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Originally posted by ivanbee creatine

it makes your muscles bigger by bringing water into the muscles but in turn the muscles are also softer so if you want a rock hard feel i dont think creatine is the way to go

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Originally posted by D-res it makes your muscles bigger by bringing water into the muscles but in turn the muscles are also softer so if you want a rock hard feel i dont think creatine is the way to go

Not entirely true, do some research. It does add water to your muscle cells tho.

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Originally posted by JohnPaullino Not entirely true, do some research. It does add water to your muscle cells tho.

i have done research and i've read that creatine, because it adds water to the muscle cells, which last time i checked, were located in your muscles, it makes your muscles softer. i'm not saying that it makes your muscles soft as jelly, but softer none the less

lol did the "i dont know what im doing" person just tell someone about supplements

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Originally posted by Orbax lol did the "i dont know what im doing" person just tell someone about supplements

yeah.. lol... but i've been reading about this shit outside of TA. i'mn not completely helpless, even though i may be wrong in this case.

ive beeen using creatine regularly off and on (as in for 2 months every 2 months. So 2 on 2 off) and Ive never noticed a softening. The main thing is just slightly more water retention in the fat storage areas but its just water weight and creatine by itself wont make you gain more than 5-10 lbs of water retention. The real weight you keep is from crazy workouts and enough food to = the muscle output youre wishing for

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Originally posted by Orbax lol did the "i dont know what im doing" person just tell someone about supplements

+1

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Originally posted by Orbax ive beeen using creatine regularly off and on (as in for 2 months every 2 months. So 2 on 2 off) and Ive never noticed a softening. The main thing is just slightly more water retention in the fat storage areas but its just water weight and creatine by itself wont make you gain more than 5-10 lbs of water retention. The real weight you keep is from crazy workouts and enough food to = the muscle output youre wishing for

Same here, been using No-Xplode for about 5 months.

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Originally posted by D-res i have done research and i've read that creatine, because it adds water to the muscle cells, which last time i checked, were located in your muscles, it makes your muscles softer. i'm not saying that it makes your muscles soft as jelly, but softer none the less

Effects of Creatine

Increases muscle content of creatine. (Creatine is already in your body), muscle content of Phosocreatine, Lean Body Mass, Muscle Size, Peak muscle power output, Strength

If you don't like any of these, then thats cool.

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Originally posted by DigitalMP Also, you'd look funny all jacked up

i'm not trying to get jacked up.. toned yes..
or atleast try too hehe ;D

n02 is great. I deem it efficacious

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Originally posted by Orbax n02 is great. I deem it efficacious

Excellent product.

yes yes... n-oxide is good..

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Originally posted by D-res i have done research and i've read that creatine, because it adds water to the muscle cells, which last time i checked, were located in your muscles, it makes your muscles softer. i'm not saying that it makes your muscles soft as jelly, but softer none the less

Creatine provides an extra "boost" when working out/doing athletic activity. It is naturally occuring in the body and is very quickly used up. Taking creatine supplements just replenishes your body with it. One of the side effects is a little more water retention, thats all.

supplements are good if you have a busy schedule and dont have time to prepair 5 or 6 set meals. in this cse their essential for your workout. creatine is good in small doses. i take it every few months when i want to get to the next level.

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Originally posted by Orbax n02 is great. I deem it efficacious

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i'd just like to say in this thread to the people saying that "the best answer is normal food" that i don't think it matters. i've lived entirely off of supplements and multi-vitamins for looooooong periods of time...and had awesome success during those times. eating is just about amounts and proper percentages. it's just science...you give your body what it needs and it responds the way you tell it to...

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Originally posted by Floorfiller i'd just like to say in this thread to the people saying that "the best answer is normal food" that i don't think it matters. i've lived entirely off of supplements and multi-vitamins for looooooong periods of time...and had awesome success during those times. eating is just about amounts and proper percentages. it's just science...you give your body what it needs and it responds the way you tell it to...

i agree...


thanks for all the info everyone. im gonna go to a GNC or something this week and weigh my options, etc.

start off cheap. i bucket whey protein for 2-3 1 scoop a day shakes (takes a while to acclimate) and then a bucket of noxplode ONLY for days when you are gonna go NUTS otherwise its 80 bucks a month for nothing. Waiting for crazy days and then using it wisely stretches out your investment

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Originally posted by Orbax start off cheap. i bucket whey protein for 2-3 1 scoop a day shakes (takes a while to acclimate) and then a bucket of noxplode ONLY for days when you are gonna go NUTS otherwise its 80 bucks a month for nothing. Waiting for crazy days and then using it wisely stretches out your investment

good plan

i would maybe start with something from GNC..but then if you start getting serious...order online. GNC is so expensive...ordering online saves a lot...

i just started takin no xplode and that shit works. I get huge pumps and i am so energetic that its almost to the point of hand tremors.
been taking it for a week and have already noticed strgnth gains and better vascularity.

its a great product but use as directed and u will get results.

Creatine I think is a bit dodgy. It does give u more energy and it can make your muscles look bigger by making them retain water, there are people who say it's bad for your kidneys. Apparently to get the best results out of it you need to "cycle" it... whatever.. not worth the trouble imo.

Protein is what your body builds muscles from anyway. Protein powders just help you take in more protein without the fat that's associated with eating heaps of meat. Usually it is made of either soy extract, whey extract (whey is the liquid that forms when milk curdles... the solids are the curds and they get turned into cheese), or egg white. Whey protein powder tends to be the best, in particular the Whey Proetin Isolates (WPIs). Casein is another protein found in milk it doesn't increase muscle synthesis as much as whey protein but it causes a slow release of amino acids throughout the day, repairing muscle breakdown.

There are a whole bunch of chemical supplements out there, some of them that even mess with hormone production in your body. Personally I'd just stick to the naturally sourced protein powders.

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Originally posted by D-res i agree... thanks for all the info everyone. im gonna go to a GNC or something this week and weigh my options, etc.

you should hit me up, i work at the gnc in delafield wi and could get you the employee discount.

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Originally posted by OZzz you should hit me up, i work at the gnc in delafield wi and could get you the employee discount.

nice... wheres it by or what street is it on?

its right at the intersection of I-94 and hwy 83. just exit at the first delafield exit if you are coming from mil. you can see the store from the interstate, it is right next to sentry..

you work tomorrow? lol. i might stop by there

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