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-- seriously!!! - is universal nation THE only 98/99 track to not sound dated?????
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you all mention tracks that didnt get anywhere in the charts..
in my first thread starter i compair universal nation to tracks that got in similar positions..
bt - well known but not as mainstream as gouryella and out of the blue, carte, alice dj, fire wire etc etc.
universal nation got into the uk top 20 if i remember rightly.
im talking about tracks that were mainstream back in 98/99. - during the era of trance.
carte blanch is a typical example. this got somewhere similar to universal nation in the charts. but the synths etc etc sound so cliche cos ferry was the main producer back in those years.
there aint one mainstream track from 98/99 that compaires strength wise over the 8/7 years they have been around. FACT!
you all mention tracks that didnt get anywhere in the charts..
in my first thread starter i compair universal nation to tracks that got in similar positions..
bt - well known but not as mainstream as gouryella and out of the blue, carte, alice dj, fire wire etc etc.
universal nation got into the uk top 20 if i remember rightly.
im talking about tracks that were mainstream back in 98/99. - during the era of trance.
carte blanch is a typical example. this got somewhere similar to universal nation in the charts. but the synths etc etc sound so cliche cos ferry was the main producer back in those years.
there aint one mainstream track from 98/99 that compaires strength wise over the 8/7 years they have been around. FACT!
Since when do charts determine what's quality and what's not?
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| Originally posted by richg101 there aint one mainstream track from 98/99 that compaires strength wise over the 8/7 years they have been around. FACT! |
my point was that universal nation was the only track to get into the charts that does not sound like a cliche trance track of 99!!!
and this is a valid point. you seam to be bending what i said. i did not for one second say that trance was not good unless it got into the charts.
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'my point was that universal nation was the only track to get into the charts that does not sound like a cliche trance track of 99!!!'
now somebody name a track that honestly has the same aging value that made it into the mainstream charts. there aint one!
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| Originally posted by Fundamental To be fair, how many trance tunes achieved mainstream success at that time? A handful at best. |
See, I feel the same about strange world, crackign track that I believe can still work it in a set.
As with carte blanche I believe.
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| Originally posted by Fundamental To be fair, how many trance tunes achieved mainstream success at that time? A handful at best. |
I'm sorry, it sounds dated!!
That's because it does not feature 50,000 layers, is not overproduced, has a focus on a distinctive melody etc etc. It is simple and effective and therefore if dropped in any set today people would be woken from their coma's.
Westbam vs Red Jerry - Wizards of the Sonic (Matt Darey Remix).
Now this song has aged EXTREMELY well, you can drop this anywhere in a set today and it'll fit.
the Original Universal Nation definitely sounds dated.. but you gotta put it into context. Back then it was very original. Still a good tune to this day tho!
Overrated. Repetitive , doesn't go anywhere.It's not a bad tune but not MIKE's best.
Till We Meet Again beats this easily.
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| Originally posted by Psychotron WestBam vs. Red Jerry - Wizards Of The Sonic |
i would say johnny shaker - pearl river. heard trix drop it about a year ago and they place lifted. didnt really make it to the top of the charts but i would still use it today.
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| Originally posted by Joycey Looked at the smilies for ages trying to find the right expression for the level of disagreement I have with this suggestion and settled on this: |
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| Originally posted by kr00t0n WHAT?!?!? The Matt Darey remix is incredibly polished considering it was done in 98, and still beats loads of tracks released currently in terms of quality. One of the best pieces of trance ever made imo. |
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| Originally posted by kr00t0n WHAT?!?!? The Matt Darey remix is incredibly polished considering it was done in 98, and still beats loads of tracks released currently in terms of quality. One of the best pieces of trance ever made imo. |
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| Originally posted by Trance Nutter Westbam vs Red Jerry - Wizards of the Sonic (Matt Darey Remix). Now this song has aged EXTREMELY well, you can drop this anywhere in a set today and it'll fit. |
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| Originally posted by Cloud I don't like this track , I can say I hate it...Overated but that's just me |
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| Originally posted by kr00t0n It's my all time number 4 |
As much as i despise Paul Okenfold, I can still listen to his remix of Olive's-Youre Not Alone. I think it was released in 97 if my memory serves me right.
How is this thread still alive? Are you all so shallow that you think a six year old track sounds dated? Is flashy production bollocks really that important? There are tracks from 15+ years ago that don't sound dated.
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| Originally posted by SYSTEM-J There are tracks from 15+ years ago that don't sound dated. |
Universal Nation could have been one of the most perfect trance songs ever if not for that annoying breakdown/lull in the middle....because it seemed for a brief moment that MIKE wanted to do something outside of the typical breakdown-build-anthem formula. Introduce the anthem at the beginning, and let it loop throughout. Perfect in its simplicity. But then it had to go all anthemy on us, completely killing the wonderful momentum that the melody provided, that kind of "rolling" effect that actually prompts you to yearn for it to keep going, even though it's just a simple 3-key, four-bar loop. I haven't heard such a repetitively addictive synthline since What Time is Love. I could listen to it for hours and not get sick of it.
If I was in charge of the track, I'd remove the breakdown entirely, Keep the voice ("Proceed with a visual attack formation" is great) and have the beat not stop throughout, and apply liberal ADSR envelopes to the melody and bring in the melody on redundant channels but with different envelopes on them to give it more chorus/harmonic progression. No snare rolls, no "woo!" sound. That's just corny. And not indicative of the true ethos of trance.
Hell, I might do that. Somebody get me MIKE's digits.
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