.

One advise I could give you is to stear clear off ebay lots and shit like that when buying records.

When starting out and you have no music it's easy to get into buying the ''10 for 20$'' ''rare(overstock) tiesto (has never heard of them) classics (junk)
Buy expensive hard to find Exeptionaly GOOD records that you really like and pick them one by one even if that means you have to nick 20$ for one.
If you have lot's of records that you realy like but not many people heard of
and really rare 50$ records it's a sigh that you are building a quality collection
that will set you apart from the rest

Good luck & have fun!

Well, you could have definitely found a pair of used techs for $500 or even less anywhere and just saved a little more for a mixer. But anyway, good luck to ya!

Yeah but used technics arn't always the little work horses they apear to be.... isn't that right est?

I've played on technics and geminis (tho not that exact model) are pretty solid, totally fit to purpose.

For me if it is between say 0 records and technics and say 100 records and geminis I know exactly what I'd pick!

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Originally posted by DJ 00 Tommy That gemini equipment will most likely break down on you soon.

Is this based on any particular facts? Or experiance?

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Originally posted by Dervish Yeah but used technics arn't always the little work horses they apear to be.... isn't that right est? I've played on technics and geminis (tho not that exact model) are pretty solid, totally fit to purpose. For me if it is between say 0 records and technics and say 100 records and geminis I know exactly what I'd pick!

I guess we just don't see eye to eye then.

Personally, I am glad I took the route of getting the better equipment first. It may have left me a little low on cash and only allowed me to mix with a few records but that really forced me to practice and really get down beat matching before going crazy with dozens of records and effects. It has been a few months now and I have gotten very comfortable with the beatmatching thing. Over the course of that time I have also saved enough money to start endulging myself with records! I spose it all depends on what type of route you want to take but I say go with getting something that you know will last and take your time. It really isn't a hobby you can simply just jump into and become a pro at the next day.

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