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Originally posted by Jayx1 The sun reported today that it was a hip hop concert. Very small article. You can bet though if it was afterhours the article would be more front and centre. I hope the media doesnt get crazy with hip hop bashing because that will be bad for all clubs and club genres. Old farts dont distinguish between hip hop and house, they will just see ALL clubs as bad.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 It happens mainly at hip hop clubs. I work in the club industry and 99% of any bullshit that goes down at a club happens either on hip hop night or in the hip hop room. Its an industrywide understanding as well.

tell me something we both don't know
gets to be i don't want to work hip hop events

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Originally posted by Surreal JRS Stababaloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

is he part of the ape unit?

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Originally posted by dEsidEL stop the violence.. hopefully hiphop can someday return to its roots

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for real bro.
it started out so good... but now, its just going way down hill.

personally a major factor that leads to these type of situations at hip hop parties is the alcohol and of course the rowdy lyrics. alcohol tends to make people pissed off and impatient therefore leading to stabbings, shooting etc... afterhours on the other hand does not lead to these kind of problems because a majority of those party goers are on the "love drug" and are pretty much there for the music and not the "beef" lol

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Originally posted by dEsidEL stop the violence.. hopefully hiphop can someday return to its roots

NIGGA you crazy?

It will never go back to it's roots, back to the positive vibe and back to the knowledge & wisdom.

Things with hip hop will get more commercial and more thuggy.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 It happens mainly at hip hop clubs. I work in the club industry and 99% of any bullshit that goes down at a club happens either on hip hop night or in the hip hop room. Its an industrywide understanding as well.

Fair enough, however, I've noticed at many electronic events that there is often a few hip hoppers. system especially, 99 sudbury as well. In montreal it is often a mixed crowd.

when it comes down to it, you should be aware that you're not 100% safe at any club...you can be as PLUR as you want, it doesn't make you or the event you're at immune from people with different intentions or attitudes.

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Originally posted by Skipper Fair enough, however, I've noticed at many electronic events that there is often a few hip hoppers. system especially, 99 sudbury as well. In montreal it is often a mixed crowd. when it comes down to it, you should be aware that you're not 100% safe at any club...you can be as PLUR as you want, it doesn't make you or the event you're at immune from people with different intentions or attitudes.

Hehehehee. She said plur.

Seriously, +1 to what she said.

Can't avoid human stupidity in society. But, no reason to get over paranoid about it either.

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Originally posted by E2EK1EL NIGGA you crazy? It will never go back to it's roots, back to the positive vibe and back to the knowledge & wisdom. Things with hip hop will get more commercial and more thuggy.

well, there is still good postive, intellegent hiphop (ie. Talib, Dead Prez, Mos Def, etc. etc.) but they just don't play it on the radio.

REAL hiphop is actually a lot like Electornic Music... anyone could listen to the commercial stuff they play on Z103 and so on... but to get the actual GOOD stuff, they have to find it elsewhere... such as the internet, etc.

my BF is huge into hip hop...my attitude has totally changed towards it as a result. stereotypes permeate everything...

i just find it ironic how many within the electronic dance scene preach open mindedness and acceptance of their music and at the same time hate on a scene like HipHop.. which is not to say that there isn't violence in that scene, however there is quality within it albeit largely overshadowed by stereotypes that are permeated through actions such as this.. every type music has its good and bad artists

I'll bet those who were stabbed had some sorta beef with the stabber, or didn't handle a situation properly all in the name of keeping up their thug image. They never tell you in the newspapers about the 10 minute fight BEFORE the stabbing where one guy scuffs the other's Pumas and doesn't apologize cuz he's 'street'.

Which doesn't excuse the stabbing by any means, but deffinately provides some clues on how NOT to be stabbed in a club.

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Originally posted by Skipper my BF is huge into hip hop...my attitude has totally changed towards it as a result. stereotypes permeate everything...

True there are some really good events. But the majority of hip hop events ive ever had to work at at any club has been trouble.

No club is 100% problem free but its well known in the entertainment industry that hip hop does tend to attract certain bad elements much more often than other genre nights.

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Originally posted by dEsidEL i just find it ironic how many within the electronic dance scene preach open mindedness and acceptance of their music and at the same time hate on a scene like HipHop.. which is not to say that there isn't violence in that scene, however there is quality within it albeit largely overshadowed by stereotypes that are permeated through actions such as this.. every type music has its good and bad artists

But its not about the music and the artists. Its about the element that they attract. Music is music but the crowd that the music brings is what causes the problems.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 True there are some really good events. But the majority of hip hop events ive ever had to work at at any club has been trouble. No club is 100% problem free but its well known in the entertainment industry that hip hop does tend to attract certain bad elements much more often than other genre nights.

Agreed, my BF won't go to those events - mostly because they're so commercial and not the kind of hip hop he enjoys, but also because of the crowd those events attract. He usually makes a point of going to a few quality hip hop events every year, rather than the run of the mill commercial hip hop nights. He's a house head anyways, and there are tons more quality house nights on a weekly basis to keep him occupied!

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Originally posted by sufee_b is he part of the ape unit?

pardonnez-moi?

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Originally posted by Jayx1 It happens mainly at hip hop clubs. I work in the club industry and 99% of any bullshit that goes down at a club happens either on hip hop night or in the hip hop room. Its an industrywide understanding as well.

This is true, and as you said, the old fart politicians and the media don't have a care in the world about distinguishing clubs. Hip Hop events and clubs for the most part give the clubbing industry as a whole a bad name, so a lot of great and safe events suffer for it too.

It's not always hip hop clubs, but usually it is the case. And often, the bigger and more commercial a party, usually that is when the violence and fights occur.

That's also another thing that bugs me, when you see hip hop heads at a rave, and they're not into the music or anything, they're usually just there to pick up chicks.

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Originally posted by Skipper my BF is huge into hip hop...my attitude has totally changed towards it as a result. stereotypes permeate everything...

It's just too bad life needs to imitate art in this instance.
If the scene hadn't morphed into such an egotistical-chest-thumping-nethanderalithic-bling-fest I might even spare a nano-second to acknowledge even 1% of the crap that's put out by that gendre these days...

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