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Originally posted by THE_Chris Sorry, but this is an incredibly evil way of trying to get people to buy 4 copies of the album.

I don't mind... Europe gets I Love You

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Originally posted by Push2005 cause an artist album isn't supposed to be mixed !

And why not?

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Originally posted by DOOMBOT How am I, living in the US, supposed to get any of the other versions?

You can get import versions pretty easily off of Amazon and several other sites

Sometimes they cost a fortune though - But generally I've gotten them kind of reasonably.

Cubikated is the shit live.

Re: Ferry Corsten "L.E.F."

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Originally posted by Snagglepulse 16) Prison Break Theme (Bonus Track for America)

yes! sweet!

ps, release date for North America at all? i know you mentioned Holland...

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Originally posted by tubularbills yes! sweet! ps, release date for North America at all? i know you mentioned Holland...

That I don't think has been announced yet.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery And why not?

Well I see it this way:

There are already enough mixed cd's and livesets around on the market... But these are rather compilations of tracks. With those tracks the Dj who mixes it together would like to tell some sort of story with it and tries to carefully select what tracks he's going to use.

When a producer comes with an artist album; all the tracks are from the same 'breed'; and often have much elements in common. If tracks are in full length you can judge what the producer did entirely; whether the buildup is good, the extra's are allright etc. In other words: I want to judge his capabilities completely.
When all tracks of the same artist are mixed, it brings some disturbing things with it: There's no real story, because the tracks won't be very diverse; If you want to listen to a particular track (e.g. track 4); then it will start INSTANTLY in almost the middle of the track and all the starting elements are already gone. It doens't give a proper image of the track as a whole.

I said this out of expercience of some albums released lately... Take a listen to:

Mark Norman - Synchronity; the 2nd cd is a mixed cd with all his older tracks, and this mix sounds boring as shit, coz in the end it all starts to sound the same; whereas each track individually is masterpiece.
Mojado - Arena
Airwave - Trilogique
...
(there are others too; can't remember them now, lol)


And for a personal matter I like unmixed cd's too; because then I can use it to Dj with

I hope you don't disagree this time because you always tend to do that

Just found out the US release date.

July 11th

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Originally posted by Push2005 Well I see it this way: There are already enough mixed cd's and livesets around on the market... But these are rather compilations of tracks. With those tracks the Dj who mixes it together would like to tell some sort of story with it and tries to carefully select what tracks he's going to use. When a producer comes with an artist album; all the tracks are from the same 'breed'; and often have much elements in common. If tracks are in full length you can judge what the producer did entirely; whether the buildup is good, the extra's are allright etc. In other words: I want to judge his capabilities completely. When all tracks of the same artist are mixed, it brings some disturbing things with it: There's no real story, because the tracks won't be very diverse; If you want to listen to a particular track (e.g. track 4); then it will start INSTANTLY in almost the middle of the track and all the starting elements are already gone. It doens't give a proper image of the track as a whole. I said this out of expercience of some albums released lately... Take a listen to: Mark Norman - Synchronity; the 2nd cd is a mixed cd with all his older tracks, and this mix sounds boring as shit, coz in the end it all starts to sound the same; whereas each track individually is masterpiece. Mojado - Arena Airwave - Trilogique ... (there are others too; can't remember them now, lol) And for a personal matter I like unmixed cd's too; because then I can use it to Dj with I hope you don't disagree this time because you always tend to do that

I do, actually (surprising, huh?)

I feel albums should be judged as a whole, and not as a collection of individual tunes. Therefore I also think mixed CD's work better... but ONLY if they're done well.

I know what you mean about those albums and I agree that that kind of mixing is quite bad. It's very common when it comes to trance albums, and I think most trance artists shouldn't even be making albums since they're usually just a bunch of singles thrown on the disc with no real thought to it. Another reason for these albums being bad is the artists confusing "theme" with "using the same sound throughout the entire album". I feel albums should be like older Junkie XL and BT albums - not just beatmixed but made to sound like the tracks belong together like the whole album was made in one sitting.

So... in a way I disagree and agree at the same time... if that makes any sense

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery I feel albums should be like older Junkie XL and BT albums - not just beatmixed but made to sound like the tracks belong together like the whole album was made in one sitting.

bingo.

Doesn't mean mixed in the traditional dj sense but yeah when they blend into each other it is perfect. Faithless are usually good at this too. Not really sure you could do this with modern trance though, it just doesn't seem to have the potential of say BT or Faithless etc to do it, dunno, not enough sounds or something. That and when you change genres ala BT it allows more creativity. The tracks would really have to be reconstructed for the album to be able to pull it off (which wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing)

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Originally posted by Trance Nutter Not really sure you could do this with modern trance though, it just doesn't seem to have the potential of say BT or Faithless etc to do it, dunno, not enough sounds or something.

That's mostly because trance is pretty much single orientated whereas the artists mentioned do the album first and only then think what to release as a single. Also, most trance artists nowadays are more or less one trick ponies. Take the Three Drives album for example - the exact same sound from start to finish and the mixing was just awful.

Why does America get the worst bonus track

I thought the Prison Break theme remix was extremely boring..

I want I Love You

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery So... in a way I disagree and agree at the same time... if that makes any sense

Yeah it makes sense . I have more or less the same feeling actually. But since I know most mixed artist albums nowadays are just crappy mixed and some tunes really don't belong together, I prefer unmixed now.

You're right when it comes to older BT albums; but I don't think many producers are as versatile as he is ... Therefore most tunes by a majority of producers will sound the same; including this Ferry Corsten album

Btw, I think it's not gonna be mixed after all; just edited. But that's not good either

really wanting this!!

especially to make it up since the releaseparty is cancelled

man you guys bitch too much. If you like Ferry's newer "Electro" style then this album will kick ass. If not, then you need not apply.

As far as the bonus tracks issue, go get you region's version, and download the others. Is it that hard?

Yeah I've heard 9 of those 19 tracks, but other than Fire and Galaxia, studio versions of the rest of the tracks will make me happy.

Now Ferry just needs to get to all of us and rock the house.

I'm def. checking this one out... considering the fact that i've heard like 3 tracks off it. the rest will just be a nice surprise.

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Originally posted by neutron liar man you guys bitch too much. If you like Ferry's newer "Electro" style then this album will kick ass. If not, then you need not apply.

word.

I call it "electrance"

Release party has been canceled? Damn music politics.

Here is my take on this, Ferry can still do a 7-8 hours set to promote his album. I don't care about live PAs during the show. Last time, it was a live band playing all Ferry productions. That was great, but the rest were Ferry spining and lots of Live PAs. I am sorry, but most Live PAs are pre-recoreded. In other words, Live PAs or no Live PAs, it is all good.

Us Fans want to see Ferry Spins and spins great tracks. That's want we want. But now he cancelled, it is not a good decision at all.

How come Tiesto or PVD were and are number 1 DJs in the world, because they go everywhere promote their tracks, even though a lot of their production sounds horrible. This is how a great music writer to be even more sucessful.

I'm on a "meh" mood for this.

I'm not sure who exactly cancelled the event and I'm sure Ferry didn't want his show cancelled and was probably just as dismayed as his fans for the cancellation.

My guess as to why the L.E.F. event was cancelled was because of not enough planning time and because of financial problems. The sponsors, who are the financial investors, care about the money. A lot of money was probably spent for this show. The event would've been kick-ass in return. If the project fails, they would want their money back. The amount of planning time wasn't enough, which is probably a good reason a few side acts, Simon le Bon and Guru, couldn't make the show. If they had more time in working this event, they probably would've been available. The side acts might have been an essential enough part of this project. This probably led to the cancellation of this event. It's only a guess.

I should probably give you guys an update on Ferry's message boards. Things have calmed down. But I'd still rather you guys stay off, perhaps till after the 26th. I'll let you know when it's okay to go on.

I love the song "forever" cant wait till it get released

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Originally posted by Snagglepulse I should probably give you guys an update on Ferry's message boards. Things have calmed down. But I'd still rather you guys stay off, perhaps till after the 26th. I'll let you know when it's okay to go on.

Why is this an issue that you need to tell us about? Is it because you think we're just going to go in to feed the flames. You writing that disclaimer every time makes me WANT to go on the Ferry board, just because you said we shouldn't. We all get that people are pissed because they made arrangements to fly/stay there, etc., but to even bring mention of this on TA and then state "STAY OFF THE FERRY CORSTEN.COM MESSAGEBOARDS" is just inviting problems.

Lastly, who are you and what makes you some representative for the Ferry forum? You sound like a parent talking to a 5 year-old.

Here's a link I found on a japanese website to some short sound clips from the album:

http://atmusic.avexnet.or.jp/wma/disco.asp?aid=402

thx for that wonderful site.

Everything you need to know about the album (+ usefull links) can be found here: http://www.ferrycorsten.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2415

It's in stores in Holland and Japan now!

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