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Posted by Frenchie on Mar-26-2006 22:52:

quote:
Originally posted by FunkyGroove
yeah i agree

try living next to Jane & Finch, yo! i despise our pubnites coz of that


Ok J/F area isn't that bad. I stayed there for a while with a friend of mine and I don't see what all the hype was about.

I lived downtown Regent Park for 3 months before I moved where I am now, and that is 10x worse then J/F. GOD, the first night the first night that I stayed in Regent Park, i HEARD GUN SHOTS, and I jumped into my cousins bed and held her because I was scared and she told me, " Oh Tricia, dont worry, you get used to it, happens all the time" So next morning when I woke up, the beautiful civic that was parked in front of the house had 3 bullet holes in it, that were not there the night before.


Posted by infinity HiGH on Mar-26-2006 23:10:

quote:
Originally posted by hardcore trancer
How I wish Canada wasnt neighbor to the U.S.


yea cause its america's fault there's shootings here


Posted by djbruuen on Mar-26-2006 23:19:

yeh i hate the club district area...in terms of safety, i feel 1000x safer at places like guvernment which is away from there...so many shitty clubs, attracting a lot of shitty ppl who want to cause trouble.

i still remember seeing david guetta in october at lot 332, metero is right beside it and there was this long line of thugs waiting to get in, sure enough, when i left, there was police tape sectioning off that area. its so pathetic how this is what you have to expect in this neighbourhood.


Posted by hardcore trancer on Mar-26-2006 23:22:

quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
yea cause its america's fault there's shootings here


Hiphop and the thug culture and guns are the problem here and where are the coming from?thats right U.S of A


Posted by Frenchie on Mar-26-2006 23:23:

I completly agree.
I won't step foot down there anymore. Not only am I a little worried, but I don't want to be paranoid as I dance. . .*looking around every 2 minutes, not bumping into the wrong person,,fuck that.... blast up the music in my room and go nuts.


Posted by drgoodvibe on Mar-26-2006 23:24:

Remember boys and girls the club district has to cater to it's customers for their mighty $$.

Why do you think we don't see a whole lot of alternative media, music, etc... events anymore? Our entire culture has taken steps towards homogeneity. And unfortunately the HipHop, pimpstar, thug life, has become our mainstream. We are a pop culture.. so as business owners they have to cater to the masses. This is what people want! Supply and Demand! All the while the people are force-fed this tripe to increase that Demand and there is no end in sight, it�s a vicious cycle.


Posted by hardcore trancer on Mar-26-2006 23:24:

quote:
Originally posted by djbruuen
i still remember seeing david guetta in october at lot 332, metero is right beside it and there was this long line of thugs waiting to get in, sure enough, when i left, there was police tape sectioning off that area. its so pathetic how this is what you have to expect in this neighbourhood.



That night they had the Sean Paul concert after party there and someone got shot inside the club.

I say fuck am all and let them kill eachother untill they all die.


Posted by dEsidEL on Mar-26-2006 23:26:

quote:
Originally posted by drgoodvibe
Remember boys and girls the club district has to cater to it's customers for their mighty $$.

Why do you think we don't see a whole lot of alternative media, music, etc... events anymore? Our entire culture has taken steps towards homogeneity. And unfortunately the HipHop, pimpstar, thug life, has become our mainstream. We are a pop culture.. so as business owners they have to cater to the masses. This is what people want! Supply and Demand! All the while the people are force-fed this tripe to increase that Demand and there is no end in sight, it�s a vicious cycle.



quote:


Ear To The Ground
Update - December 5, 2005

We understand that some members of the Toronto indie arts community are looking for information regarding refunds in the wake of the cancellation of Ear To The Ground. We apologize for the delay in providing information, but over the past few months we�ve had a number of issues, both internally and externally to work out, while trying to assess our position and paying back as many exhibitors and passholders as possible within a reasonable period of time.

When we started the festival, the goal was to put on a celebration of independent art and music that would challenge the mainstream. In order to fit with these ideals, our fundraising initiatives took on a more grassroots effort, the success of which was moderate � not unexpected for a first-year effort. As with any not-for-profit arts event, advance pass sales were a key part of our budget. Every non-for-profit arts festival relies on advance sales in order to help cover expenses and provide a barometer of potential audience attendance. Ultimately, those advance sales fell well short of budgeted requirements, regardless of the existence of other sources of funding. Poor advance sales have been responsible for the fall of many other festivals as well, both in and outside of Toronto.

Upon being presented with production bills in excess of what we had budgeted for, the decision was made to move the event from Exhibition Place, instead of cancelling outright, which, in hindsight, would have made more sense. Many artists and passholders were unhappy with the idea of turning it into a series of club shows, and rather than risk considerable financial losses, the decision was made, with heavy hearts, to cancel the festival.

Questions have been raised about where the money raised through ticket sales has gone. Ear To The Ground is a non-profit organization run entirely by volunteers, and none of the proceeds went to the festival staff or volunteers who contributed their time and, in some cases, their own money, toward getting the festival up and running. The majority of our operating funds went into paying deposits for the major musical acts, plus a considerable amount was spent on marketing. Some of the acts to whom we had paid deposits chose not to play the festival after the announced change in venue, but the deposits were not returned, and we cannot recover this money.

Putting on a festival takes a lot of time. Cleaning up in the aftermath of an event that, for the most part, did not take place takes even longer. We are committed to ensuring that every passholder and exhibitor who has requested a refund receives it. It should be noted that the majority of our passholders and exhibitors have, in fact, received a refund. However, due to limited resources, the remaining refunds may take longer than we had originally hoped, but they will be issued in due time. We will be in contact with all of those who are still owed a refund over the next few weeks, with the intent of paying them back as soon as circumstances permit.

We thank everyone for their understanding in this difficult time.

Sincerely,
The Board of Directors
Ear To The Ground Festival



source:
http://www.eartothegroundfest.com/


Posted by 7-4-7 on Mar-26-2006 23:37:

Re: Why has Toronto become so ghetto?

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
...that havnt been scarboroughized.



except that there are so many upscale parts of Scarborough, get off the 401 and go south anywhere in Scarborough, basically anything that lines the bluffs is amongst the top property in the city.


Posted by dEsidEL on Mar-26-2006 23:40:

Re: Re: Why has Toronto become so ghetto?

quote:
Originally posted by 7-4-7
except that there are so many upscale parts of Scarborough, get off the 401 and go south anywhere in Scarborough, basically anything that lines the bluffs is amongst the top property in the city.




he was prolly referrin to the other 95% of scarb..


Posted by FunkyCrew on Mar-26-2006 23:46:

quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
yea cause its america's fault there's shootings here


90% of illegal weapons come from US


Posted by Mag1k on Mar-26-2006 23:46:

quote:
Originally posted by drgoodvibe
Remember boys and girls the club district has to cater to it's customers for their mighty $$.

Why do you think we don't see a whole lot of alternative media, music, etc... events anymore? Our entire culture has taken steps towards homogeneity. And unfortunately the HipHop, pimpstar, thug life, has become our mainstream. We are a pop culture.. so as business owners they have to cater to the masses. This is what people want! Supply and Demand! All the while the people are force-fed this tripe to increase that Demand and there is no end in sight, it�s a vicious cycle.


What about emo kids... I know theres a shitload of them around these days, how come they dont have a club for them? One where they could go cry at the bar stand and then write poems about it? huh


Posted by FunkyCrew on Mar-26-2006 23:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Mag1k
What about emo kids... I know theres a shitload of them around these days, how come they dont have a club for them? One where they could go cry at the bar stand and then write poems about it? huh


aaawww i luv emo kids

they r adorable


Posted by 7-4-7 on Mar-26-2006 23:49:

Re: Re: Re: Why has Toronto become so ghetto?

quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL


he was prolly referrin to the other 95% of scarb..



yeah but Scarborough gets such a bad (w)rap....can't let it happen here....lived here my entire life...i've seen places far more ghetto in other areas.....like "lock all the doors and drive" type of ghetto....


Posted by Frenchie on Mar-26-2006 23:49:

What's with the bashing of people. Hiphopers, now Emos...


Nothing wrong with them, they are people too, and good people as well.


Posted by dEsidEL on Mar-26-2006 23:52:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Why has Toronto become so ghetto?

quote:
Originally posted by 7-4-7
yeah but Scarborough gets such a bad (w)rap....can't let it happen here....lived here my entire life...i've seen places far more ghetto in other areas.....like "lock all the doors and drive" type of ghetto....




i lived in scarb for most of my life as well (before it actually became ghettoized).. thankfully in some of the more decent parts, but when i left i concluded that it was hopeless..

http://www.standupscarborough.ca/


Posted by drgoodvibe on Mar-26-2006 23:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Mag1k
What about emo kids... I know theres a shitload of them around these days, how come they dont have a club for them? One where they could go cry at the bar stand and then write poems about it? huh


Enough to fill up a club say 200+ people to the brink thurs through to sat, who will binge drink like we'd run out of booze..?

If so then shit i'll open a club for these kiddos.


Posted by nusty on Mar-26-2006 23:59:

quote:
Originally posted by FunkyGroove
90% of illegal weapons come from US



source?


Posted by FunkyCrew on Mar-27-2006 00:00:

quote:
Originally posted by nusty
source?


i wish i could remember

i think it was online somewhere


Posted by dEsidEL on Mar-27-2006 00:00:



i heard that 90% of our goods also flow to the US lol.. seems like a fair trade?


Posted by Frenchie on Mar-27-2006 00:02:

I'll find it.
I had to do a project on gun violence, and I think I still have the link.

But even so, I think it's sad that we spend all this time blaming them instead of TRYING to stop all the illegal stuff from come by. I blame our side for that, I mean they complain that it's from the states, but what are we doing to stop it? NOthing. Therefore it continues.
EDIT: I CANT WRITE!


Posted by dEsidEL on Mar-27-2006 00:03:



if ppl choose to follow stupidity in the media that's their own fault and no one elses..

ks maybe the parents, and DJ Tiesto .. but that's it.


Posted by Frenchie on Mar-27-2006 00:04:

quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL


if ppl choose to follow stupidity in the media that's their own fault and no one elses..

ks maybe the parents, and DJ Tiesto .. but that's it.



Bahhhhh Tiesto has no say in this , this time!

Leave him out. lol


Posted by FunkyCrew on Mar-27-2006 00:04:

quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL


if ppl choose to follow stupidity in the media that's their own fault and no one elses..

ks maybe the parents, and DJ Tiesto .. but that's it.



*SLAP!* leave Tiesto out of this


Posted by chinamon on Mar-27-2006 00:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
im quite happy the club i work for manages to keep that element out. But its sad that most of toronto has gone that way. It really upset me last night.


i still see quite a few thugs/punks in the vision room on saturdays trying to be tough...


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