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we have the best football (soccer) team/players

so, STFU

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Originally posted by Kapedan Which country has more money and a better economy? U.S Which country has a better millitary? U.S Why dont you cover things that Americans are harder workers and later in thier lifetime they will propobly become wealthy, while lazy ass germans go partying all thier lifes and are basicly broke most of the time? Your an idiot Hardprod, you are a brainwashed liberal who cares more about things that arent so important and you always want to let America down by the little negativity. I cant bealive no one tells you how shitty your threads are.

Dude, you do realise you live only one life right. Would you want to live your life constantly working long hours in your younger life so that when you are 60 and retired, you can finaly start living your life with economic freedom? Is that honestly how you want to live? Do you love the fact that in order to get your precious material possessions, you are going to have to sacrafice a large portion of your life to attain it. Is that the status-quo of life?

A better economy and more money does not mean better quality of life. A lot of people have this misconception through GDP, but if a drunk driver crashes his car into my house, that will increase GDP. The economy benifited, but I guess that's all that matters to you economical whores. And come on, a better military? Why don't you give some reasoning behind why working so much in your young life to be well off when you old is he best life to live.

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Originally posted by Kapedan I know the European mentallity, all men want to do there is sit at a cafe and argue politics all day, whereas in America, most of them have to work in order to keep thier family.

and that's supposed to be a good thing how?

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Originally posted by OurManFlint Dude, you do realise you live only one life right. Would you want to live your life constantly working long hours in your younger life so that when you are 60 and retired, you can finaly start living your life with economic freedom? Is that honestly how you want to live? Do you love the fact that in order to get your precious material possessions, you are going to have to sacrafice a large portion of your life to attain it. Is that the status-quo of life? A better economy and more money does not mean better quality of life. A lot of people have this misconception through GDP, but if a drunk driver crashes his car into my house, that will increase GDP. The economy benifited, but I guess that's all that matters to you economical whores. And come on, a better military? Why don't you give some reasoning behind why working so much in your young life to be well off when you old is he best life to live.

I know I do have one life to live, and I don't want to waste it with stupid things and actually make something out of it. Become rich and wealthy and contribute something back to society. The thing is that people are different. Some are leaders, who work hard to get somewhere high in life, and the rest..well like you mentioned, they live for the moment. I do not like to live the moment. I like to think ahead and I like to plan things out. I do not want to waste my time with things that will only waste me time.

I do have fun, when I need to have fun. But at my age, I need to work and study, because its the only time in life where I can do that. Maybe your conception of living is that you have fun..and all your life you work for a company 40 hours a week. Well I'm different. If i had the chance to work more, I would because I dont want to work for this company, I want to own it. So one day, when I have everything else in line, I can fly with private jets and yatchs, etc etc. Dont think that I will be 60 when I do this, I can do this when im 35 or even 40, which is a perfect time to enjoy it. That will make me happy, and I'm sure you wouldnt mind too, but you just dont want to take that road, thats where it seperates us.

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Originally posted by Kapedan I know I do have one life to live....

your work today does not guarantee your enjoyment tomorrow, because there's no guarantee you'll still be here tomorrow.

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Originally posted by Psy-T your work today does not guarantee your enjoyment tomorrow, because there's no guarantee you'll still be here tomorrow.

Well your right, there is no guarantee in anything. But why not take a chance. Do you think we have to think that..well you know..I might die one day...so I guess I wont do this? Is that how you think? At least if I die, Ill die with some money in my pocket.

ok since when can u not do shit when ur under 21? lol. oh ok i guess the fact that the europeans can drink themselves silly is a GOOD thing.

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Originally posted by Psy-T and that's supposed to be a good thing how?

yes. in other countries, like cuba for example (speaking from experience) MEN consider WORK to be a sign of who they ARE. meaning if a man there wins a million bucks he'll probably still go back to work.

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Originally posted by Kapedan At least if I die, Ill die with some money in my pocket.

good for you, what do you plan to buy with all that money you'll have once you die?

Yeah, all you that bring up the whole American drinking age. Whats the big fucking deal? All of a sudden Europe becomes great since thier drinking age is like 16 in some places and 18. Eastren european countries, I dont even think there is a age limit, all they care is to get the money and not the childs after causes.

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Originally posted by Lepanto yes. in other countries, like cuba for example (speaking from experience) MEN consider WORK to be a sign of who they ARE. meaning if a man there wins a million bucks he'll probably still go back to work.

what a bunch of hedonists

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Originally posted by Psy-T what a bunch of hedonists

...no?

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Originally posted by Psy-T good for you, what do you plan to buy with all that money you'll have once you die?

I will give it away to people who need it and make thier life better.


But why to you take in consideration death anyways? Why dont you compare the lifestyle that I will have with money, and the lifestyle you will have without money.

yeah germany did well economically lately...especially paying for everything for old people and immigrants. they are surely doing great lol. but look on the bright side all the unemployed can sit at bars even when they are 18

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Originally posted by Lepanto yeah germany did well economically lately...especially paying for everything for old people and immigrants. they are surely doing great lol. but look on the bright side all the unemployed can sit at bars even when they are 18

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Originally posted by Kapedan Why dont you compare the lifestyle that I will have with money, and the lifestyle you will have without money.

your lifestyle = mostly work
my lifestyle = mostly pleasure

if you wanna talk about 10 days/months/years from now, you should take into account the fact you could be dead by then.

and if you wanna take into account 10 years from now, acknowledge that by then, if you are dead, and keep your "precious lifestyle" you'll be regarded as a worthless bum.

and you ever hear the saying "work hard, party harder"?

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Originally posted by Psy-T your lifestyle = mostly work my lifestyle = mostly pleasure if you wanna talk about 10 days/months/years from now, you should take into account the fact you could be dead by then.

Dead? Im 17, 10 years from now i will be 27. My health is fine..I dont have to worry about anything. In fact, you should worry about dying, or getting blown up by some palestinian suice bomber in israel. You can have all the pleasure in the world, I dont care. I will make money off people like you, im happy . Enjoy my friend, enjoy.

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Originally posted by Lepanto and if you wanna take into account 10 years from now, acknowledge that by then, if you are dead, and keep your "precious lifestyle" you'll be regarded as a worthless bum.

by the time i'm dead, i won't care about being regarded as a "worthless bum", or anything really. when you're dead, you dont experience anything.

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Originally posted by George Smiley Ah yes! It's getting near to that very special time again! WORLD CUP TIME!!! For one month we can all be nationalistic and xenophobic and get away with it! Right, who did I miss out? Ah yes, ze Germans! Two world wars and one world cup!!!

Dont forget West Germany in 1974!

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Originally posted by Psy-T by the time i'm dead, i won't care about being regarded as a "worthless bum", or anything really. when you're dead, you dont experience anything.

But dont you want to be known as a good person, and a well known person who actually did something for society? Or some other person that died and no one actually cares about because all of his life all he cared about was himself and getting drunk on his appartment.

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Originally posted by Kapedan But dont you want to be known as a good person, and a well known person who actually did something for society? Or some other person that died and no one actually cares about because all of his life all he cared about was himself and getting drunk on his appartment.

not really, no.
i do want to be known as some of these things while i'm living though... that doesn't require me to 'work' btw.

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Originally posted by Kapedan But dont you want to be known as a good person, and a well known person who actually did something for society? Or some other person that died and no one actually cares about because all of his life all he cared about was himself and getting drunk on his appartment.

So the point of life is to sacrafice pleasure for working hard so you can benifit society, who will sacrafice pleasure to work to benifit society? Dude you don't make sense. And why are you comparing extremes. That's a bad way to argue a point. Why don't you try comparing the majority of Americans who slave to their employers, and aybe a middle class person from someplace like Spain, and ask who would have a better life.

Why do you think money is the end all of happiness. I guess you were raised on American values, so to think otherwise would go against your roots.

And about the drinking age for some of you critisizing what I said before. Before you automatically assume that all the drinking law prevents is drinking, use some rationality and expand your thinking. Ask yourself, what is the drinking law preventing a person under 21 from doing. It's not preventing them from drinking, because knowing someone over 21 can garentee the purchase of alchohol. It's not preventing drinking, but rather what goes along with drinking.

It's preventing the younger crowd from going out to places of social interaction. Really, the only places for teens to go out would be someone's house or car or street. Maybe an underage club where they play shit music. Think of the options for kids to do in other countries and think of the options for kids to do in the US. The amount goes dows significantly, preventing growth and maturity.

For example, John Digweed is coming to my city, but I can't go see him because it's a 21+ show. I have to go up to Vancouver to see him. If I didn't have that option, I wouldn't be able to see him. Know tell me, genuises, is this situation not affected by the drinking law? Is my ability to participate in a wide variety of things to do impaired by the drinking law? Kids in other countries, like Germany, don't have this problem, they actually can have that option.

But you guys always accotiate the drinking law with drinking. I don't expect much else from American thinking though. Maybe aquisition of money is your only means of happiness. Good luck with that, though.

And before you critizise me, I am working hard at the moment aquiring an accounting degree at my university, so my opinions don't stem from some lazy person's perspective. They stem from, you know, thinking.

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Originally posted by Kapedan But dont you want to be known as a good person, and a well known person who actually did something for society? Or some other person that died and no one actually cares about because all of his life all he cared about was himself and getting drunk on his appartment.

NO OF COURSE NOT.

I dont give a shit because I'm dead. Its because I have assumed myself a part of the living cycle of life. Do we really wanna be remembered? DOES IT MATTER??

If someone has contributed to something good and everybody benefited from it, then good. Does it matter than he is remembered? NO! Cause the people who are still alive are living much better lives because of him and thats all the thanks he really needs.

If greatness is what ur looking for then i suggest u start being more like gandhi? Or wait..hitlers great too..not remembered in a good way but still great. U really think people like einstein and mozart set out doing what they do just so they'll be remembered??

Dear boy, stop watching cheesy epic movies like Troy.

Kapedan, i have never seen someone so delusional in this forums before.Its frightening..

And yes I would rather have the german lifestyle compared to the americans. And stop trying to defend america, its not that we mind u standing up for them, but ur just not any good at it.

The main point of German's constant freetime has its roots during the 1930s and the concept of "Freizeitgenuss." It's basically the thought that work isn't the end all of life and you actually should take sometime to yourself to enjoy the pleasures, the one's outside your cubicle. Enter islands like Ruegen

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But dont you want to be known as a good person, and a well known person who actually did something for society? Or some other person that died and no one actually cares about because all of his life all he cared about was himself and getting drunk on his appartment.

Taken from the context of your arguement, owning a company = good person? Are we talking good from a moral standpoint, or should you drop the whole "good" label and say "wealthy." But I guess you are the sum of your mansion and ferrari aye?

But I guess you can't really expect anything else from a 17 year old Capitalist.

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