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Originally posted by Col Shit yeah, maybe my track is mislabelled. Just an alias though, still the same people behind it. :P

Leama isnt part of Zoo DJs, that would be Andy Moor and Mick Parks as already stated. Personally i think the best Zoo DJs remix is their remix of Chemical Brothers - Asleep From Day, i definitely recommend that one. Lush breakbeats and a very laidback tune over all. I actually think it's an improvement to the original. Also, Hope Sandoval's voice is sooo good.

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Originally posted by n0bben Leama isnt part of Zoo DJs, that would be Andy Moor and Mick Parks as already stated. Personally i think the best Zoo DJs remix is their remix of Chemical Brothers - Asleep From Day, i definitely recommend that one. Lush breakbeats and a very laidback tune over all. I actually think it's an improvement to the original. Also, Hope Sandoval's voice is sooo good.

fucking hell! why wont they release that one on CD???

Pricks! I love em' but I hate em

Gwill Morris - Forme (Leama & Moor Remix
definately my favorite of their remixes. great song.

u damn straight!

I shouldn't listen to it too much though.

I dont wanna get sick of it. stupid me.

Yes A fellow L&M fan. I have a song suggestion for you, listen to "Sonorous - Protonic (Leama and Moor Remix)" ... you'll die

have fun

no worries
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I just checked out some samples from the album. its gonna be sooooooooooo good!

I mean for fuck sake people, this is what I mean when I say GOOD trance!!! notice how these guys don't use shitty drums or synths?

That is why there music is GOOD!

*sigh*

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Originally posted by Tenshi i think you should check out the following too: starkid - crayons (leama & moors in loving memory of starkid mix)

Choon!

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Originally posted by RebeL9 it's quite obvious that Leama is the musical brain behind this project. Especially if you listen to his solo work. Paul Oakenfold - Zoo York (Leama & Moor remix) is propably my favourite one

Sorry to correct you AGAIN mr rebel9 but you seem to appear on every thread regarding andy moor and go on about the same things �andy moors older productions were better, leama is the brains etc� but someone corrected you last time, and now ill correct you again.

Melodica = leama + moor but released under leamas name as andy was producing a different style under his name at the time.

Requim for a dream = exactly the same as above

Eugina = same again

Infact everything but �labrynth� (which coincidentally was totally different than the others) was produced by both leama and andy moor�i own all the records so I know as its on the print�.ive also read old interviews about it too. Why else hasn�t leama done a track on his own?? Andys biog says a lot about his musical and technical background, leamas doesn�t.

Im not saying anything about leama�just correcting the bad comments rebel9 seems to say constantly say to try to demeanor moor.

This aside I cannot wait for the album. Anyone have a release date? The clips sound good and glad its not gonna be a full on dance album as if I wanted to listen to that id buy a mix comp.

Starkid - Crayons remix is still my alltime fav of theirs.

post the samples pls

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Originally posted by Magnus Starkid - Crayons remix is still my alltime fav of theirs.

Great song, Im listening to it right now in fact, its been a while since I've listened to it.

The remix of An Ending was terrible. It went absolutely nowhere.

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Originally posted by PvD2005 This aside I cannot wait for the album. Anyone have a release date? T

leama told me may

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Originally posted by PvD2005 Sorry to correct you AGAIN mr rebel9 but you seem to appear on every thread regarding andy moor and go on about the same things �andy moors older productions were better, leama is the brains etc� but someone corrected you last time, and now ill correct you again. Melodica = leama + moor but released under leamas name as andy was producing a different style under his name at the time. Requim for a dream = exactly the same as above Eugina = same again Infact everything but �labrynth� (which coincidentally was totally different than the others) was produced by both leama and andy moor�i own all the records so I know as its on the print�.ive also read old interviews about it too. Why else hasn�t leama done a track on his own?? Andys biog says a lot about his musical and technical background, leamas doesn�t. Im not saying anything about leama�just correcting the bad comments rebel9 seems to say constantly say to try to demeanor moor.

what bad comments about Andy Moor? I praise his older productions, how can that be seen as negative? Sure his newer stuff disgust me but saying that I am a Moor hater is a lie.
you wrote that Andys blog says alot about his musical and technical background. Where can these musical skills be heard in his newer productions?

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Originally posted by RebeL9 what bad comments about Andy Moor? I praise his older productions, how can that be seen as negative? Sure his newer stuff disgust me but saying that I am a Moor hater is a lie. you wrote that Andys blog says alot about his musical and technical background. Where can these musical skills be heard in his newer productions?

I can hear them a lot in his newer productions�.if anything his older tracks werent as musical as his newer ones. I personally like halcyon because of the feeling it gives me�its difficult to describe but I know a lot of people who get the same feeling when listening to this. If you don�t get that feeling then you might not enjoy the track�or If you don�t like that style�.etc etc but I don�t think you can say its not musical or technical. Air for life�.this had no musical or technical input from moor? It has his sound stamped all over it. His basslines are creative instead of just sticking the formularic off basslines in. Superfly was a hybrid between his older style and his newer style I think. Luminary remixes�.again im pretty sure they had a lot of melody requiring musical skill. Its pretty obvious you don�t like his new style or productions and that�s totally fine, but a lot of people love it and when someone changed their sound they cannot please everyone. Im totally familier with his earlier work and if he was still producing that I would be totally bored (my opinion) but it was good at the time. The people that like his sound now will probably not like the earlier work as his earlier tracks didn�t appeal to trance fans but current tracks do�hence the topics on trance addict.

Anyway you seem to not be able to grasp my point in many of my posts�.. you said leama was the musical brains�.i gave the reasons why you are wrong which included his biog along with other FACTS. So this means that evidence of his musical background is also in all the leama and moor productions as he is involved in anything good that leama had done many years ago. I wait to hear the album to see if this is carried along.

Besides this your comments have become a bit more civil and so do a lot of TAs as they realise its not cool to just bash everything they don�t like�take the recent markus schulz thread for example..the more people bash other music the more other music fans will like it as they defend what they like.

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Originally posted by PvD2005 I can hear them a lot in his newer productions�.if anything his older tracks werent as musical as his newer ones. I personally like halcyon because of the feeling it gives me�its difficult to describe but I know a lot of people who get the same feeling when listening to this. If you don�t get that feeling then you might not enjoy the track�or If you don�t like that style�.etc etc but I don�t think you can say its not musical or technical. Air for life�.this had no musical or technical input from moor? It has his sound stamped all over it. His basslines are creative instead of just sticking the formularic off basslines in. Superfly was a hybrid between his older style and his newer style I think. Luminary remixes�.again im pretty sure they had a lot of melody requiring musical skill. Its pretty obvious you don�t like his new style or productions and that�s totally fine, but a lot of people love it and when someone changed their sound they cannot please everyone. Im totally familier with his earlier work and if he was still producing that I would be totally bored (my opinion) but it was good at the time. The people that like his sound now will probably not like the earlier work as his earlier tracks didn�t appeal to trance fans but current tracks do�hence the topics on trance addict. Anyway you seem to not be able to grasp my point in many of my posts�.. you said leama was the musical brains�.i gave the reasons why you are wrong which included his biog along with other FACTS. So this means that evidence of his musical background is also in all the leama and moor productions as he is involved in anything good that leama had done many years ago. I wait to hear the album to see if this is carried along. Besides this your comments have become a bit more civil and so do a lot of TAs as they realise its not cool to just bash everything they don�t like�take the recent markus schulz thread for example..the more people bash other music the more other music fans will like it as they defend what they like.

the so called "elitists" on this board have always been civil. They were here on this forum first and know how to behave. However when the big horde of DJ worshipers flooded the forum in the last 1-2 years and every single one had to express his worshipment to Armin, Tiesto and Schulz. You could sometimes enter the MD and see 5 threads talking about the same thing "omg Armin is the god!!" etc.
The so called "elitists" are what I would say are most openminded. You'll see most of them listen to a wide range of electronic music styles. Compared to alot of the newer narrowminded TAs for whom there is nothing beyond Armin. If you just knew how many naive narrowminded sheeps I've discussed some subjects with here.

Well I totally understand, but maybe sometimes the elitists encourage this by enticing them. To pick fun of their heros will never stop them just make them worse. (Excuse us for going off the original L+M thread here). Although I have a silly user name and only posted a few times it doesn�t represent my age or musical knowledge, but to suggest some are more worthy is not really right. I have seen you on many posts as I follow the music of certain producers�and many a time your posts have been pretty degrading. Ok some people think the sun shines out of some music individuals but just tell it how it is�.by going around saying �such and such has no talent� and �such and such hasn�t used any musical ability in any productions� is not helpful as I know they have.You are just winding people up and making people frustrated as people will read this board and think that your 'factual' comments are true. With some of the things that are happening in the world today To say someones new work 'disgusts you' is a strong comment, so a guy going into a studio to make music that has pleased lots of people 'disgusts you'!? but its your opinion so i shant ramble on about that.

Have an opinion yes, but stating facts that are wrong, and comments that are degrading to the people that know otherwise is not helping things. I don�t want to sound like �im better than you� as that�s not the case, im sure you are better than me at most things�.but I happen to follow certain artists and when the �elitists� try and influence the others by stating false facts and comments it just makes the whole situation more confusing. Hope you understand 

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Originally posted by PvD2005 Well I totally understand, but maybe sometimes the elitists encourage this by enticing them. To pick fun of their heros will never stop them just make them worse. (Excuse us for going off the original L+M thread here). Although I have a silly user name and only posted a few times it doesn�t represent my age or musical knowledge, but to suggest some are more worthy is not really right. I have seen you on many posts as I follow the music of certain producers�and many a time your posts have been pretty degrading. Ok some people think the sun shines out of some music individuals but just tell it how it is�.by going around saying �such and such has no talent� and �such and such hasn�t used any musical ability in any productions� is not helpful as I know they have.You are just winding people up and making people frustrated as people will read this board and think that your 'factual' comments are true. With some of the things that are happening in the world today To say someones new work 'disgusts you' is a strong comment, so a guy going into a studio to make music that has pleased lots of people 'disgusts you'!? but its your opinion so i shant ramble on about that. Have an opinion yes, but stating facts that are wrong, and comments that are degrading to the people that know otherwise is not helping things. I don�t want to sound like �im better than you� as that�s not the case, im sure you are better than me at most things�.but I happen to follow certain artists and when the �elitists� try and influence the others by stating false facts and comments it just makes the whole situation more confusing. Hope you understand 

I totally agree with you on this one... Damn, what a quality post ! Someone had to say it this good

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Originally posted by PvD2005 Well I totally understand, but maybe sometimes the elitists encourage this by enticing them. To pick fun of their heros will never stop them just make them worse. (Excuse us for going off the original L+M thread here). Although I have a silly user name and only posted a few times it doesn�t represent my age or musical knowledge, but to suggest some are more worthy is not really right. I have seen you on many posts as I follow the music of certain producers�and many a time your posts have been pretty degrading. Ok some people think the sun shines out of some music individuals but just tell it how it is�.by going around saying �such and such has no talent� and �such and such hasn�t used any musical ability in any productions� is not helpful as I know they have.You are just winding people up and making people frustrated as people will read this board and think that your 'factual' comments are true. With some of the things that are happening in the world today To say someones new work 'disgusts you' is a strong comment, so a guy going into a studio to make music that has pleased lots of people 'disgusts you'!? but its your opinion so i shant ramble on about that. Have an opinion yes, but stating facts that are wrong, and comments that are degrading to the people that know otherwise is not helping things. I don�t want to sound like �im better than you� as that�s not the case, im sure you are better than me at most things�.but I happen to follow certain artists and when the �elitists� try and influence the others by stating false facts and comments it just makes the whole situation more confusing. Hope you understand 

still saying that some people are uncivil is a very bold statement since from my time here I'm pretty sure which group is more civil than the other.
One thing which I've seen increase alot during the last 1-2 year is that when someone post something negative about a certain tune/producer etc the others are like "if you don't like this tune then don't post!". Pretty funny since this is an open discussion forum. And no I am not refering to the harsch comments. Pretty normal comments such as "no this tune is really week" is often enough for the worshippers to upset them.
yes I stand by what I said. Andy Moors current sound disgust me. You and Paul van Dyk may love it but to me it's cheesy pling plong. I don't hate Andy Moor. It's just his sound.
And if you are civil enough you can accept this. And I am not the only one who feel this way.

oh and back on topic: have anyone heard Leama & Moor - Shades of Yellow?
is it good?

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Originally posted by RebeL9 oh and back on topic: have anyone heard Leama & Moor - Shades of Yellow? is it good?

just an ambient version of one of the other colours for what i remember.

and its not just me and paul van dyk that love andy moors sound...its the majority of people into this sound. Ok its mostly trance people that like it these days but we are on a trance discussion board so i can mention people like pvd, armin, oakey, tiesto, schulz, ferry, above+beyond etc etc are these not the leaders in this genre at the moment? Why does this offend you?


Its only on this board that a handful of people pop up on everything he does and give over offensive comments like "it disgusts me". I tried to explain on the previous post but you obviously just pick out bits that you can reply to. You and a few cronies might not like his sound thats totally fine, but why bother hindering other peoples enjoyment. You should definatly post your comment, but then to keep on and on and on about it doesnt do anybody any good and certainly wont stop other people liking it. I dont like some genres of music but i wont go and find a topic where they are talking about it and say "this music disgusts me, they are sh*t, they have no ability".

I think what you are trying to do is stop people getting 'over the top' about things that you dont see as worth the praise. I agree with this too but i cant keep comparing other styles to 'trance' and comparing them... and i cant keep diggin up the past and compare old with new..lets move forward and figure out the best way to move this genre forward. (and im talking about trance now..or whatever mcdonalds happy meal you want to call it this week)

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Originally posted by PvD2005 just an ambient version of one of the other colours for what i remember. and its not just me and paul van dyk that love andy moors sound...its the majority of people into this sound. Ok its mostly trance people that like it these days but we are on a trance discussion board so i can mention people like pvd, armin, oakey, tiesto, schulz, ferry, above+beyond etc etc are these not the leaders in this genre at the moment? Why does this offend you? Its only on this board that a handful of people pop up on everything he does and give over offensive comments like "it disgusts me". I tried to explain on the previous post but you obviously just pick out bits that you can reply to. You and a few cronies might not like his sound thats totally fine, but why bother hindering other peoples enjoyment. You should definatly post your comment, but then to keep on and on and on about it doesnt do anybody any good and certainly wont stop other people liking it. I dont like some genres of music but i wont go and find a topic where they are talking about it and say "this music disgusts me, they are sh*t, they have no ability". I think what you are trying to do is stop people getting 'over the top' about things that you dont see as worth the praise. I agree with this too but i cant keep comparing other styles to 'trance' and comparing them... and i cant keep diggin up the past and compare old with new..lets move forward and figure out the best way to move this genre forward. (and im talking about trance now..or whatever mcdonalds happy meal you want to call it this week)

i am anything but offended that they are popular. In fact those you mentioned have been popular for a good few years now. Why should I be offended? Even I was a huge fan of PVD in the 90s but got bored of his sound when he went more commercial. Same with Armin, A&B and the others.
but what often bothers me is that those Armada people seem to think that Armin is the only trance out there. Like that thread which was here the other day. A guy that thought trance began and ends with Armin. LOL!

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Originally posted by JakeC The remix of An Ending was terrible. It went absolutely nowhere.

i like it
dunno where you wanted it to go though

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Originally posted by RebeL9 i am anything but offended that they are popular. In fact those you mentioned have been popular for a good few years now. Why should I be offended? Even I was a huge fan of PVD in the 90s but got bored of his sound when he went more commercial. Same with Armin, A&B and the others. but what often bothers me is that those Armada people seem to think that Armin is the only trance out there. Like that thread which was here the other day. A guy that thought trance began and ends with Armin. LOL!

totally agree with you. I am just speculating here - but for a dj to become so big by doing pretty much the same as other people has alot to do with the people around them and how they effect other peoples 'perceptions' of how big they are. If new people get into the scene and constantly see 'armin is massive' through various mediums they will believe it without even attending a gig or hearing a set/production. Thats one reason for my liking of people like moor as he is creating his path without marketing people and advertising campaigns on radio stations etc, he is doing it through his productions and his live sets....but each to their own, but im sure he has the talent to produce styles that you like too...its just at the moment his style is not to your liking.

With regards to making your sound more commercial i totally agree, its not to my liking most of the time..but some people have to cater to the masses..rightly or wrongly and i appreciate that. It leaves others to be successful in the more underground scenes.

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Originally posted by mentalbarter i like it dunno where you wanted it to go though

Somewhere. Anywhere. I dont care. The track sounded flat and boring.

IMO

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