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Originally posted by Kapedan I know man, Im not againts it, its just fucking lame to get some slut to have sex with u, i know there are plenty of sickos out there, but like Shakka brought up the point of STDs and stuff..thats where you kind of cross the line imo.

I have an answer to the STD thing...all the public schools have to do (fuck the bible belt cause they are too stupid to address real problems) is show the movie Kids in 7th grade...NO ONE WILL EEEEEEEVVVVVVVVEEEEEEEEER be fucking, period. much less without condoms and with any random person lol.

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Originally posted by Kapedan I know man, Im not againts it, its just fucking lame to get some slut to have sex with u

as if there's a lack of people doing the same thing just with more effort, time and money spent...

sex slavery is very real, even in countries like australia where the sex industry is miniscule compared to countries in Europe. Such examples would include a woman from Thailand that seeks a better life in a first world country like Australia, she will arrange to get herself smuggled into Australia, where the people smugglers will pay the plane tickets, forge the necessary documents and passports, teach them enough english to get through customs. Once she is in Australia she has to work off this debt (which from memory can be around 40K) which means she will be imprisoned in the brothel (i've forgotten how long, but it could be around a decade) all money going towards the smugglers. The crux is that these women enter into these arrangements fully aware of what will happen, aware that there is a very real chance of being the victim of domestic violence and rape, but the grass is always greener...

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Originally posted by trancaholic Yesterday in a news broadcast in Denmark, a reporter documenting his feat by a hidden camera, bought himself a sex slave in Romania. Price tag was about $2000, and he was free to take the girl with him. Apparently the local organized crime units threaten the girls with severe consequences to their families if they don't accept their fate. I'd say that that borderlines "forcing a woman to be a prostitute", but I guess it all depends on how you feel about your family.

try and find a foreign film, i think it's russian, called "Lilya 4 Eva" it's about a young girl in the former soviet union who is forced into sex slavery in Sweden, extremely sad brilliant movie

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try and find a foreign film, i think it's russian, called "Lilya 4 Eva" it's about a young girl in the former soviet union who is forced into sex slavery in Sweden, extremely sad brilliant movie

Unless she's a farm animal I expect business isn't so good . Where is st_Andrew anyway?

Born Into Brothels is supposed to be pretty good ... it's on my netflix list.

I've seen Sex Slavery first hand in Cambodia, and Thailand; the women live as cattle, to serve the every whim of these rich balding, slightly obese, sixty year olds from first world countries who've flown down for a sex holidays.

I agree with legalising prostituion, the more the government can set up laws that allow prostituion but protect the rights of the workers the better. It's like the war on drugs, no matter how long this war will be waged it can never be won, Holland has the best approach.

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Originally posted by Shakka But to answer your question, I don't know. We have heard of plenty of historical figures that were whorespawn (sorry, the word just had a ring to it). Of course, in the same breath, the average life expectancy was also much lower. Potentially mitigating factors?

One of the Popes in the renaissance was wrapped around the little finger of a prostitute. I think a few of his sons were from her, she had considerable power in the papacy aswell. The 'companions' (i think they were called that) back then got a lot more respect. sorry for being vague, my brain fucken suckls atm for some reason, too much alcohol on the weekend i think

Born Into Brothels is brilliant occy, it was on one of our free to air stations two weeks ago

isn't it in sweden that laws are strict towards the customers??

and Btw St_andrew well he told me he didn't want to go on TA because he wanted to have more time for school that's his "plan" as he told me last night but yeah sweden should open brothels with animals to satisfy customers .....St_andrew would be in heaven

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Originally posted by Lepanto I have an answer to the STD thing...all the public schools have to do (fuck the bible belt cause they are too stupid to address real problems) is show the movie Kids in 7th grade...NO ONE WILL EEEEEEEVVVVVVVVEEEEEEEEER be fucking, period. much less without condoms and with any random person lol.

I've never seen that movie.


Yeah I'd use the Nevada model where it is regulated and the women have to have regular exams and tests for STDs, and I think local or state communities should be able to vote on it.

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Originally posted by DaveSZ I've never seen that movie. Yeah I'd use the Nevada model where it is regulated and the women have to have regular exams and tests for STDs, and I think local or state communities should be able to vote on it.

Well, you should look into it. Trust me on this lol.

You know what's funny....I keep hearing "legal prostitution" and "men's needs" and "girls check ups" and all that BUT...wouldn't it be fair for WOMEN to be able to get prostitutes, too? O0o0o0o now you start thinking twice about it.

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Originally posted by Lepanto O0o0o0o now you start thinking twice about it.

Not really. To do so would be blatantly hypocritical. In Denmark there's male prostitutes - and both women and men are catered to.

yeah I was talking about the movie monster, it is good enough reason for me to think that there must be a way out of the sex trade for people who get tired of working there. Prosititution is fine by me as long as people aren't getting abused. How many other industries would hire an ex-hooker? The problem is that prostitution can become a hole that people cannot climb out of once they are in it, and it is wrong to allow that to happen because it is tantamount to forced sex labor.

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Originally posted by Lepanto ...wouldn't it be fair for WOMEN to be able to get prostitutes, too?

Of course.

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Originally posted by Zombie0915 yeah I was talking about the movie monster, it is good enough reason for me to think that there must be a way out of the sex trade for people who get tired of working there. Prosititution is fine by me as long as people aren't getting abused. How many other industries would hire an ex-hooker? The problem is that prostitution can become a hole that people cannot climb out of once they are in it, and it is wrong to allow that to happen because it is tantamount to forced sex labor.

You've got a point.

I think the sex slave aspect of prostitution needs to be addressed, and it's quite reprehensible.

On the other hand, I don't have a problem if it's sex between two consenting adults in exchange for money.

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Originally posted by CranberryJuice so it was on the news again ....for u european u maybe know that in germany prostitution is legal and brothels are a common thing ....so as u know in next june it's the world cup in germany so they were showing that next to the berlin stadium they built like a big brothel very luxurous with sauna and swimming pool and bedrooms for the future customers .....the owner of the brother was saying a lot of supporters will probably go to have some fun and that all this future money will be good as well for berlin's city they also interviewed a prostitute ( very ugly one but had a nice body) and she said indeed she was paying taxes had welfare and it was good that here in germany prostitution is legal .....right now there are around 400,000 prostitutes in germany (not all of them are voluntaries) but everyday in germany 1 million of customers go see the prostitutes (when u think germany has like 82 millions of people !!!) but what do u think? in france brothels have been closed decades ago but some debates are still on to see if we should open them up again..... im pretty mixed up actually ....of course it would be a good idea if prostitutes were having welfare in case they get sick or ....and everything but it's hard for me to believe that some girls become prostitutes by choice ....im sure it exists but to me it's a minority ....to me most of girls become prostitutes because of networks ..mafia and pimps ...so i just wanted your opinion about legal prostitution

Here you go:

http://today.reuters.com/news/newsA...&archived=False

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Originally posted by Lepanto O0o0o0o now you start thinking twice about it.

yeah, cause we all regret what we said here now

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Originally posted by Psy-T how can one be forced into a legal industry? (except the military )

I recall a story about a German woman living in a jurisdiction that had legal prostitution that was denied social assistance because she turned down a job as a prostitute. I wish I had more details on this but it was a quick hit news headline on the radio and I was out of my truck before they came back from commercial to give the rest of the story.

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Originally posted by CranberryJuice and Btw St_andrew well he told me he didn't want to go on TA because he wanted to have more time for school that's his "plan" as he told me last night but yeah sweden should open brothels with animals to satisfy customers .....St_andrew would be in heaven

So what's with the name change?

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard I recall a story about a German woman living in a jurisdiction that had legal prostitution that was denied social assistance because she turned down a job as a prostitute. I wish I had more details on this but it was a quick hit news headline on the radio and I was out of my truck before they came back from commercial to give the rest of the story.

thats the shit im talking about, prostitution should only be legalized when we are absolutely sure that everyone who becomes a prostitute wants to be a prostitute, and when people want to quit prostititing themselves have a reasonable amount of other choices. We cant hae legal prostitution sucking people in who do not want to be there.

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Originally posted by Psy-T yeah, cause we all regret what we said here now

you, ofcourse, speak for ALL the men. let me guess you're just going to go to that whole "men have different needs" or something lol?

point wasn't that women don't have these needs but men always have double standards and arguing against that is foolish. i can garauntee that at least here in the States, if they try to make both male and female prostitution legal men will object. they think they can go out and do whatever and still expect their women to be faithfull to them.

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Originally posted by Zombie0915 thats the shit im talking about, prostitution should only be legalized when we are absolutely sure that everyone who becomes a prostitute wants to be a prostitute, and when people want to quit prostititing themselves have a reasonable amount of other choices. We cant hae legal prostitution sucking people in who do not want to be there.

Come on. Except in very specific examples, that statement is a load of crap. Prostitution "sucks people in who don't want to be there?" You could make the same argument for every single damn profession in the world. We can't have the legal system making lawyers out of people who don't want to be lawyers. In the end, it's all about a business that generates income for people. Don't diss prostitution simply because it can be a lucrative job that requires very little effort. That's not forcing someone to do something, that's providing a powerful incentive for someone who may only be concerned with making as much money possible for as little work as possible.

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Originally posted by Lepanto you, ofcourse, speak for ALL the men. let me guess you're just going to go to that whole "men have different needs" or something lol? point wasn't that women don't have these needs but men always have double standards and arguing against that is foolish. i can garauntee that at least here in the States, if they try to make both male and female prostitution legal men will object. they think they can go out and do whatever and still expect their women to be faithfull to them.

yes, and that last paragraph applies perfectly to the PDD posters you tried to shock with that question...

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard I recall a story about a German woman living in a jurisdiction that had legal prostitution that was denied social assistance because she turned down a job as a prostitute. I wish I had more details on this but it was a quick hit news headline on the radio and I was out of my truck before they came back from commercial to give the rest of the story.

and if prostitution was not legal there, which occupation would you replace it with in the quote "german woman...was denied social assistance because she turned down a job as a ____"?

point being: would an alternative to prostitution in that blank disturb you to the same degree?

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Originally posted by Psy-T and if prostitution was not legal there, which occupation would you replace it with in the quote "german woman...was denied social assistance because she turned down a job as a ____"? point being: would an alternative to prostitution in that blank disturb you to the same degree?

nope but it would millions of people . so what you saying is some woman/girl/female/w/e denied a job as a prostitute? Good. so she has morals and dignity.

which degrading job? hmm, secratary could be degrading to her, as could be a crosswalk crossing helper, special ed teacher, garbage..women?, lol etc.

more importantly, you honestly think that prostitution will decrease rape significantly or anything of that nature? i doubt it. also, alot of these prostitution rings (in less developed i guess is the word) countries are organized and ran by mobs and criminals, white collar or so. so what good will legal prostitution bring? except if it's controlled, less spread of STDs due to sexual intercourse.

Legal prostitution is going a bit far a la dutch style IMO, however controlled drug use would be good I think.

I dont mean, let everyone take drugs a few times a month under any circumstances, but if you are classified as a clear ADDICT with no real hope of return, government controlled facilities that just give you the cleanest and safest drugs and keep you away from everyone else... that would be a good idea, in my opinion.

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Originally posted by Psy-T and if prostitution was not legal there, which occupation would you replace it with in the quote "german woman...was denied social assistance because she turned down a job as a ____"? point being: would an alternative to prostitution in that blank disturb you to the same degree?

If she turned down a job as a waitress and was therefore denied assistance I would not be disturbed at all. You have to keep in mind that many people have a deep routed moral objection to prostitution which could make it extremely difficult to live with themselves if they engaged in it. Additionally, there are a multitude of personal health and safety risks associated with this profession that one must consider and chances are many constitutions would hold one cannot be forced to accept (certainly Canada's right to security of the person would fall into this catagory). Now, I'm actually in favour of legalizing the sex trade, however, if one were to do that special allowances need to be made with regard to all manner of Social Assistance programs, health and disability insurance polices, workman's compensation plans, etc. in order to ensure these institutions/companies could not force people to enter the sex trade or lose their benefits. That is simply unacceptable as it is essentially legislating morality much the same as making prostitution illegal has been an attempt to legislate morality.

The problem of a women being turned down for unemployment insurance because she turned down a job to be a prostitute can�t be that prevalent of a problem. I mean, being a stripper is pretty much legal everywhere, and I haven�t heard of any cases where a woman was denied unemployment insurance because she refused to be a stripper. It seems to me that there are plenty of women in the west who are on unemployment insurance, and I doubt that as part of the terms of their unemployment agreement they were all asked if they ever turned down stripping which would negate their right to unemployment. So I think that it�s a moot point with respect to prostitution unless there is substantial empirical evidence to suggest otherwise with universally legal "amoral" activities such as stripping, the adult entertainment industry, etc.

I absolutely agree with Occrider and Shakka.

There is really no difference between going to a strip club and prostitution, because in both cases you're paying money for sexual services. So nearly every male has used a sexual service at least once, e.g. getting a lap dance, etc.

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