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Jdat, that's the kind of explaination I was looking for... Thanks.
I mean, why are some releases labeled with breaks, some with breakbeat, and some with both?
Obviously there has to be at least the slightest difference. ^^

Steve May-Sublimate(breaks mix)

that is all

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Originally posted by Nayil your next thread might be.... whats the difference between prog and progressive ?

ahahahaha...

so true.

I hear some people talk of prog, but others of progressive.. what is the difference?

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Originally posted by DJ NEMESIS ahahahaha... so true. I hear some people talk of prog, but others of progressive.. what is the difference?

"ressive"

There is no difference, some people just say "prog" instead of progressive.

whats the difference bw breakbeats and breakfast?

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Originally posted by adi26 whats the difference bw breakbeats and breakfast?

both the beats and the eggs are broken

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Originally posted by jdat Obviously there's a difference! Breakbeat is more 80s sounding and more prone to being used for turntablism ( that's where it came from ). And I guess you could say breaks is a hybrid between drum and bass and breakbeat.

Breakbeats is an offshoot of the house and hip hop scene back in the 80's, but mostly hip hop. I know it's hard to believe, but it's just as hard to believe that house music evolved from the remains of disco music. Todays house sounds nothing like disco except for the 4/4 dance beat, but I digress. To make a long story short, 80's house producers started experimenting with hip hop beats by speeding them up and adding their own elements to their track, hence a breakbeats track was born.

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Originally posted by jdat It's not the most accurate comparision in the world but saying breaks and breakbeat are both the same is as ignorant as calling "electro" what some of the top house djs are playing these days.

Breaks is short for breakbeats. You can read more about it here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakbeats

Your post is screaming Orlando

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Originally posted by Gauss I mean, why are some releases labeled with breaks, some with breakbeat, and some with both? Obviously there has to be at least the slightest difference. ^^

Because marketers are just as asinine as people like jdat. Marketers also differentiate between psy and goa. Does that mean they're different? No, it just means the marketers think more niches = more money, for some reason.

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Originally posted by stevieboy32808 Breakbeats is an offshoot of the house and hip hop scene back in the 80's, but mostly hip hop. I know it's hard to believe, but it's just as hard to believe that house music evolved from the remains of disco music. Todays house sounds nothing like disco except for the 4/4 dance beat, but I digress. To make a long story short, 80's house producers started experimenting with hip hop beats by speeding them up and adding their own elements to their track, hence a breakbeats track was born.

Wow, are you wrong or what. Breakbeats comes from soul and funk music, and the drum 'break' solo that was usually in that music. A lot of these funk and soul breaks went on to be sampled later and named, one of the most famousest being the Apache and the Funky Drummer. As a descriptor, breakbeat describes the syncopated drum pattern. Boom tss, boom boom tss, boom tss, boom boom tss. As opposed to boom tss boom tss boom tss boom tss boom tss boom tss. Well, you get it. The first time the breaks of funk and soul rekkids were extended to make longer tracks were in the mid to late 70's by DJ's like Kool Herc who took two copies of the same rekkid and played the break back to back from one rekkid to the other over and over. The first released breaks track is probably the first Hip Hop track. Or actually maybe a Kraftwerk track. Trans Europe Express and Man Machine are breakbeat for example. Possibly Autobahn. Most of this info is in the first paragraphs of that wikipedia link you gave. Did you even read it?

80's house producers had nothing to do with hip hop beats. And it's entirely believeable that House came from disco, as that's what Frankie Knuckles was mainly influenced by, as evidenced by what he played at the Warehouse in the 70's. Not to mention that after 1998 or so house producers began to sample disco loops extensively (hence Disco house), though one of the first to do it was Earth People in 1990.

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I mean, why are some releases labeled with breaks, some with breakbeat, and some with both? Obviously there has to be at least the slightest difference. ^^

You're talking about Discogs? Discogs isn't the be all and end all of genre naming. It's run by people just like you and me, and in some ways people who know about as much as you and me. What they do on discogs is pretty much add any stupid shit that enough people moan about adding. They even put Grime in there, whatever that is.

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Originally posted by yaryarblinks Wow, are you wrong or what. Breakbeats comes from soul and funk music, and the drum 'break' solo that was usually in that music. A lot of these funk and soul breaks went on to be sampled later and named, one of the most famousest being the Apache and the Funky Drummer. As a descriptor, breakbeat describes the syncopated drum pattern. Boom tss, boom boom tss, boom tss, boom boom tss. As opposed to boom tss boom tss boom tss boom tss boom tss boom tss. Well, you get it. The first time the breaks of funk and soul rekkids were extended to make longer tracks were in the mid to late 70's by DJ's like Kool Herc who took two copies of the same rekkid and played the break back to back from one rekkid to the other over and over. The first released breaks track is probably the first Hip Hop track. Or actually maybe a Kraftwerk track. Trans Europe Express and Man Machine are breakbeat for example. Most of this info is in the first paragraphs of that wikipedia link you gave. Did you even read it? 80's house producers had nothing to do with hip hop beats. And it's entirely believeable that House came from disco, as that's what Frankie Knuckles was mainly influenced by, as evidenced by what he played at the Warehouse in the 70's. Not to mention that after 1998 or so house producers began to sample disco loops extensively (hence Disco house), though one of the first to do it was Earth People in 1990.

OMG ITS YARYARBINKS WHO JUST REGISTERED LIKE TODAY LOL

Gee, who might that be.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery Gee, who might that be.

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Originally posted by yaryarblinks Wow, are you wrong or what. Breakbeats comes from soul and funk music, and the drum 'break' solo that was usually in that music. A lot of these funk and soul breaks went on to be sampled later and named, one of the most famousest being the Apache and the Funky Drummer.

Well if you want go that far back then yes. Here's my order:
Hip Hop influences House producers ===>House producers experimented with hip hop beats ===>Breakbeats is born
Here's your order:
Soul/Funk music with break solos influences the hip hop scene ===> Hip Hop influences House producers ===>House producers experimented with hip hop beats ===>Breakbeats is born

But later you confirm what I said:

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Originally posted by yaryarblinks The first time the breaks of funk and soul rekkids were extended to make longer tracks were in the mid to late 70's by DJ's like Kool Herc who took two copies of the same rekkid and played the break back to back from one rekkid to the other over and over. The first released breaks track is probably the first Hip Hop track.

Tom Moulton is the inventor of the extended edit not those guys. You can read more about it here. I know where you're going with this. Kraftwerk are one of the pioneers of electro which influence (not necessarily invented) other genres of music such as Hip Hop and electro also added its touch to other forms of music such as breakbeats..bla bla bla.

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Originally posted by yaryarblinks 80's house producers had nothing to do with hip hop beats. And it's entirely believeable that House came from disco, as that's what Frankie Knuckles was mainly influenced by, as evidenced by what he played at the Warehouse in the 70's. Not to mention that after 1998 or so house producers began to sample disco loops extensively (hence Disco house), though one of the first to do it was Earth People in 1990.

Please read what I posted again. I said they experimented and were influenced with hip hop beats. Not invented, not pioneered, nor created hip hop. Just experimented. Hear this clip and you'll know what I mean: link

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