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well for me, i wanted rotary, so that just snowballed into the 92.

yeah i love using rotary faders to mix, the xone filters and lfo can be used to do some very cool things in the mix and are a wonderful tool. 4 band eq's as well are extremely nice to have. not to mention lots of in and outs a send a recieve, plus the really warm sound of hte mixer itself. I can hear a difference between mixers fairly easily especially if the djing is using vinyl.

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Originally posted by The Don First of all. Are you the mixer police?? Who are you to come on and preach to people? I have never wasted my time with low end mixers for several reasons. Function, usablity and ENJOYMENT. Sound qulaity is not something the really comes into it. You stick toyour Numark Blue Dog, but don't come on here all high and mighty as if we are wrong to use our money any way we please..

chill winston.

you re an idiot mate! i do not have a blue dog. and im not preaching. you sound like the type of guy i wanted to piss off when i made this thread

anyways the fact is that when it boils down to it a professional mixer is way overkill for use in bedrooms. people will say the workings are more enjoyable. but honestly, a behringer mixer has everything anyone would need for bedroom use. the main thing you pay for is name. with the higher quality components that keep the s/n ratio low having a slight affect on the price aswell .

i use and old Numark at home, DM 1100X, it's about 10 yrs old and does the job for mixing, but don't bother trying to record with it, it's crapola! x-fader drops the other channel in as soon as I touch it let alon move it.
You get what you pay for.

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Originally posted by richg101 chill winston. a behringer mixer has everything anyone would need for bedroom use. the main thing you pay for is name.

Well, in a lot of cases, what you also pay for is quality. I've heard plenty of stories about low to mid end Behringers, Numarks, Geminis, Stantons, etc, crapping out, blowing fuses, faders dying and sounding rough, knobs popping off, and so on. Not to mention, a lot of these mixers just don't have a solid feel like some of their more expensive bretheren.

Sure, you can get by with a Behringer. All a DJ really and truly needs from a mixer is 2 channels with separate faders and EQ controls (and he can scrape by with less). HOWEVER, this does not mean that he cannot benefit from features beyond these basic necessities.

Let's face it, no one really needs professional quality sound in their bedroom--there's no real benefit to it. However, many of these mixers like the Xone 92, DJM 800, Nuo 5, and others come with a lot of features that are not only useful, but just plain fun to use in any situation--club OR bedroom. How about MIDI out, for one thing? Just plug the MIDI singal into the back of your computer, fire up Ableton, and run a line out back into an open channel of your mixer. You're now free to drop loops and samples into your mix to your heart's content, all of which will be synched up to your records thanks to the MIDI signal. Or how about having Send/Receive channels for an effects processor? An external effects box can add a LOT of creativity and depth to your set. Yeah, you could run an effects unit on a damned Blue Dog if you just ran the Line Out into it, but you'd have no chance to control each channel individually. Don't forget about little features like filters, assignable crossfaders, gain knobs, enough line in/out jacks, etc.

There is a lot more that these mixers can provide us than simple sound quality. Why should club DJs be the only ones with access to these features?

If someone makes a mixer that's less than $600 with 4 channels, MIDI out, separate send/receive channels for effects units, has an assignable crossfader and gain knobs, and is built to last and operates like butter, then they will put every other mixer company out of business. Until then, I'll take a Nuo 5, or failing that, a Xone 92, or failing that, a DJM-800.

frankly, we all dont need much except food and water.

everyone judges on a different scale. in some respects, i probbaly shoudlnt even be a bedroom dj. its just a time sink and a drain on my wallet.

i spin becuase i enjoy it and its really now about what other people think or hear. i hear it. i experience it. and it makes a difference to me. i paid for it and i am glad i did. thats what it boils down to. every time i play on a djm, it reminds me how glad i am that i got my 62 instead.

Here's why I own a Xone:62...

- Filters. I don't use them too often for effects, but they do wonders during transitions.
- Four-band EQ.
- Split cue. Cueing both tracks in each ear (think DJM) gets too bass-heavy for me when I do it. One track in an individual ear is great.
- Sound quality. Yes, even in a home setting I noticed that the Xone:62 had a much 'fuller'/rich sound when compared to a DJM-500.
- Feel. I like the smaller knobs; "industry-standard" Pioneer equipment's knobs are too fat for me. Unlike most people, I enjoy the feel of the channel faders. It also supports slower transitions, which I enjoy far more than fader slams.

I didn't buy it because I "wanted to have the top equipment just so I could say it was better than someone elses." I bought it because it's a fantastic piece of equipment.

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Originally posted by richg101 chill winston. you re an idiot mate! i do not have a blue dog. and im not preaching. you sound like the type of guy i wanted to piss off when i made this thread anyways the fact is that when it boils down to it a professional mixer is way overkill for use in bedrooms. people will say the workings are more enjoyable. but honestly, a behringer mixer has everything anyone would need for bedroom use. the main thing you pay for is name. with the higher quality components that keep the s/n ratio low having a slight affect on the price aswell .

HAHA! You have a long way to go before you piss me off.

To put point and reason across in a clear example I would need to point out my first mixer with kills that I bought way back in 1994. It way Eceron(or something like that) at the age of 14 I thought this was the only mixer for me becuase Id never seen one with kill switches before. I had the mixer for a year and in that year I was ready to give up DJing because I just couldnt mix anything that sounded good. I then by chance had a shot of the DJM when it first appeared and realised that the kill switches were in fact killing nothing and the general functions on the mixer didn't actually have any function. At this point I made a decision that when it came to equipment I would only use top end DJ tools.


It's a matter of personal choice, what is important to me is a well built mixer with good function, sound and additional features that add to the DJing experince. I choose to spend a lot of money because A. I can and B. My performance is better when Im using good equipment. Another fair point is when Im DJing out Im never likely to use a shite "bedroom" mixer. You say using a Berhinger is just as good as using an Allen and Heath. I can only imagine you have never used an Allen and Heath then becuase they are worlds apart. You'll probably find that if you ever get a chance the DJ out because the chances of the club/bar or where ever having a berhinger are slim....

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Originally posted by The Don Another fair point is when Im DJing out Im never likely to use a shite "bedroom" mixer.

Sadly that does happen from time to time.
You turn up at a club and you hear the words, "We had to get another mixer in at short notice" and you are stuck with a piece of shit KAM.

Granted it's not often, but if you play out 2 to 3 times a week and it will happen every once in a while.
Club and especially bar owners have a very different perception on what a good mixer is.

Cheers
Nem

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Originally posted by Nemesis44 Sadly that does happen from time to time. You turn up at a club and you hear the words, "We had to get another mixer in at short notice" and you are stuck with a piece of shit KAM. Granted it's not often, but if you play out 2 to 3 times a week and it will happen every once in a while. Club and especially bar owners have a very different perception on what a good mixer is. Cheers Nem

The point still stands though. A low end mixer has a lot more wrong with it than just sound quality..

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Originally posted by The Don The point still stands though. A low end mixer has a lot more wrong with it than just sound quality..

Yup.
As stated in my previous post, I listed a whole bunch of stuff.

Cheers
Nem

anyone owns an Ecler Nuo 3 ???

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