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Originally posted by pvdclubber i said it was epic, not whether it was good or not!!!

I'm not really sure what you mean by epic.

classic trance with massive build ups, like this track or tiesto's lethal industry. another example would be wellenrausch's "on the run"

Defining 'epic' would be hard I think.
To me it's not just the music but the pictures I get in my head when I listen to something, too.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery I'm not really sure what you mean by epic.

classic trance with massive build ups, like this track or tiesto's lethal industry. another example would be wellenrausch's "on the run"

there are several aspects which plays a cruical role in why epic trance today seem to have lost its spirit.
one of the most important is exactly as that other guy said. the labels today are very eager to sign as many new talents as posible. this resulting in an inflation in releases which propably never should have left the studio. I personally know producers which got signed with poor productions but the labels seemed to release anything they could find.
another reason is that alot of the young producers today looks back on the golden epic years "98-00" and tries to copy their favourite producer sounds from those years. but with a much worse result. of course influences are never bad but in the long line when every producer tries to copy the same formula over and over again it's tearing on the quality of music.
i can't count the number of really good uplifting tunes i heard last year on my fingers. most of the time you hear one tune and the next minute you don't even remember how it sounded. the soul it used to have has vanished. propably why i today listen mostly to progressive trance ala Vibrasphere, Ticon, Antix etc. This progscene have made a big comeback and the number of quality releases is amazingly high. but i fear that it might get overflooded as well. but so far the labels doesn't seem to sign many new talents and instead concentrate on the old guys which is propably why the quality is kept at a higher level.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery I'm not really sure what you mean by epic.

classic trance with massive build ups, like this track or tiesto's "lethal industry". another example would be wellenrausch's "on the run"

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Originally posted by pvdclubber classic trance with massive build ups, like this track or tiesto's "lethal industry". another example would be wellenrausch's "on the run"

OK, I got it the first time. However, this track doesn't really have a massive build up or any epicness of any kind to it.

i'm trying to add valid commentary to this discussion, why you always criticize everything, that really sucks on this board.

here is a track with a massive build up

MAGENTA: "TWISTED SOUL"

quality uplifting (epic) trance

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Originally posted by pvdclubber i'm trying to add valid commentary to this discussion, why you always criticize everything, that really sucks on this board.

Because I disagreed with you? Why do you people think that every time someone doesn't share your views it means it's a personal attack of some kind?

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Originally posted by pvdclubber i'm trying to add valid commentary to this discussion, why you always criticize everything, that really sucks on this board. here is a track with a massive build up MAGENTA: "TWISTED SOUL" quality uplifting (epic) trance

yeah that one is nice. good production by Hemstock & Jennings. it was pretty underrated. only heard PvD play it. though its not new. its like 2-3 years old.

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Originally posted by pvdclubber i'm trying to add valid commentary to this discussion, why you always criticize everything, that really sucks on this board. here is a track with a massive build up MAGENTA: "TWISTED SOUL" quality uplifting (epic) trance

It's not an intent to criticize. It's being honest. Most trance today is completely soulless and devoid of character. If anything, one of the virtues of TA is the honesty and experience of the members.

Twisted Soul is actually one of a very few tracks that stand out for me from the past two or three years.

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Originally posted by RebeL9 yeah that one is nice. good production by Hemstock & Jennings. it was pretty underrated. only heard PvD play it. though its not new. its like 2-3 years old.

Yeah, I don't know why no one else played it. I thought it was rather good as far as epic goes.

newish uplifting stuff

Eden by purple haze

still loads of good stuff out there

heard the tune in crasher the other week, quality

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Originally posted by RebeL9 yeah that one is nice. good production by Hemstock & Jennings.

Dont forget matt hardwick aswell

Mr. Mystery, ya know... I haven't been here long at all, at least not on the forums, so I don't know you guys too well. Your posts crack me up very often, because 7 or 8 out of 10 are quite negative, or just neutral-negative kinda. No offense though!



Edit: Sure, sorry.

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Originally posted by Cobalt Yeah, I don't know why no one else played it. I thought it was rather good as far as epic goes.

and big shame that it was released almost a year after PvD played it on his mixmag CD. and they also renamed it from Twisted Spirit.
it deserves more attention

I'd say that Solarstone Destinations V1 contains some really tasty epic tunes. Bought it a couple of days ago.

Couldn't agree more, Rawbound.

rawbound did you go and see nu nrg in malm� last year, i missed them by a week, when i went to visit a mate in lund

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Originally posted by Rainborn Mr. Mystery, ya know... I haven't been here long at all, at least not on the forums, so I don't know you guys too well. Your posts crack me up very often, because 7 or 8 out of 10 are quite negative, or just neutral-negative kinda. No offense though!

Yeah, yeah, we've been through this one many times before. Just stay on topic, K?

Wtf, Nu Nrg?!
Ok it's not like I can get in legally, but I'd easily infiltrate the building!

thx rainborn, not just me picking up on mr mystery's negative posts, criticism is good, but constant bickering is offputting.

Seriously. I do like the attention but it seems like I can't post anything anymore without someone getting hung up on it... it's getting a bit creepy.

Nope I didn't. Wasn't even aware of them playing there

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it seems like I can't post anything anymore without someone getting hung up on it... it's getting a bit creepy.

Well you can't count on everyone's full support when you almost always say stuff like that.

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