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I agree that the more moderate and liberal Muslims should stand up and oppose the radicals:
http://instapundit.com/archives/028876.php
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| February 28, 2006 A MANIFESTO AGAINST THE NEW ISLAMIC TOTALITARIANISM: Bravo. Click "read more" to read it. MANIFESTO: Together facing the new totalitarianism After having overcome fascism, Nazism, and Stalinism, the world now faces a new totalitarian global threat: Islamism. We, writers, journalists, intellectuals, call for resistance to religious totalitarianism and for the promotion of freedom, equal opportunity and secular values for all. The recent events, which occurred after the publication of drawings of Muhammed in European newspapers, have revealed the necessity of the struggle for these universal values. This struggle will not be won by arms, but in the ideological field. It is not a clash of civilisations nor an antagonism of West and East that we are witnessing, but a global struggle that confronts democrats and theocrats. Like all totalitarianisms, Islamism is nurtured by fears and frustrations. The hate preachers bet on these feelings in order to form battalions destined to impose a liberticidal and unegalitarian world. But we clearly and firmly state: nothing, not even despair, justifies the choice of obscurantism, totalitarianism and hatred. Islamism is a reactionary ideology which kills equality, freedom and secularism wherever it is present. Its success can only lead to a world of domination: man�s domination of woman, the Islamists� domination of all the others. To counter this, we must assure universal rights to oppressed or discriminated people. We reject � cultural relativism �, which consists in accepting that men and women of Muslim culture should be deprived of the right to equality, freedom and secular values in the name of respect for cultures and traditions. We refuse to renounce our critical spirit out of fear of being accused of "Islamophobia", an unfortunate concept which confuses criticism of Islam as a religion with stigmatisation of its believers. We plead for the universality of freedom of expression, so that a critical spirit may be exercised on all continents, against all abuses and all dogmas. We appeal to democrats and free spirits of all countries that our century should be one of Enlightenment, not of obscurantism. 12 signatures Ayaan Hirsi Ali Chahla Chafiq Caroline Fourest Bernard-Henri L�vy Irshad Manji Mehdi Mozaffari Maryam Namazie Taslima Nasreen Salman Rushdie Antoine Sfeir Philippe Val Ibn Warraq Presentations: Ayaan Hirsi Ali Ayaan Hirsi Ali, from somilian origin, is member of Dutch parliement, member of the liberal party VVD. Writter of the film Submission which caused the assasination of Theo Van Gogh by an islamist in november 2004, she lives under police protection. Chahla Chafiq Chahla Chafiq, writer from iranian origin, exiled in France is a novelist and an essayist. She�s the author of "Le nouvel homme islamiste , la prison politique en Iran " (2002). She also wrote novels such as "Chemins et brouillard" (2005). Caroline Fourest Essayist, editor in chief of Prochoix (a review who defend liberties against dogmatic and integrist ideologies), author of several reference books on � laicit� � and fanatism : Tirs Crois�s : la la�cit� � l��preuve des int�grismes juif, chr�tien et musulman (with Fiammetta Venner), Fr�re Tariq : discours, strat�gie et m�thode de Tariq Ramadan, et la Tentation obscurantiste (Grasset, 2005). She receieved the National prize of laicit� in 2005. Bernard-Henri L�vy French philosoph, born in Algeria, engaged against all the XXth century � ism � (Fascism, antisemitism, totalitarism, terrorism), he is the author of La Barbarie � visage humain, L�Id�ologie fran�aise, La Puret� dangereuse, and more recently American Vertigo. Irshad Manji Irshad Manji is a Fellow at Yale University and the internationally best-selling author of "The Trouble with Islam Today: A Muslim�s Call for Reform in Her Faith" (en francais: "Musulmane Mais Libre"). She speaks out for free expression based on the Koran itself. N�e en Ouganda, elle a fui ce pays avec sa famille musulmane d�origine indienne � l��ge de quatre ans et vit maintenant au Canada, o� ses �missions et ses livres connaissent un �norme succ�s. Mehdi Mozaffari Mehdi Mozaffari, professor from iranian origin and exiled in Denmark, is the author of several articles and books on islam and islamism such as : Authority in Islam: From Muhammad to Khomeini, Fatwa: Violence and Discourtesy and Glaobalization and Civilizations. Maryam Namazie Writer, TV International English producer; Director of the Worker-communist Party of Iran�s International Relations; and 2005 winner of the National Secular Society�s Secularist of the Year award. Taslima Nasreen Taslima Nasreen is born in Bangladesh. Doctor, her positions defending women and minorities brought her in trouble with a comittee of integrist called � Destroy Taslima � and to be persecuted as � apostate � Salman Rushdie Salman Rushdie is the author of nine novels, including Midnight�s Children, The Satanic Verses and, most recently, Shalimar the Clown. He has received many literary awards, including the Booker Prize, the Whitbread Prize for Best Novel, Germany�s Author of the Year Award, the European Union�s Aristeion Prize, the Budapest Grand Prize for Literature, the Premio Mantova, and the Austrian State Prize for European Literature. He is a Commandeur of the Ordre des Arts et Lettres, an Honorary Professor in the Humanities at M.I.T., and the president of PEN American Center. His books have been translated into over 40 languages. Philippe Val Director of publication of Charlie Hebdo (Leftwing french newspaper who have republished the cartoons on the prophet Muhammad by solidarity with the danish citizens targeted by islamists). Ibn Warraq Ibn Warraq , author notably of Why I am Not a Muslim ; Leaving Islam : Apostates Speak Out ; and The Origins of the Koran , is at present Research Fellow at a New York Institute conducting philological and historical research into the Origins of Islam and its Holy Book. Antoine Sfeir Born in Lebanon, christian, Antoine Sfeir choosed french nationality to live in an universalist and � la�c � (real secular) country. He is the director of Les cahiers de l�Orient and has published several reference books on islamism such as Les r�seaux d�Allah (2001) et Libert�, �galit�, Islam : la R�publique face au communautarisme (2005). |
I donno about Islam and i don' really care what it really is or not. The only thing i know from growing up in a muslim country is that Muslims are biiig time freaks that never change their mind and never will accept something else than what their holly QURAN says.
That's why i get offended when someone asks me if i am a muslim. 
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| Originally posted by extacy_bomb I donno about Islam and i don' really care what it really is or not. The only thing i know from growing up in a muslim country is that Muslims are biiig time freaks that never change their mind and never will accept something else than what their holly QURAN says. That's why i get offended when someone asks me if i am a muslim. |
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| Originally posted by extacy_bomb I donno about Islam and i don' really care what it really is or not. The only thing i know from growing up in a muslim country is that Muslims are biiig time freaks that never change their mind and never will accept something else than what their holly QURAN says. That's why i get offended when someone asks me if i am a muslim. |
but seriously
MarkT is right
just because a couple of c unts are fucked in the head doesnt mean we all fly planes into important landmarks or blow up train stations.
85% of us only care about the message of peace and love
kthnkxbye
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| Originally posted by drgoodvibe generalizing doesn't help. I can show you pics of people in Iran partying it up inside their homes in secret underground rec rooms. Young people and middle aged people dancing it up to illegal music, drinking illegal booze and so on. Painting an image of all muslims being radicals is like painting a stereotypical image of any religion .. There are examples for all. The intolerant people have the loudest voice, but they don't represent the bulk of the population. |
Not this shit again.
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| Originally posted by extacy_bomb I donno about Islam and i don' really care what it really is or not. The only thing i know from growing up in a muslim country is that Muslims are biiig time freaks that never change their mind and never will accept something else than what their holly QURAN says. That's why i get offended when someone asks me if i am a muslim. |
Its an open forum and people can discuss pretty much what they want. Happens on forums all over the net.
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| Originally posted by Euphorica Its an open forum and people can discuss pretty much what they want. Happens on forums all over the net. |
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| Originally posted by evil_cookie For anyone and everyone who starts useless threads like these : get a fucking life you losers. A music forum is no place for the ignorant to discuss religion. |
kidnapping a girl = weird, strange and illegal
holding her in front of a camera, while screaming allah akbar and then sending it to other muslims to encite rage......
= reason enough for war.....extremist muslims are in desparate need of a good PR team and some common sense.
kidnapping a girl because her dad drew some "offensive" pictures...is like killing Paul Bernardo's mom because she gave birth to him....
everyone must look at this....absolutly brilliant
http://www.shoutwire.com/viewstory/...s_on_Al_Jazeera
What most of you ppl dont understand is the mentalilty of a Impirialistic Islam, because you havnt experienced it, like LIVING in an ARAB/ISlamic country/state, or around such areas. They wish to spread it like cancer without the slightest compromise (and this is quoted by a brooklyn Hassidic JEW! who converted to Islam) "the quran will prevail, weather it is by the WORD or the RIFLE!".
Anyone who says that islam is a religion of peace, GO READ THE FUCKING QURAN U FUCKING RETARD, clearly it is not. I grew up around arabs IN an arab surrounded and arab accepted country, many were my freinds, those were the ones with without an islamic mentalilty, but rather more of a Secular one who didnt give a fuck about mohamed. If you choose to argue with what me and EXTASY-BOMB claim, go EXPIRIENCE IT!!!!!, before u open your mouth, otherwise you r as ignorant as an Amish in an internet cafe.
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| Originally posted by d!abolic I'm the loser? They sent TWELVE GROWN MEN to kidnap a SMALL FEMALE CHILD and you're claling ME a loser? |
I find it very interesting that two posters in this thread who dislike islam have been raised in islamic states.
I shall go and see for myself some day.
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| Originally posted by sufee_b YES! Your judging a religion with 1.5 billion followers from 12 men...you're either a loser or stupid (or both) |
This is like the 500th in recent memory. I've held out up until now but come on already, CUT THE FUCKING SHIT PEOPLE!
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| Originally posted by Adamo everyone must look at this....absolutly brilliant http://www.shoutwire.com/viewstory/...s_on_Al_Jazeera |
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| Originally posted by areon What most of you ppl dont understand is the mentalilty of a Impirialistic Islam, because you havnt experienced it, like LIVING in an ARAB/ISlamic country/state, or around such areas. They wish to spread it like cancer without the slightest compromise (and this is quoted by a brooklyn Hassidic JEW! who converted to Islam) "the quran will prevail, weather it is by the WORD or the RIFLE!". Anyone who says that islam is a religion of peace, GO READ THE FUCKING QURAN U FUCKING RETARD, clearly it is not. I grew up around arabs IN an arab surrounded and arab accepted country, many were my freinds, those were the ones with without an islamic mentalilty, but rather more of a Secular one who didnt give a fuck about mohamed. If you choose to argue with what me and EXTASY-BOMB claim, go EXPIRIENCE IT!!!!!, before u open your mouth, otherwise you r as ignorant as an Amish in an internet cafe. |
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| Originally posted by d!abolic Yes, because they haven't done anything other than this particular incident This is like the 500th in recent memory. I've held out up until now but come on already, CUT THE FUCKING SHIT PEOPLE! |
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| Originally posted by hardcore trancer long live Palestine and give them their land back |
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| Originally posted by extacy_bomb Bottom line i don think i am a loser just cause of I spoke my mind. |
Originally posted by hardcore trancer
long live Palestine
and give them their land back
+ 100000000000000000000
SS
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| Originally posted by Euphorica Its an open forum and people can discuss pretty much what they want. Happens on forums all over the net. |
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| Originally posted by hardcore trancer long live Palestine and give them their land back |
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