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someones angry

Just a few thoughts from the so-called "tits"

You guys come off really arrogant and dull-witted sometimes (not all of you).

You can do what you will, and you will. So I am merely shedding some unorthodox opinions. Don't flame the "tit".

But, no one knows who we really are, and no one knows who you really are anyway. Many of you are glorified amateurs anyway. Ego delusions do not equal reality.

Derogatory terms and epithets do not inspire community.

Rules were made to be broken, and they will be.

Most people do not run on this forum to spam. Many of us, like me, stand in somewhat awe of your more advanced sound skills. You should be enjoying our happy, breathless comments instead of disparaging us. I've posted reviews on threads started by almost every negative person in this thread. Only one has ever reviewed my little newbie track post and pointed me to greater skill (thx kopi).

Ironically, continuing to deteriorate a potentially vibrant community with rule-bound hurdles will always increase the chaos and misery as it has through human history. When love, life and music have left the building, in come the rule makers, niche grabbers, and genre hair-splitters. You will have pages of dry minutiae then as there will be no brotherhood.

I am not responding to this thread per se. Since I joined weeks ago, you see one of these threads (usually from the same people) every 3-4 days.

You don't think this will hurt future members participation? I assure it will . . . Since you all seem so intent on having an incestuous relationship of unsuccessful wanna-bes, you should start a newbie forum banned to *cough* pros I've never heard of, so we can have fun, make friends and make music.


Your forum soon will fully degenerate to the online equivalent of the nerdy audovisual clubs in high-school, full of future directors who can't get dates and collect state welfare monies to buy cheese.

p.s. feel free to flame and/or ban me, I could give a shit anyway. Probably be a mark of distinction in some places.

pps I can't actually exist very long anywhere without revealing my true nature, so take me with a grain of salt.

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Originally posted by djglacial I'm not sure if this was implied or not, but I think this would be a good idea if it were only applied to the music producers promotion forum. I think new users NEED to be able to post new threads in the studio forum, or else there's little reason to join. I know when I join forums, it's usually on a whim, because I couldn't find the answer to something by searching. Then it's off to the reg screen. New users of the forums are usually new producers anyway, so why would they need to use the promotion thread? And any pro producers that have some particular reason for joining would be fairly easily spotted anyway. I assume the mods are able to change user status on this forum (afterall, they're able to ban.) But I think the posted limits have been a little crazy so far. I say two months, 50 posts. Spammers are not going to stick around that long posting random comments, especially if the limits are not advertised. Whether you agree with my limits or not, I think you should keep in mind that the production studio is more for newbs, and the promotion studio is more for experienced producers. Maybe an amature song review forum could work, as then the newbs would be directed there by name alone as well, and the purpose would be more clear. Anyway, good idea, but I think it should be limited to the Promotion Forum. [edit] And what's the point of newbs reviewing your track anyway... How bout not worrying about that.

Good points

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Originally posted by Liquid8 Tranceaddict is an open forum, there's a lot of people that are not registered and who come here to check the stuff e.t.c.. and there's no question about making the forum closed for everyone besides only some group of "professional super-reviewers". .

I dont think having a 2 month trial period with thread creation restriction in the MPP is too much to ask for (though it may not be an achievable website script??), and its defintlely not for the purpose of creating segregated group of elitist reviewers lol. It's just an idea to weed out a little bit of spam

on your previous comment, the reason you only got one review is because you didnt review anyone else well no one who has posted on this thread apart from kopi (maybe). when i joined here i posted comments on peoples threads before posting my own. it took a while before anyone really posted more than 1 comment on mine. you dont make friends and earn reviews by coming off with this maddness. where is your track and ill have a listen.

sorry djkane I double posted and was deleting the pre-edit while you were typing.

No, I actually only reviewed. I don't have a track at all to hear right now. I had one, real newbie, put it up with qualifiers and got some simple tips on mixing etc. My track didn't even have a bassline. I wasn't looking for a listen now or then, really. I don't know what I'm doing-- really. That point is not debatable. The soundclick page doesn't have anything anymore, and I haven't made anything. When I have a track in a few months, I'll make sure you see it. But I don't know if I want to write trance really. I just like this forum and others like it because I love music.

Which is the point. Not everyone is seeking ego-gratification or trying to drain your precious creative energy. Lighten up, kid.

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Originally posted by Liquid8 [QUOTE]Originally posted by Liquid8 You should be aware that it's not reviewers who are coming here for you to write comments, but it's you who're coming here to get reviews. If you're not happy with the number (or quality) of comments you're receiving here, [QUOTE]so just go to a professional reviewer and ask him to do a detailed review of the track. I'm telling "YOU", but I mean any person which would want to make the kind of changement you proposed.

I dont need to go to ask to a professional reviewer, every time someone releases my tunes I get professional reviews, this site helps u out to the beta versions so when a professional does a review other producers had pointed out the issues.

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very interesting, but I still don't see your point. because what you're telling is that if you have less 'bad' comments, then you have more 'good' ones.. but that's just wrong that way you'll be just filtering 'useless' (in your opinion) comments, but it will never help to have more good reviews.

Dont missunderstand quality with more good comments, if I only get one review, but that review is really helpful (Quality one), I am done, that was all what I needed, I usually delete my threads after two or three days, this is not a popularity contest or sort of, after those 2, 3 days I get all the sugesstion and work on the track again dude.

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Now if you care about your hosting traffic, your solution won't help neither. Tranceaddict is an open forum, there's a lot of people that are not registered and who come here to check the stuff e.t.c.. and there's no question about making the forum closed for everyone besides only some group of "professional super-reviewers".

Sorry, but who on earth is talking about host traffic?

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You should be aware that it's not reviewers who are coming here for you to write comments, but it's you who're coming here to get reviews

Actually, you are wrong, is a reciprocal thing, I review much more than the times I ask for review btw, just see my number of replys, in all my TA history, I have made about 30 threads with tunes to be reviewed, and I have above 1200 posts, and I only enter to the producers forum, except for 10 or 20 times I have been in other sections of TA, so it's obvious u dont have a point there mate.
I see why you are upset off with my comment, you have been here about a year and you have only 71 posts, so you are feeling like we want to take you away from this section indirectly .
BTW, we are only sugesting and giving our personal opinions, we are not TA staff at all or sort of, TA staff obviously have more experience than ous and they are too much more objetives, I am sure they will do what it is correct for all, new users, regular users, old school users, etc etc.
Kopi =o.

lol this thread has become an argument.

nice thread rich

yeah, rich, lol
great thread. Everyone's kung-fu fighting

i understand people getting pissed with so called 'pro's' trying to ban them from a 'so-called pro's' forum..

but no!

every guy that has placed a comment on this thread is a true trance addict. they care!

majustu - i know where you are coming from. you are new here.. but someone like you is watching the community and adding to it positively - you prove it with watching this thread.

i think that an intro period would be awsome. 50 posts and 1 month or so. i know i would put the graft into being part of this community. it is one of a kind! there aint a place like this for house, d+b, hip hop etc etc. this is it! if a newb replies to my track i will review thiers. dj kane for example (now i regard him as a true TA ). i love his stuff. i listened to his track cos he listend to mine and reviewed it. kopi- i got pissed off with him when i was a newb cos he grilled the problems with my 'yahel' rmx...etc etc etc. now cos of that i noticed kopis threads and always check and post a comment of his work.

now majustu... i will remember your name like these two i have mentioned and will review your track when you post it. cos you have stayed in my memory.

imagine everything linked here in this type of way.. so serious people earn the right to join the other 'serious' people.

if i saw a new user who had earned the right to post their tracks then i would check the track out and reply with a review. and hopefully they would do the same for me..

rickdawg... you love my scarf! u just a jealous c#%t! (as you would say in your filthy mouth.. he he)

rich

i actually like the scarf rich. rick has no taste in clothing. lol

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Originally posted by dj_kane i actually like the scarf rich. rick has no taste in clothing. lol

ha ha! you ll hate the scarf afer reading my latest review...lol..

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Originally posted by dj_kane i actually like the scarf rich. rick has no taste in clothing. lol

I can't believe you'd wear a scarf like that barry...you've let me down

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Originally posted by RickyM I can't believe you'd wear a scarf like that barry...you've let me down

i have started knitting you both one.. ricky - yours is a pink tone

come on now rick you really like it. lol. what scarf's do you wear?

I don't wear scarves, I can take the weather

I wear scarves, anyway... back to the point, luving the ideas here as i complain about shit like this all the time, 6 moths and 200 posts is fine to me.

I've come up with this idea:

People should include a short sample in their threads.

This way people can first take a quick listen to your track, before downloading the hi-fi full version. It would take care of a problem listed before: People don't have to get through a whole lot of trouble to just "see" if your track's o.k.

You pick the most interesting part of your song, and make a sample out of it. If we all would do this, it would sure speed things up.

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Originally posted by websley I've come up with this idea: People should include a short sample in their threads. This way people can first take a quick listen to your track, before downloading the hi-fi full version. It would take care of a problem listed before: People don't have to get through a whole lot of trouble to just "see" if your track's o.k. You pick the most interesting part of your song, and make a sample out of it. If we all would do this, it would sure speed things up.

Meh - these days it only takes a couple of minutes to download a full tune in high quality, there's not much point in that. Besides, I ignore all clips as it is, I only want to hear full tunes anyway...

dont know if somebody mentoined already or maybe its just a very stupid idea but what about making producer threads.

every producer just gets one thread to post all his stuff. the headline has to contain a standart-form like for example 'soundrush's thread - ' the text after the hyphen and the threads can be editeted and updatet when a new track is finished.

after some time the threads will be growing and you can see everyones development by just looking at his thread.

there wont be thousend of different threads anymore i think.

also just producers with at least one finished track (doesnt matter if its amateur or pro) will be allowed to make an own thread.
the others could post there stuff to a single sample thread or something like that.

this might be working i think.

why try to create solution to such small-scale "problem" ?

creating a TIT forum would not be a good idea... that's like "here's a forum for your n00bs, we'll be chilling in the pro forum" ehhhhhhh


i've seen other forum communities that do similar things and now i'm no longer part of them. # of posts, ranks, and all that realyl shouldn't matter. i don't count how many times i post in a day, i just browse the forums every now and then and review a couple tracks. some people have more free time than others. there have been times wher ei haven't visited the site in weeks and weeks.


if people aren't getting replies to their music, then there must be a good reason why. i hate it when people start complaining about how their threads don't get responses. THOSE kids are the true noobs, i don't care how "supreme" of a TA they are.


this community is a really relaxed one and friendly one, let's not make it all uptight like some other ones that are on the web.

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