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Posted by wrzonance on Mar-27-2006 19:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Camwin
5 mins my bum hole.
What about us n00bs with dial up?


What about you noobs? What about you?

Quit living in the stoneage.


Posted by harriz on Mar-27-2006 20:03:

quote:
Originally posted by nennon
Dear Harriz,

The algorithm is very accurate. Mixed In Key has received very positive feedback so far. There are some testimonials available at http://mixedinkey.typepad.com

I would be glad to hear your feedback as well.


Thank you,
Yakov


Yay!!
This is a very welcome invention that could save me soo much time
I randomly ran some tracks thru it and had no mistakes!
Are there any plans on making this available for the mac osx platform?


Posted by harriz on Mar-27-2006 20:05:

quote:
Originally posted by DJFreaq
What about you noobs? What about you?

Quit living in the stoneage.

Damn
How could you people be so fucking rude?


Posted by stevieboy32808 on Mar-27-2006 20:06:

You could just use pitch control if you have cdj's and match the key by ear.


Posted by kr00t0n on Mar-27-2006 20:55:

quote:
Originally posted by bobba lou
doesnt do mp3


A rather crucial and ignored point


Posted by nennon on Mar-27-2006 21:12:

quote:
Originally posted by kr00t0n
A rather crucial and ignored point


Full version has full .MP3 file support (320kbit, 256kbit, 192kbit, 128kbit, etc)


Posted by bobba lou on Mar-27-2006 22:25:

quote:
Originally posted by nennon
Full version has full .MP3 file support (320kbit, 256kbit, 192kbit, 128kbit, etc)


i saw, but $58 usd. Ill pass.


Posted by bobba lou on Mar-27-2006 23:15:

quote:
Originally posted by harriz
Are there any plans on making this available for the mac osx platform?


+1


Posted by meneedit on Mar-27-2006 23:42:

youve actually made me bring up something I was planning on posting about anyway.

and here it is:

I believe that mixing has evolved. I mean sure, DJs still like to put whatever they want in a liveset but when it comes to album mixes, mixing these days is about perfect track selection and having everything in the same key so that it can sound like one long smooth continuous track.

This was the one and only reason why everybody loved 005.

This prog sounds like it could be handy. although I do understand how it can tell. I mean, if its not a frequency thing, then what is it?


Posted by Thois on Mar-27-2006 23:47:

i would have bought it for $20, shame

I bet you would make more money if you make it 20$, its 3 times less than the current price, but it would attract 6 times more buyers


Posted by Camwin on Mar-28-2006 00:21:

quote:
Originally posted by kr00t0n
A rather crucial and ignored point

SSSHHH!!!!!!!!!
i can't hear the flaming!!


Posted by harriz on Mar-28-2006 01:33:

quote:
Originally posted by nennon
Full version has full .MP3 file support (320kbit, 256kbit, 192kbit, 128kbit, etc)


So let's say a track changes key @ verse 2.
Not very common,I know, but there are some tracks that shift gear halfway thru.
How would the software analize such a track?


Posted by nennon on Mar-28-2006 01:50:

quote:
Originally posted by harriz
So let's say a track changes key @ verse 2.
Not very common,I know, but there are some tracks that shift gear halfway thru.
How would the software analize such a track?


I thought it would be a good idea to analyze the Beginning, Middle and End of each song. This way, if the song changes key, Mixed In Key can detect the key change. This happens in Underworld - Dark and Long (Danny Howells mix) for example. Mixed In Key already supports this functionality, but we couldn't find a good way to display these results in Browse Collection. We currently have a very clean interface and we would like to keep it that way. Once we get more feedback from our current users, we will implement this feature 100%.

Thanks,
Yakov


Posted by bobba lou on Mar-28-2006 02:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Thois
i would have bought it for $20, shame

I bet you would make more money if you make it 20$, its 3 times less than the current price, but it would attract 6 times more buyers


im with you on this one.


Posted by nennon on Mar-29-2006 00:01:

Hey all,

There have been over 400 downloads of the trial version so far. We have gathered some great feedback and got new ideas for the next version. Both the trial version and the retail version will be updated sometime in the next week. So far, the most requested feature was saving key information into ID3 tags, as well as renaming .WAV and .MP3 files. If you have more feedback, please post it here.


Thanks,
Yakov


Posted by bobba lou on Mar-29-2006 02:06:

for MAC os
and lower the price.

thanks


Posted by harriz on Mar-29-2006 03:01:

quote:
Originally posted by bobba lou
for MAC os
and lower the price.

thanks

+1


Posted by wrzonance on Mar-29-2006 04:44:

quote:
Originally posted by harriz
Damn
How could you people be so fucking rude?


poor baby

I was there once too though. So I knew how it felt, um... 6 years ago?


Posted by harriz on Mar-30-2006 03:47:

Thumbs down

quote:
Originally posted by DJFreaq
poor baby

I was there once too though. So I knew how it felt, um... 6 years ago?


Knowledge is not one of your qualities. Respect isn't eighter.
The fact that you felt the need to flame somebody for not having hi-speed internet
reflects that very clearly.

In your boring little life, in fear of rejection, you would never dare to be so rude.
You would have to pretend.
On the internet on the other hand, you can be shallow, rude and disguisting. You can be YOU! ''Djfreaq'' . A pig. A twat. An animal.

But please try...just try to realize that there are people around the world who are not in your ''super-privileged'' position of having access to hi-speed internet.
Hell you might even feel ''superior'' and forget, for a moment, how empty and mediocre your shitty little life is...

In some counries, miiiiiles away from your computer screen, this luxury is not always standard issue.
This apparently is far too complicated a scenario for your shallow, closed-minded, little head to consider....


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Mar-30-2006 04:02:

quote:
Originally posted by DJFreaq
poor baby

I was there once too though. So I knew how it felt, um... 6 years ago?

What, you were a baby 6 years ago? No wonder your posts are as high quality as they are.


Posted by nefardec on Mar-30-2006 18:19:

hi,

please don't pretend like you've invented the circle of fifths. this diagram appears in pretty much every book on western music theory offered to fifth grade music.

I do think it's nice that you're promoting harmonic mixing.

anyone who wants to learn how to mix harmonically, I would advise you to actually learn a bit of music theory.

when you mix harmonically, you have to also worry about accidentals and things that might be in the bassline or a repetitive melody which might completely ruin any chance of a nice sounding mix if you mix simply in the same key or at fifth intervals.

there are other ways to mix harmonically besides simply mixing in the same key, or in intervals of fifths. (though this is the best way for smooth mixing)


I think you learn something by actually learning how to listen to music and key tracks by yourself. One of the obvious yet important things is developing a musical ear which will make you a better DJ and producer over all. And you'll start to develop favorite keys and progressions, etc.


Posted by harriz on Mar-30-2006 22:20:

Smile

quote:
Originally posted by nefardec

when you mix harmonically, you have to also worry about accidentals and things that might be in the bassline or a repetitive melody which might completely ruin any chance of a nice sounding mix if you mix simply in the same key or at fifth intervals.


Can you please analize this a bit further?


Posted by dami2550 on Mar-31-2006 03:15:

Well, I bit the bullet and bought it - don't have very good musical ear anyway.

So far, it ROCKS! some people might be right about program not being ideal, but hey, I'm much better at choosing tracks than before.
Totally worth the 60$.

Few problems are - we need key in MP3 comment field and probably better organizing in the software (would be cool to add "scan to new library" button or something.

Good job, Mixed In Key team!!


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Mar-31-2006 04:27:

Yay, nobody needs skills to be a DJ anymore. That's just great.


Posted by nefardec on Mar-31-2006 07:59:

quote:
Can you please analize this a bit further?


Let's say a song is written in the key of B minor, a very nice trance key. If I remember correctly, songs like Love Theme Dusk, Loco Love, Made of Sun are all in this key.

The key of b-minor means that all of the tones in the key will belong to the b-minor scale.

B C# D E F# G A B

If you don't know music, # means "sharp", a note that is a half pitch above its nominal note.
Now, let's say that a producer creates a repetitve bassline for some reason that goes:

B B B B B B B B E E E F F F B B

F is an "off key" note. It doesn't belong to the key and is used for the musical effect it creates.


If you try to mix this with a song that has a treble melody that has an F# at the same time as the F "natural" from the first song's bassline is being played, you'll end up with a minor second interval, basically an F natural and an F# played at the same time, which is pretty much one of the most obviously terrible sounds ever to be heard if you are meaning to be mixing smoothly.


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