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Posted by Vlad on Mar-14-2006 00:12:

That memo needs to be sent to A-Rod too.


Posted by Enervate on Mar-14-2006 02:17:

i think it was accidently addressed to wakefield.. you can pick on whomever you wish, but it really says a lot about how much you know about baseball to make fun of possibly the best relief pitcher to ever throw a baseball.

quote:
Originally posted by GUBostonDubs
Did Mariano Rivera get the memo not to choke?


Posted by Shamez214 on Mar-14-2006 02:18:

Who cares? It's all about Manny Ramirez!


Posted by GUBostonDubs on Mar-14-2006 02:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Enervate
i think it was accidently addressed to wakefield.. you can pick on whomever you wish, but it really says a lot about how much you know about baseball to make fun of possibly the best relief pitcher to ever throw a baseball.


I know he's a great pitcher but he still choked against the Diamondbacks AND the Red Sox in the playoffs/world series.Pedro Martinez was one of the best pitchers of all time but he pitched awfully against the yankees several times. Rivera is the best closer in the history of baseball imo. If you feel proud that your yankees hit one out against a knuckball pitcher (Wakefield) then more power to ya

Fyi. I've been playing baseball for 16 years....varisty captain, recruited by colleges for pitching....I guess I have no clue at all about baseball


Posted by EarnYourKeep on Mar-14-2006 02:24:

the funny thread already =P lol GO YANKS!


Posted by GUBostonDubs on Mar-14-2006 02:25:

I respect the yankees but If you're going to hate on my sox you can tongue my rectum


Posted by Shamez214 on Mar-14-2006 02:32:

quote:
Originally posted by GUBostonDubs
Pedro Martinez is one of the best pitchers of all time



Posted by GUBostonDubs on Mar-14-2006 02:34:

You're absolutely right. He proves that fact when he's still able to be dominate even though he lost velocity on his fastball. I still miss the 98/99 seasons when he just embarassed hitters with his bugs bunny change up and amazing fastball when it still hit up to 97 98 99. It was just a sight to see. I missed maybe one or two of his starts all season on tv.


Posted by Vlad on Mar-14-2006 03:19:

Id rank Pedro Martinez in the top 5 pitchers of all time. Why? Because he has consistently put up top stats his through his career, and he's doing it in an era dominated by hitters.


Posted by GUBostonDubs on Mar-14-2006 03:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Vlad
Id rank Pedro Martinez in the top 5 pitchers of all time. Why? Because he has consistently put up top stats his through his career, and he's doing it in an era dominated by hitters.


I agree and he can still dominate even if one or more of his pitchs aren't working for him in a game or if his velocity is not very high.


Posted by Shamez214 on Mar-14-2006 03:47:

My opinion is that Pedro Martinez IS the best pitcher of all time. I threw up a whole bunch of facts to back it all up somewhere in the baseball thread last year. The simplest reason is ERA+:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/l...us_career.shtml

# ERA+ - the ratio of the league's ERA (adjusted to the pitcher's ballpark) to that of the pitcher. > 100 is above average and < 100 is below average. lgERA / ERA

1. Pedro Martinez (33) 166 R
2. Lefty Grove+* 148 L
3. Walter Johnson+ 146 R


Posted by EarnYourKeep on Mar-14-2006 12:18:

quote:
Originally posted by GUBostonDubs
Fyi. I've been playing baseball for 16 years....varisty captain, recruited by colleges for pitching....I guess I have no clue at all about baseball


i played D2 in college starting rotation south paw with 4 pitches topping out at 88 with a pitchcount of about 120-130 (50 in the pen)

i know a fuckton about baseball too =) started when i was 6 heheh


Posted by GUBostonDubs on Mar-14-2006 17:10:

quote:
Originally posted by kid nyce
i played D2 in college starting rotation south paw with 4 pitches topping out at 88 with a pitchcount of about 120-130 (50 in the pen)

i know a fuckton about baseball too =) started when i was 6 heheh


That's awesome man. Lefties who throw hard are always sought after. I'm right and topped out at 83-85 mph when i was 17. I haven't really played much in the past couple of years but I'd like to get back into it.


Posted by EarnYourKeep on Mar-14-2006 18:22:

quote:
Originally posted by GUBostonDubs
That's awesome man. Lefties who throw hard are always sought after. I'm right and topped out at 83-85 mph when i was 17. I haven't really played much in the past couple of years but I'd like to get back into it.


I was considering coaching LOL! We can't "get back into it" technically, BUT! there is always softball sunday's which ultimately means drink beers and play softball with a bunch of beergut hangin old timers.


Posted by GUBostonDubs on Mar-14-2006 18:28:

quote:
Originally posted by kid nyce
I was considering coaching LOL! We can't "get back into it" technically, BUT! there is always softball sunday's which ultimately means drink beers and play softball with a bunch of beergut hangin old timers.


well i'm only 21 still and I'm going back to school in the summer/fall and I might try out for the team. Otherwise I'm gonna have to dominate sunday softball


Posted by Shamez214 on Mar-16-2006 04:07:

Cuba!!! That's so awesome. Now... Japan just needs to win today!


Posted by Vlad on Mar-16-2006 04:26:

Question, do you guys think its worth it for me to tryout for my schools baseball team? I got 1 year left of college and I want to do something active - I have a good arm, but I definitely cant pitch (not enough experience) and I have never faced actual pitchers... oh yea, did I mention, my school is Div. 1.

I figure, if I can throw a football @50-55 yards, I can throw a baseball from the outfield to a catcher.


Posted by Shamez214 on Mar-16-2006 04:30:

...

If you've never played organized baseball, no.


Posted by Vlad on Mar-16-2006 04:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Shamez214
...

If you've never played organized baseball, no.



You couldnt just give me false hope?


Posted by EarnYourKeep on Mar-16-2006 12:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Shamez214
...

If you've never played organized baseball, no.



co-sign

you can give it a run to test your athleticism but theres a good chance you'll make yourself look bad. granted the basic fundamentals are easy to pick up, just the strategy and knowing the game is something hard to execute when there are bang-bang plays. meaning you already knew what you was going to do before you did it (advancing bases, hypothetical situations, knowing what the opponent is going to do). it's an organized mental strategy where you know your teammates abilities and how to take advantage of the other team. i say go for it, but don't be surprised if people laugh at your under their breathe or behind your back...i say it'll be a good way to get a good feel for the game...that is if you can ignore those other players....


Posted by Vlad on Mar-16-2006 19:06:

I dont care about the other players, I want to do it for myself. Ive played in organized football leagues and I did apply for Miami but I got rejected because of my grades. LIU does have a football program, but its on another campus which is Div. 2 and I applied to play Safety, but they said I couldnt transfer from a Div. 1 campus to a Div. 2 campus - which sucks donkey anus!


Posted by Vlad on Mar-28-2006 21:12:

You know what I find the most interesting thing about baseball, when drafting rookies you never go to the actual team. I think its the only sport in the world that has such a depth of farm teams. Its amazing to think how hard a sport could be if it takes some people almost a decade to get out of the farm leagues - particularly pitchers.


Posted by trunks1022 on Mar-28-2006 21:29:

ice hockey


Posted by Vlad on Mar-28-2006 22:03:

quote:
Originally posted by trunks1022
ice hockey



Its not as deep, also, nobody cares about the hockey farm teams really. But in baseball - the farm teams are very very important and real fans pay close attention to them.


Posted by trunks1022 on Mar-28-2006 22:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Vlad
Its not as deep, also, nobody cares about the hockey farm teams really. But in baseball - the farm teams are very very important and real fans pay close attention to them.


haha then you sir are sorely mistaken about hockey and their fans too


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