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Re: How would you rate DJs?

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Originally posted by AC-Milan I think it's not fair how DJs are rated nowdays. In my opinion, headliners need to be separated into three or more categories (e.g. house, trance and techno) and then get their ratings within their category. Due to the fact that the Europeans and Asians are crazy about trance, we're seeing all the trancers occupying top 10 spots meaking virtually impossible for djs who specialize in House music to get to the top 3. Personally, that's how I would rate dj House Trance 1. Steve Lawler 1. Ferry Corsten 2. Nic Fanciulli 2. Armin Van Buuren 3. Desyn Masiello 3. Tiesto 4. Hernan Cattaneo 4. Markus Schulz 5. Deep Dish 5. Johan Gielen

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Originally posted by Jem_hadar What about Breakbeat, Jungle, DnB, Happy Hardcore etc. Other "main" gengres?

Other than breakbeat these aren't worth rating at all. I would be happy never hearing jungle, DnB, and especially Hardcore ever again.

U know, I enjoy seeing who people think are the best. But how many times have you looked at a tracklist in a top 100 dj's set and been like who's that guy? You look him up find some beats and he/she is unreal. Or how many times have you heard a track in a club that just makes your night, yet you've never heard of it, and no one else has either(ie. half of nick warren's set on sat). The Dj's that produce and spin, live for their tracks to be spun by a top 100 DJ. Some of them even just live for the accomplishment in making an amazing track. The point is, rankings are cool, but even #1006 can be a fantastic DJ, and may just be too into their own local scene to really push themselves to gain international appeal. Last thing i'll say! Never ever mention my boy Deko-ze in a 2nd rate tone. Any man that can spin like him, have that much energy behind the decks, and produce tracks as amazing as "the calling" is #1 in my heart.

Ablefunk

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Originally posted by miketg23 Other than breakbeat these aren't worth rating at all. I would be happy never hearing jungle, DnB, and especially Hardcore ever again.

I dont like ANY of those genres except for HHC, but if he's proposing a break down of EDM music, we need to include all main genres.

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Originally posted by miketg23 Other than breakbeat these aren't worth rating at all. I would be happy never hearing jungle, DnB, and especially Hardcore ever again.

difference of opinion..let people enjoy what they like

Listen, all I'm saying that they are talented djs like DekoZe and there are more talented djs than DekoZe like Lawler, Masiello, Ali & Sharam and others who by no luck happened to be headliners. Nobody is denying Deko's talent, but equating him to Desyn or Lawler is just plain retarted. If DekoZe is better than most headliners why isn't there a demand for him to spin at some of the greatest parties in Ibiza? You can say that it's a matter of marketing, but how come we had somebody invest in Armin or Ferry, but not in DekoZe ?....could it be because he's not as good as them?
Anyways, you guys need to take it easy on me because you're attacking me like hungry vultures
The whole world decides who the best djs are, not us in Toronto.

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Originally posted by AC-Milan Listen, all I'm saying that they are talented djs like DekoZe and there are more talented djs than DekoZe like Lawler, Masiello, Ali & Sharam and others who by no luck happened to be headliners. Nobody is denying Deko's talent, but equating him to Desyn or Lawler is just plain retarted. If DekoZe is better than most headliners why isn't there a demand for him to spin at some of the greatest parties in Ibiza? You can say that it's a matter of marketing, but how come we had somebody invest in Armin or Ferry, but not in DekoZe ?....could it be because he's not as good as them? Anyways, you guys need to take it easy on me because you're attacking me like hungry vultures The whole world decides who the best djs are, not us in Toronto.

The truth of the matter is....if you had the top 10 DJs all spinning the same tracks in one night and you couldn't see which DJ was which you probably wouldn't be able to tell them apart.....then you throw some local DJs or even some TOTA DJs in there and you probably wouldn't be able to tell who were the TOTA DJs. When DJs reach the level of headliner the actual skills of DJing are not what make them headliners....its the little things they do such as crowd interaction, marketing (which includes CD releases and such)

I can honestly say that my best nights out are the nights when I go to the Purple Room and hear Tim, Dennis and Barry spinning...sure partly it's the crowd but you can tell that they are doing this because they love the music....not because they are getting tens of thousands of dollars to do it.

You also have to remember some of the local DJs have made the decision to have other priorities then fame. Deko-ze travels all over the place and has played along side many of the top DJs. Mark Oliver has decided that family is important to him and he has stayed put in the GTA for that reason. Not all DJs are looking for fame.

i can tell u one thing for sure tho...if i had to rate a dj on skills.....

(can someone finish that sentence for me??)

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Originally posted by El Kay Dee i can tell u one thing for sure tho...if i had to rate a dj on skills.....

I'd listen to Z103.5

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Originally posted by AC-Milan It's like comparing Kia to BMW and saying as long as they're both drivable, why rate?

you're being ruled by image. if you have a blue hat of very good quality, and a blue hat of slightly lesser quality but with a nike swoosh woven in, it is thought to be of higher value. Put dj tiesto at the top of the media for the past couple years, and he is thought of to be of 'higher value'

but when you really stop to think about it...why? he plays other ppls music, he doesn't bring out musical instruments, he doesn't do cool light show for the crowd, he doesn't dance on the stage (although i heard he performed magic tricks

point being, i could go out and play very good trance music, a la tieso. and if my mixing was awesome, whats to say i wouldn't be as good as tiesto?


sometimes ppl have to step back from the media and realize, its only 'image' and the 'celebrity status' of the person they're really after.

its not about who is better in any of these polls about who listen to who more and you knows who more. some people say they like someone and they might like somebody better but they just never heard of them.

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Originally posted by AC-Milan I think it's not fair how DJs are rated nowdays. In my opinion, headliners need to be separated into three or more categories (e.g. house, trance and techno) House Trance 1. Steve Lawler 1. Ferry Corsten 2. Nic Fanciulli 2. Armin Van Buuren 3. Desyn Masiello 3. Tiesto 4. Hernan Cattaneo 4. Markus Schulz 5. Deep Dish 5. Johan Gielen

LOL, I love how you bring up Techno in the first part, but then strategicly leave it out in your list, bc based on your lists you probably dont know any.

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Originally posted by Plump Funk you can't rate Art

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Re: Re: How would you rate DJs?

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Originally posted by iLiptikalOrbitZ bc based on your lists you probably dont know any.

Don worry he probably know AC-milan.

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Originally posted by AC-Milan there are more talented djs than DekoZe like Lawler, Masiello, Ali & Sharam and others who by no luck happened to be headliners.

apples and oranges.

there is no need to argue where a dj sits in the grand scheme of things when it comes to being a headliner or local. if this argument was started last year, people would be putting sean miller in the 'local' group - but we all know how things have worked out for him.

people supporting local dj's is the first step to having them evolve to that 'next level'. if we start labeling, then the potential for growth is no longer, and we would be hearing the same fucking dj's until we turn 40.

so why dont you all just keep listening to the dj's YOU enjoy, and keep the dj recycling process in working order so we have fresh talent that will keep our music/scene fresh, new and innovative.

EOD.

screw the poll a dj is as good as his last set.

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Originally posted by Plump Funk screw the poll a dj is as goos as his last set.

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screw you i dont read my comment 20 times before i post.

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Originally posted by Plump Funk screw you i dont read my comment 20 times before i post.

lol i know its a typo cos 's' and 'd' are right beside each other...it was just funny what it translated to

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Originally posted by El Kay Dee lol i know its a typo cos 's' and 'd' are right beside each other

bitches better recognize.

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Originally posted by AC-Milan The whole world decides who the best djs are, not us in Toronto.

Go into another regional forum and ask people what they think about the DJ MAG poll and how accurate it is. I can bet you that you'll get similar answers. And believe me, you're not the first person to come on here and proclaim that DJ's at the top of the poll are the best ones; and that popularity somehow equals talent. Not to knock the talent and hardwork of the guys at the top, but by no means does the DJ MAG poll reflect ones talent, OR hardwork.

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH Go into another regional forum and ask people what they think about the DJ MAG poll and how accurate it is. I can bet you that you'll get similar answers. And believe me, you're not the first person to come on here and proclaim that DJ's at the top of the poll are the best ones; and that popularity somehow equals talent. Not to knock the talent and hardwork of the guys at the top, but by no means does the DJ MAG poll reflect ones talent, OR hardwork.

yeah no kidding. i totally agree with this!

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH Go into another regional forum and ask people what they think about the DJ MAG poll and how accurate it is. I can bet you that you'll get similar answers. And believe me, you're not the first person to come on here and proclaim that DJ's at the top of the poll are the best ones; and that popularity somehow equals talent. Not to knock the talent and hardwork of the guys at the top, but by no means does the DJ MAG poll reflect ones talent, OR hardwork.

Best post in the thread and words can't explain how much I agree.

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Originally posted by SPANIARD Best post in the thread and words can't explain how much I agree.

i liked mine way better.

Sooo true

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Originally posted by Plump Funk screw the poll a dj is as good as his last set.

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