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Posted by donnybrasco on May-20-2006 08:02:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
um, did you read my post? when was i siding with the morons?? (for the record, average US citizen = the morons)


I'm drunk right now. It's 1am on a Friday here in "amerika", lol.

If I'm not making sense. please ignore.


Posted by Shakka on May-20-2006 12:30:

quote:
Originally posted by shaolin_Z
They're not photochoped. I VOTED on the damn poll myself, and it was removed pretty soon once roughly 90% voted that they believed there was a Government coverup.


You are so full of shit it's not even funny.


Posted by DrUg_Tit0 on May-20-2006 17:10:

Well, if you guys remember, there was actually a 9/11 conspiracy, because Bush knowingly and wrongfully accused Saddam Hussein for having links with the attack.


Posted by Lepanto on May-20-2006 18:42:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
not much. these people would just put their energy into growing pot or something


sociologist, huh?

quote:
Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0
Well, if you guys remember, there was actually a 9/11 conspiracy, because Bush knowingly and wrongfully accused Saddam Hussein for having links with the attack.


that's still contreversial because an enemy of my enemy is my friend.


Posted by shaolin_Z on May-20-2006 21:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Shakka
You are so full of shit it's not even funny.


You're so indoctrinated it's not even funny. Plus, you're the one who constantly defends the lying scumbags of this administration, not me.


Posted by shaolin_Z on May-20-2006 21:11:

quote:
Originally posted by donnybrasco
Riiiiiiiiiiight, another "conspiracy"...please.


You can call it whatever you want, I'm just telling you what happened.


Posted by donnybrasco on May-20-2006 21:43:

^^^Well I certainly trust you and your lack of evidence.


Posted by shaolin_Z on May-20-2006 23:44:

http://www.911truth.org/article.php...041111195501242


Posted by donnybrasco on May-21-2006 00:23:

Well I certainly will take the fabrications of a conspiracy theory website over the complete lack of said polls showing up on the world wide news channel's website to which they're accredited.









Posted by DrUg_Tit0 on May-21-2006 01:31:

So..did you actually see that poll for yourself and then found out it got closed or did you just read about it on a third party website?


Posted by shaolin_Z on May-21-2006 02:40:

quote:
Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0
So..did you actually see that poll for yourself and then found out it got closed or did you just read about it on a third party website?


Yes, I actually saw it for myself, and voted on it. And then it was removed a while later.

EDIT: And even before it was closed (i.e. right after I voted), the percentage of people who thought there was a government coverup surrounding 9-11 was still roughly about 90%. And then I went to check it a few weeks later and it was gone.


Posted by stevieboy32808 on May-21-2006 02:58:

If you look at the CNN poll archives you'll find it there. Anyways below are the CNN and Zogby polls:

CNN Poll
Zogby Poll


Posted by shaolin_Z on May-21-2006 03:06:

^^^ Thanks for posting that stevieboy32808.

@ Shakka: Now go eat your mf'n words bitch.

EDIT: And @ donnybrasco, nothing personal, but STFU already.


Posted by NeoPhono on May-21-2006 03:51:

Two things, even if the polls are legit.

1. The definition of "cover-up" can be pretty ambigous in this case. It ranges from not disclosing all the facts in a timely manner to aliens blowing up everything with approval from GW, the Iluminati and baby Jesus. There's a big difference between a cover-up to the magnitude of a bomb going off at the Pentagon instead of a plane crash to Mrs. Smith thinking GW didn't tell her everything when she wanted to know it.

2. Sorry, but "so what?" I bet 90% of five year-olds think Santa Claus is real, 90% of old people think everyone is out to get them and their money, and 90% of people could convince themselves in a conspiracy for just about anything.

The polls lead a lot to interpretation and even more to people's own doubts, fears and naivete.


Posted by donnybrasco on May-21-2006 05:35:

"W. David Kubiak, executive director of 911truth.org, the group that commissioned the poll..."

Is it any wonder that this group comissioned this poll and is now interpreting its results as they see fit? It's all in how you ask the questions and how you interpret the answers. I am STILL positive that if you walk around asking New Yorker's or anyone in the U.S. if they think the U.S. Government is behind the 9-11 attacks, you'd be lucky to find 1 in 1000 who think this.

Stevieboy; Glad you found the zogby poll, but please explain to me exactly how you got to the CNN Poll on the CNN website, as this appears to be nothing more than a link to a gif., and you can hide web addresses under assumed names, no? When I try to trace it backwards through the CNN site, it keeps coming up "page not found". Walk me through how you got there on the site.

And NeoPhono is right; The Zogby Poll is not saying there was a conspiracy. It's saying that some people think that SOME officials may have heard that there might be an attack on or about 9-11, but didn't take any action. This doesn't mean that they were covering anything up. It simply means that they weren't doing their jobs, or, they didn't believe their own Intel because they simply didn't think something like this could happen.

We all know this already though. This is nothing new. The Intel Community didn't do their job, even though they had enough pieces of the puzzle that they should have been able to put it together...simple human error! Nothing more.


Posted by stevieboy32808 on May-21-2006 06:08:

quote:
Originally posted by donnybrasco
Stevieboy; Glad you found the zogby poll, but please explain to me exactly how you got to the CNN Poll on the CNN website, as this appears to be nothing more than a link to a gif., and you can hide web addresses under assumed names, no? When I try to trace it backwards through the CNN site, it keeps coming up "page not found". Walk me through how you got there on the site.

I took advantage of the wording from the poll question and went to Google. Then I typed the following key words into the search engine:

"coverup surrounding 9/11 site:www.cnn.com"

The poll is the first link that pops up. Also if you change the poll number in the URL you'll notice a collection of closed polls, hence my use of the term archives.


Posted by donnybrasco on May-21-2006 07:30:

I am still having my doubts about this CNN poll and it legitimacy.

But I tell you what;

Assuming it is correct, in what context is this question being asked? I wonder what news item sparked the poll if it is legitimate? To me, the question can be easily interpreted like the Zogby poll question. "Cover-up" of what? If you go back and read some stories I found on the CNN site, like this one;

Graham Asserts Cover-up

..you'll find that what passes for "cover-up" in these headlines has more to do with covering up Intel failures, NOT trying to hide that the U.S. governemnt attacked it's own country!

People are grabbing headlines and turning them in to something they're not. There is no "cover-up" in this way...never was. You're trying to make something out of headlines and loose interpretations shaolin Z!!


Posted by tiesto14 on May-21-2006 20:33:

quote:
Originally posted by dcougar99
you may be very surprised at how many people agree, that 911 was an inside job.



yes!!! you are right...they usually consist of janitors, disgruntle employees, nomad computer geeks and guys who grew up playing dungeon and dragons cus they werent cut out for little league.



quote:
Originally posted by dcougar99

... but your also set in your ways so its not worth my time. we can agree to disagree.



I cant...however i can agree you are delusional.


quote:
Originally posted by dcougar99
Zogby poll says that 49% of New Yorkers polled believe bush and this administration are complicit in the 9/11 attacks.



There are 3 types of lies - lies, damn lies and statistics
"Mark Twain"


Posted by tiesto14 on May-21-2006 20:33:

quote:
Originally posted by dcougar99
you may be very surprised at how many people agree, that 911 was an inside job.



yes!!! you are right...they usuallu consist of janitors, disgruntle employees, nomad computer geeks and guys who grew up playing dungeon and dragons cus they werent cut out for little league.



quote:
Originally posted by dcougar99

... but your also set in your ways so its not worth my time. we can agree to disagree.



I cant...however i can agree you are delusional.


quote:
Originally posted by dcougar99
Zogby poll says that 49% of New Yorkers polled believe bush and this administration are complicit in the 9/11 attacks.



There are 3 types of lies - lies, damn lies and statistics
"Mark Twain"


Posted by tiesto14 on May-21-2006 20:35:

quote:
Originally posted by shaolin_Z
They're not photochoped. I VOTED on the damn poll myself, and it was removed pretty soon once roughly 90% voted that they believed there was a Government coverup.



you votes? HA! this is why i dont look at polls...they are taken by crack pots. no offence.


Posted by tiesto14 on May-21-2006 20:37:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
the viewpoints of the moronic american public are pretty irrelevant to the rest of us.



Bigot!


quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
here is a public that voted bush in x2, but now they think he was complicit? fickle, ignorant slack-jawed halfwits. i reckon theres a damn good chance that the opposite of whatever the US public think is the truth. when the average US citizen can find me iraq on a map, ill start listening



Thanks for the insight you kangaroo riding, koala bear humping, fosters drinking retard with a wannabe English accent


Posted by tiesto14 on May-21-2006 20:40:

quote:
Originally posted by shaolin_Z
^^^ Thanks for posting that stevieboy32808.

@ Shakka: Now go eat your mf'n words bitch.

EDIT: And @ donnybrasco, nothing personal, but STFU already.



So CNN is your source? yet if i was to use to promote a positive Bush instance you would say i am blinded by the trickery the media does and that CNN is run by corporate America....i love how u crazy people flip flop....cute..yet disturbing.


Posted by Lepanto on May-21-2006 22:41:

This just never ends.

No pleasing the liberal stoners, is there.


Posted by dcougar99 on May-22-2006 16:35:

the polls are real... i voted on one of the cnn polls, it was all over the net because they got more votes most polls... emails to cnn as well. They had 3 shows about the 911 coverup and had another one scheduled but powers to be cut that out. then the show got moved back in time slot for some reason. and i am a republican lepanto. and tiesto why so much hate. it doesnt do anyone any good


Posted by dcougar99 on May-22-2006 16:39:

quote:
Originally posted by shaolin_Z
^^^ Thanks for posting that stevieboy32808.

@ Shakka: Now go eat your mf'n words bitch.

EDIT: And @ donnybrasco, nothing personal, but STFU already.



not sure why this brings out the in these guys...


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