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Originally posted by DJFreaq ... He wants to hear the tracks PRE-eq so he can mix into the next track (by adjusting bass/mid or what-have you) BUT still hear the uneffected audio in his headphones. (because I to have a little trouble mixing in a new choon and keeping it matched proper when I can't hear my highs or bass when im mixing in a track)

alright, i though he was just talking about when cueing. well nvm then.

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Originally posted by FEX321 sorry to flame you bro, but why cant you just have all the EQ's at 12 o' clock? and make your life easier? and choose any mixer.

are you suggesting i wouldn't use eqs at all?!


edit: just like DJFreaq said.

Skip. I love your avatar.

That makes me whant to play Kirby. So. Bad.

Like already stated earlier, Vestax PCV 175

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Originally posted by Rebel Brown Like already stated earlier, Vestax PCV 175

Yes it's a LOVELY mixer. But you can't buy it anymore. And i just checked eBay and there's only one up for bids.

So unless you know somebody who wants to part with it. You're sorta hosed... at least with getting a 175.

Unless you know any other ways to grab one?

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Originally posted by DJFreaq Skip. I love your avatar. That makes me whant to play Kirby. So. Bad.

yeah, i love kirby too, it just looks so brilliant! i used to play kirby on my gameboy when i was a kid, it was the only game i had besides tetris and some supermario!

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Originally posted by DJFreaq Unless you know any other ways to grab one?

Nah, my mate has one and he got his from eBay too. Haven't seen any others anywhere else.

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Originally posted by skip this is about mixers where you CAN'T hear the eq changes in the headphones!

Ah, sorry then

The feature is called Pre and Post EQ selectivity.

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Originally posted by St. Michael The feature is called Pre and Post EQ selectivity.

i don't need post though, pre is all i need. i think the only mixer which has both is the xone:92.

I was browsing music123.com and came across the Stanton SA-5 and the Vestax VMC-180 both seem to have it but i suggest downloading the instruction manuals first. I think they have it because I see pre and post options for each channel on both mixers

forget the stanton i just read the manual its some confusingly different feature that is not what you are looking for

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Originally posted by spdandpwr forget the stanton i just read the manual its some confusingly different feature that is not what you are looking for

just checked the vestax too, and it controls aux and the options are off and post. dunno what that means, but i don't think it has anything to do with cueing! but thanks for helping anyway!

Vestax PMC 170A

If you can find one.

such a simple feature too, wonder why it wouldn't be on most mixers

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Originally posted by Rebel Brown Like already stated earlier, Vestax PCV 175

lol. i totally missed this post somehow! dunno how that happened though! anyway are you sure it has this feature? i might try to hunt it down somewhere.

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Originally posted by Rebel Brown Nah, my mate has one and he got his from eBay too. Haven't seen any others anywhere else.

found one brand new for 600�!!! quite fucking pricey if you ask me, especially as it's and old mixer!
i can't find any more info on the mixer anywhere though. not even a high resolution pic, to see the functions better. can you tell me something about it? thanks

Go to the Vestax site and see the VMC-185XL, which replaced the PCV175... I have the PCV-275 and I think the 3 channels are independent, but since like 3 people already said it didn't, I'd go with no

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Originally posted by Munchy Go to the Vestax site and see the VMC-185XL, which replaced the PCV175... I have the PCV-275 and I think the 3 channels are independent, but since like 3 people already said it didn't, I'd go with no

sorry, but i don't really get what you're saying. and i'm pretty sure the vmc-185xl doesn't have pre eq monitoring though, so i'd need the pcv 175.

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Originally posted by skip found one brand new for 600�!!! quite fucking pricey if you ask me, especially as it's and old mixer! i can't find any more info on the mixer anywhere though. not even a high resolution pic, to see the functions better. can you tell me something about it? thanks

There's your high resolution picture!

The mixer doesn't have the option to select between pre and post EQ, just that you can't hear the EQ changes when cueing. Which is what you're after, right?

I had a quick look on eBay, and there's only like 1 on there, which is quite unusual as there is normally quite a few, they usually end up going for about �100-120ish, which is what my mate paid for his I think.

What did you want to know about the mixer?

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Originally posted by Rebel Brown There's your high resolution picture! The mixer doesn't have the option to select between pre and post EQ, just that you can't hear the EQ changes when cueing. Which is what you're after, right? I had a quick look on eBay, and there's only like 1 on there, which is quite unusual as there is normally quite a few, they usually end up going for about �100-120ish, which is what my mate paid for his I think. What did you want to know about the mixer?

thanks for the pic! and yes that is what i am after as long as you can hear the master on the phones aswell.

what's the middle channel for on the mixer? as it says "sub" on it. what does that mean?
how are the cueing options like?
can you listen to both channels at the same time?
can you listen to only once channel at a time?
is there split cue?
can you listen to the master through the headphones?
what are the P.F.L. switches? pfe fader listen a.k.a. you can hear that on the phones?
can the crossfader be turned off?
how are the channel faders? are they very exponential like on most mixers?
how is the quality of the mixer?
does it seem well done or does it feel flimsy or something?
any problems with it?
what are the bad points of this mixer?
do you think i should buy one? maybe even the 600� brand new one? or should i just wait to grab one from ebay from someone who's willing to ship to finland?
got any info on the rotary kit for it?


thanks for your help man

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Originally posted by skip thanks for the pic! and yes that is what i am after as long as you can hear the master on the phones aswell. what's the middle channel for on the mixer? as it says "sub" on it. what does that mean? Never noticed that before, still functions fully like the other 2 channels as far as I know. how are the cueing options like? Cueing is pretty standard, you can cue all the 3 channels at once if needed using the PFL switches above the channel faders. The PFL switch on the right above the phones level allows you to listen to the master. can you listen to both channels at the same time? Yep. can you listen to only once channel at a time? Nope. is there split cue? Nope. can you listen to the master through the headphones? Yep, the PFL switch on the right allows you to do that what are the P.F.L. switches? pfe fader listen a.k.a. you can hear that on the phones? You got it. can the crossfader be turned off? Nope. how are the channel faders? are they very exponential like on most mixers? Faders are nice and smooth, no complaints there. how is the quality of the mixer? does it seem well done or does it feel flimsy or something? Solid mixer, all the EQs are firm and feel nice. The faders are nice and smooth, no complaints there. any problems with it? what are the bad points of this mixer? I've only used the mixer at my friends house for a couple of sets so not much heavy usage, but I never experienced anything wrong with it, and I have yet to hear from him saying anything bad about it. do you think i should buy one? maybe even the 600� brand new one? or should i just wait to grab one from ebay from someone who's willing to ship to finland? It is quite a nice mixer, sound quality and build are both good, but I don't reckon you should pay 600 for it. I think waiting for one to pop up on ebay is the best option to be honest. got any info on the rotary kit for it? Apart from that fact that it's quite expensive considering the mixer isn't very fancy, and fairly hard to get hold of, I haven't heard much about it. thanks for your help man No problems!

Ok I'm playing around with my PCV-275 right now since I'm running it off my computer and Traktor, and I can mess with the EQ of the track being cue'd in my headphones without affecting the track going through the monitors, is that what you wanted?

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Originally posted by Rebel Brown

thanks again! i think this mixer is definitely the one i'm looking for. just to clarify: i can listen to say both channels 1 & 2 on the phones the same time and then i don't hear the eq changes on either? and if i listen to the master i will hear the eq changes right? now all i need is to find one from a seller that's willing to ship to finland.

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Originally posted by Munchy Ok I'm playing around with my PCV-275 right now since I'm running it off my computer and Traktor, and I can mess with the EQ of the track being cue'd in my headphones without affecting the track going through the monitors, is that what you wanted?

no that is not what i want.

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