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| Originally posted by Tordan How do you motivate yourself to stick with it and not stray? It must take considerable will power to do this. |
I'd love to go on a diet, but that diet sounds nuts! I think you have to have a lot of will power as well as patience. Im a huge dairy fan, and Vegies of underground. . . .and well being a soccer player, I need Crabs..soo...yaaaaa I don't think I could do it. Good job to you and your friend though, I don't think I could pull this one off.
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| Originally posted by OrZonE Isn't it easier to eat right and stay active? Diets seem so unnecessary to me. |
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| Originally posted by Moral Hazard Not at all. The weight comes off so fast that you see results all the time. Results are a powerful motivator. Plus, believe it or not, I was rarely hungry.... the B6/B12 shots speed up the rate at which your body breaks down fat, the fat being converted back into useable energy keeps you well nurished. The water helped too, tricks you into feeling full. Oh, and the cost.... the diet is expensive ($360/month at the time, don't know what it is now) so the motivation to get to your goal weight and off the diet as fast as possible is pretty high. |
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| Originally posted by Moral Hazard Not at all. The weight comes off so fast that you see results all the time. Results are a powerful motivator. Plus, believe it or not, I was rarely hungry.... the B6/B12 shots speed up the rate at which your body breaks down fat, the fat being converted back into useable energy keeps you well nurished. The water helped too, tricks you into feeling full. Oh, and the cost.... the diet is expensive ($360/month at the time, don't know what it is now) so the motivation to get to your goal weight and off the diet as fast as possible is pretty high. |
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| Originally posted by The Wiz I heart Weight Watchers and everything it stands for. Bahah im like Fergie, practically their spokesperson. WW allows you to eat whatever you like within reason. Everything is divided into points and depending on your weight/height you are allowed a certain number of points per day. I couldn't survive without bread, cheese and chocolate! |
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| Originally posted by Nikitha It would seem that way but a lot of ppl ( much like myself) need an extra diet boost to speed their metabolism up in order to actually start losing weight just be eating healthy and staying active Nikki |
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| Originally posted by Moral Hazard Actually exercise is an extremely inefficient way to lose weight. Diet, a well structured diet, is the best way. |
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| Originally posted by muzzybear Easier said than done for most people, including myself. I love food. I eat when I'm happy, when I'm sad, when I'm alone, or with friends. And I struggle to get to the gym. |
^ Margaret, its a good diet. LOL, You'll love the online option aswell.
Ill bring my WW stuff with me next time I go over.
the most weight i lost was 30 pounds in a month (like 2 years ago)...but it was because of the medication i was on.
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| Originally posted by muzzybear Have any of you tried this or what diets have worked for you? |
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| Originally posted by Moral Hazard In March 2000 I weighed 289lbs.... by the end of July I weighed 168lbs. Thank you Dr. Bernstein! FYI, I'm now at 185... most of which was intentional weight gain because I was just too damn thin for my own liking. |
I used to work at Weight Watchers as Sports Director at their sleepover camp in St. Catharines once summer. One thing about willpower...
If you feel you don't have the willpower, then you don't really want to lose weight... it means you just like to lose weight. If you really want it, will power is a non-issue. Too many people want to lose weight fast, and that lacks motivation for people who like to lose weight.
Dieting is like sex. Eating better is making love.
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| Originally posted by Skipper What makes you think this is healthy for your body? I want to smack people that go on Bernsteins diet. but then again, it's your health you're gambling with, not mine! I've only ever been on weight watchers and had great success with it. I lost about 20lbs of the 60 total I've lost since I was about 18. The rest I lost with exercise and just being more conscious of what I was eating. It amazes me the things people will do and the money they will spend and the risks they will take to lose weight. |
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| Originally posted by Djsketchbag yeah ..... i need to go on a dite too ..... i don't eat right at all mianly cheese, mayo, pasta and all i drink is cases of pop .... so i figure if i cut that out i'll be good |
1. everyone is on a diet
2. veggies are carbs
3. going two weeks without carbs is NOT healthy
learn to live and eat healthy, not starve yourself of nutrients to attain a short term goal.
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| Originally posted by Nikitha I stopped drinking pop in grae 11... you would be surprized how much weight you lose just by cutting pop out of your diet.. i mean i enjoy a 7up now and again... but mostly all i drink is water.. or watered down juice ( usually half and half) and its a LOT better for your teeth if you cut out sugary drinks Nikki |
Here's the link to some of the Weight Watchers Points system
http://www.quiddity.cc/rachel/diet/wwfoods.htm
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| Originally posted by MissM I completely agree! And drinking diet pop is no better. I recently read an article in a health magazine that people who drink diet pop are more likely to gain weight than people who drink regular pop. The explanation was that people who drink diet pop feel they can make up for the "saved calories" in other ways by eating junk food. I can see that as truth - "hey, I'm drinking diet pop with my Super Sized Double Big Mac Combo"... M. |
My current diet: working 2 jobs @ 60 hours a week, no fast food, lots of fruit & veggies & meat, little to no bread or carbs, and lots of dancing
My diet come August: biking to work, hiking, taking Cimmy on walks, and shelving my car for groceries only, and sneaking into the UC Boulder gym twice a week
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| Originally posted by Fir3start3r I would only have agreed if is wasn't supervised by a doctor and the fact that they were VERY DANGEROUSLY OVERWIEGHT. I don't see it that cut and dry sorry. Sometimes you do what you have to and when it comes to your health, that's something you just don't play with. If it was luposuction or some plasitic surgery then you'd have an arguement for sure.... |
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| Originally posted by Skipper What makes you think this is healthy for your body? I want to smack people that go on Bernsteins diet. but then again, it's your health you're gambling with, not mine! |
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| Originally posted by Skipper So you think bernsteins is the healthiest way to lose weight? The fact that you get SHOTS - SHOTS!!! - to help you lose weight! that blows my mind. |
Besides the Atkins or Weight Wachers, most diets and especially rapid weight loss like Dr. Bernsteins seems like a lazy-mans solution to me. Two summers ago I lost 35 lbs by the following, and I ate whatever I wanted:
As soon as I was not hungry, I stopped eating. This really is key. If you really think about it, by the time you take a bite or two of your food, the sensation of hunger is allready gone.
Drank about 4-5 bottles (standard size) of water a day.
Worked out about 3-5 times a week, usually just basketball.
And as for those that say its easier said than done, i dunno, I absolutely LOVE to eat, any time, anywhere, anything edible. You just have to have self control.
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| Originally posted by Fir3start3r Sounds a lot like the Atkiens diet... |
I just don't understand how anyone would resort to these risks!
http://www.cbc.ca/consumers/market/...bernstein_diet/
The Bernstein Diet: How much weight should you give celebrity endorsements?
Broadcast: April 3, 2002 | Reporter: Jacquie Perrin; Producer: Gaelyne Leslie; Researcher: Tanya Arnoti
Mike Bullard's image is prominent in advertising for the Dr. Bernstein Diet
Dr. Stanley Bernstein has been running his weight loss clinics for 25 years, mainly in Ontario. The diet that bears his name is a unique program that includes injections and doesn't require exercise.
According to the diet's website: "You Can Expect To Lose 16 to 20 pounds each and every month while receiving treatment."
Two years ago, the Dr. Bernstein Diet caught the attention of Canada's best-known late night television talk host: Mike Bullard. One of Bullard's camera operators lost 107 pounds on the program. Bullard decided to try it himself.
Now, Mike Bullard is featured prominently on the Dr. Bernstein Diet television advertising, print ads and website.
"He's visible. People have seen him lose the weight and people can relate to him," Bernstein told Marketplace. "We get people coming in saying � 'If Mike Bullard can do it, I know I can.'"
The celebrity influence is strong, according to Shari Graydon of Media Watch, a media awareness group.
"Research shows that the public attributes much greater authority and weight to a testimonial that's given by someone who's famous," Graydon said.
American weight loss programs have featured endorsements from celebrities such as Oprah Winfrey, Monica Lewinsky and Sarah Ferguson.
'Strict medical supervision'
"�the public attributes much greater authority and weight to a testimonial that's given by someone who's famous."
Shari Graydon, Media Watch
Bernstein says his diet is 100 per cent medically supervised and it's about more than just counting calories.
"We use a lot of vitamins and minerals on our patients and we have a unique feature. Some of our vitamins are given by injection."
Clients are injected with a combination of Vitamin B6 and B12, three times a week. The idea is that the vitamins work to break down the fat.
"The B vitamins make it easy for someone to stay on a diet," Bernstein said. "I find that they enhance the weight loss. Our patients are losing between four and five pounds a week."
That's the big draw: rapid weight loss. It comes with a price tag. The initial consultation ranges from $195 to $235. Add to that $100 per week for services and injections.
Bernstein says an average patient who loses about 35 pounds will wind up paying about $1,000.
Every new client is given the Dr. Bernstein Diet manual and recipe book. Inside, there is a very specific list of foods you can and cannot eat. There are also daily menus.
Bernstein says most patients are allowed between 850 and 950 calories a day. He says there are really no side effects.
Diet experiences mixed
Richard Lumb lost 30 pounds in two months
Mike Bullard told Marketplace that he lost 56 pounds on the diet. "I was very happy with the result and there were no health repercussions for me."
Marketplace spoke to 40 of Bernstein's clients. Their experiences were mixed.
Richard Lumb lost about 30 pounds in two months. "I was constantly light-headed from the diet and constant nausea. I just generally felt unwell."
Sofie Kosmas, who dropped 35 pounds, reported migraines and dry, flaking skin. "I was nauseous all the time and�that went on and on and on until I saw my family physician who demanded that I stop."
Gloria Nixon is still on the program and has 14 pounds to lose before she reaches her goal. "I've been losing about ten pounds a month. Ten to 12 pounds a month."
Marketplace went to leading weight loss experts for their opinions on the diet, but Canadian doctors were not prepared to talk on camera.
"Any time you're eating less than a thousand calories�you would be in semi-starvation mode."
Dr. George Blackburn, nutrition expert
But at the Harvard Medical School in Boston, we met with Dr. George Blackburn. He's an internationally recognized expert in obesity and clinical nutrition. He lectures at Harvard and runs several weight loss clinics at a Boston hospital.
"Any time you're eating less than a thousand calories and losing more than two pounds or three pounds per week, you would be in semi-starvation mode and that would require medical supervision," he says.
Blackburn adds there are several dangers to rapid weight loss, including:
You may get sick � suffer from dizziness and feel light-headed
Possible gall bladder attack
The faster you lose weight, the more likely you are to regain it
Rapid weight loss, he said, is not "worthwhile except in a medical emergency."
Inquest recommends weight loss restrictions
In 1988, one of Bernstein's patients died of a cardiac arrhythmia eight days after starting the diet. Thirty-one year old Glenn Duffin weighed more than 300 pounds. A coroner's jury found that Duffin's death was the result of stress caused by several factors, including dieting.
Duffin's family filed a malpractice suit after the inquest and was awarded $700,000 in a settlement. There was no admission of liability on the part of the doctors or the clinic. Bernstein says his insurance company decided that it would be better to settle than to get into an expensive court battle.
The inquest jury also recommended that commercial weight loss programs should encourage healthy clients to lose no more than two pounds a week on a diet of no fewer than 1,200 calories a day.
Diet should not be classified as "Very Low Calorie Diet"
Dr. Stanley Bernstein
Bernstein says his diet should not be classified as a Very Low Calorie Diet.
"The definition of a very low calorie diet�is under eight hundred calories. Our diet is between 850 and 950 calories."
Bernstein client Sofie, who lost 35 pounds, says she was never told how many calories she was limited to. She told us that she and her doctor sat down one day, did the math and came up with about 500 calories a day.
Marketplace asked registered dietician Marilyn Cowling to add up the calories in the food recommended over two days of menus supplied in the Bernstein diet book. She came up with 450 to 500 calories per day.
The instructions in the book warn: "Even the slightest deviation may be detrimental to your success."
Marketplace initially spoke to 40 Bernstein clients. Of those, we re-interviewed 22. Six told us they were allowed to eat more than what was specified in the diet manuals. But the majority said they were told to stick to what was in the diet book or to eat less, if they weren't losing weight quickly enough.
Injections help weight loss: Bernstein
Bernstein says he offsets the rapid weight loss and limited caloric intake with the vitamin injections.
"Most safe diets should be losing a pound a week, a pound and a quarter a week. But with the help of the B vitamins and the oral vitamins and minerals we're using, patients can lose more weight, they burn fatty tissue up more aggressively."
But is there scientific evidence of that? "There is not specific literature that will tell you that B vitamins are going to burn off fat," Bernstein said. "But there are a lot of articles about B vitamins being important for metabolizing food."
Harvard nutrition expert Dr. George Blackburn says the injections are like an electrical stimulus: "It's something to remind you that you're on this program and you want to be compliant to it. It's used as a motivator to make people adhere to the diet, in this case."
There's another motivation technique: A firm approach. "He would chastise me, and then, and then he would say, if I got headaches or if I wasn't feeling well, 'well you're cheating.' Well, no I'm not cheating, and we would have this back and forth," patient Linda Siokalo told us.
Bernstein denies yelling at patients. "We're tough. We're friendly and we're tough. But tough means come to us, follow our regime, we'll teach you what to do, we'll teach you how to eat properly and we don't take excuses," Bernstein said.
Fat: more than meets the mouth
The fat content of the Bernstein diet is not restricted to what you put in your mouth. It also includes soaps and creams.
Clients are restricted to cream-free soaps and hypoallergenic or water-based creams. In fact, he offers one on his website, specially designed for dieters. The package costs $159.99. But there's a special offer for Bernstein clients .
Gloria Nixon is one of 40 people who were on the diet Marketplace spoke with. She remained on the program and was 14 pounds short of her goal when our story aired
Who makes these products? Bernstein's wife, Judy. She's the president of a cosmetics company.
"We know that a lot of fatty elements on the skin, a lot of fat oils get absorbed through the skin. I keep my diet as low in fat intake as possible, both orally and on the skin," Bernstein said.
Sofie, Richard and Linda all left the program. They've gained back all the weight they had lost. Richard says his impression of Mike Bullard has changed.
"It's tough to say that Mike Bullard or any other individual, that the onus is on them to do extensive research and to make sure that their individual case is representative. A diet that would work for him may not remotely work for somebody else," Media Watch's Shari Graydon said.
As for Bullard, he says exercise has been a big part of losing weight and keeping it off. Exercise is not listed as a necessary part of the Bernstein diet.
"I have never said that I would recommend this to anybody, because to be a person who goes on a diet, to be a person who sets about a life change, you've got to be stable. You know, you can't recommend it to just anybody out there," Bullard told Marketplace.
Bullard adds his responsibility as a celebrity who endorsed a product ends after using the product successfully.
Bullard's responsibility may end there, but Marketplace wanted to find out who is responsible for overseeing commercial weight loss clinics. Turns out, no one is.
Neither Health Canada nor the Ontario Ministry of Health regulates diet clinics. When we contacted the Ontario College of Physicians and Surgeons, we were told it would not comment on a specific doctor.
Bernstein says that business is booming, thanks, in part, to his ad campaign and Mike Bullard. He's expanded from 14 to 27 clinics, all but one in Ontario. A Bernstein clinic opened in Richmond, B.C. last November. Bernstein says further expansion is very much on his mind.
What do Monica, Sarah and Mike have in common? The celebrity seal of approval did not come for free. Bernstein says Mike Bullard was paid for his kind words. All Bullard would tell us about that was, "No comment."
If you are thinking about shedding a few pounds and you see Mike Bullard's ads for the Bernstein Health and Diet Clinics, look beyond the famous face and make sure it's right for you.
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