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Originally posted by LazFX Then why the hell should any one here listen to you then Bright Boy??

I never said that you yank.

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What the hell do you know?? Your family was exiled?? Or your family could not take the change??

we had our own reasons,and I dont have to tell you why.

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So now you live in Canada, protected from the same people your family fled, obviously or you would not be in the West, you would be in Iran, so how the hell can you, of all people, not understand what Lemonad is saying?

All I said was the the Iranians that are filthy rich in the west should stfu and let the people that live in Iran decide whats best for them.

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Instead you tell him to STFU and attack him. Is it because you know deep down inside he is right? Interesting....

His views arent realistic.This guy is living in the past.Things have changed ALOT since Shah.I understand that he is concerned but you have to look at the situation carefuly and getting rid of Islam wont solve a thing.
There are many muslims in Iran and they are not arabs or terrorists.Whats so evil about that?why should they be removed from the country?

But hardcore, what is so great about Iran now. I mean, if they were that great, why dont you move there. Why would you want to live in Canada, a western country, which you hate, when your so called Iran is great. You have this haterated of the western society and especially America, that you will support anything, just as long as you see Americans suffer.


Tell me one good reason why Iran is much better then it was before. And not because you charish Allah and he is your only god, and that you will die for him, if that means death to America.

$5 says he just ignores your questions and brings up how bad Bush is or how the Zionists are ruining everthing.

lol

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Originally posted by LazFX $5 says he just ignores your questions and brings up how bad Bush is or how the Zionists are ruining everthing. lol

Of course, make that 50 $

I will give ya that if you give me the 99.9% of the chance super hero Cyrus will come flying in with his Hezballa(sp?) Cape flying in the breeze.

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Originally posted by LazFX I will give ya that if you give me the 99.9% of the chance super hero Cyrus will come flying in with his Hezballa(sp?) Cape flying in the breeze.

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer All I said was the the Iranians that are filthy rich in the west should stfu and let the people that live in Iran decide whats best for them.

First off, i'm not filthy rich, we escaped Iran as soon as the Iran-Iraq war finished and second of all, i know how most people in Iran feel. People i've known for a long time have turned to stealing and drugs, which i might add is a higher problem these days than it was when Shah was in power. When you go to Iran and say your from a Western country, they actually want listen to your stories cause they know because of their depressive situation under this regime, they cannot experience any of those.

Third the person that said that Islam came around 700AD. Well that's true but have you noticed that the wars with Persia after Islam was brought in, that they were losing more. Invasion was more problematic because they weren't too concerned with protecting Persia. I've heard of these stories that they were praying for god to strike them down rather than actually getting some balls together and go out and protect Persia with their fists. They haven't changed since Islam came into power, trust me these guys speak louder with their mouths than their fists.

We need proper leaders, i don't understand why you object to this.

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His views arent realistic.This guy is living in the past.Things have changed ALOT since Shah.I understand that he is concerned but you have to look at the situation carefuly and getting rid of Islam wont solve a thing. There are many muslims in Iran and they are not arabs or terrorists.Whats so evil about that?why should they be removed from the country?

Mine aren't realistic? Well that's original. Look dude, stop saying Shah this, Shah that. I'm saying mostly Shah because he was the last king we had that actually wanted to revive most of the Persian beliefs. He wanted to make the country strong, make the country more modern and give everyone a fair chance; the same things that Cyrus The Great proclaimed. After Islam came into power, we did have kings like Pahlavi that wanted to revive the Persian way of life, but then we also had leaders like the mullahs in power of Persia who wanted a strict way of life. If history has told us anything, these mullahs will be out and a proper Persian leader will be in power in time.

And i'm not living in the past, i'm saying that if Iran was built to protect everyone, then thats how it should remain.

With the members of this board, i don't think "Cyrus" the member actually wants a bad Iran, he always wants these mullahs out of the country as much as everyone. I think most of his post become aggressive when someone says something bad about the country Iran rather than the regime itself. Alot of people are truly happy with the history of Iran even if it had hiccups along the way, so a attack on Iran rather than the leaders is sure to cause some attacks among many Iranians around the world, including myself. I don't understand hardcoretrancer though, he doesn't explain his attacks.

very interesting thread

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Originally posted by Kapedan But hardcore, what is so great about Iran now. I mean, if they were that great, why dont you move there. Why would you want to live in Canada, a western country, which you hate, when your so called Iran is great. You have this haterated of the western society and especially America, that you will support anything, just as long as you see Americans suffer.

Americans will suffer for a long time so Iam not worried about that.

Iam not saying Iran is a great place,but at the same time I have many family members that are living there just fine and they are dont hate or love the current regime.Sure things can be alot better but show me a country that is perfect.

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Tell me one good reason why Iran is much better then it was before. And not because you charish Allah and he is your only god, and that you will die for him, if that means death to America.

I dont believe in religion you yank and yes I cant stand your filty government and I have a million reason for that but thats not the issue now and just because I hate your government it doesnt mean I hate the west.

again Iam not saying Iran is much better now but the fact is if the people are that unhappy as you think they are,believe me they will do something about it just like they did to kick shah out of power.

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Originally posted by LazFX $5 says he just ignores your questions and brings up how bad Bush is or how the Zionists are ruining everthing. lol

ok Texas.

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer ok Texas.

Typical response there

I owe you coke Smitthers....

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Originally posted by LazFX Typical response there I owe you coke Smitthers....

you yank!

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Originally posted by Lemonad First off, i'm not filthy rich, we escaped Iran as soon as the Iran-Iraq war finished and second of all, i know how most people in Iran feel. People i've known for a long time have turned to stealing and drugs, which i might add is a higher problem these days than it was when Shah was in power.

every society has problems and Iran has its own.people steal and do drugs in canada as well.who is going to save Canada then?

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When you go to Iran and say your from a Western country, they actually want listen to your stories cause they know because of their depressive situation under this regime, they cannot experience any of those.

Now thats not true.They may not do the things we do here openly but TRUST me they do alot,they party and drink more then me and you.

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We need proper leaders, i don't understand why you object to this.

I agree we need better leaders,and by that I dont mean shahs son or those terrorist pigs that call themselves mojahedins.

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Mine aren't realistic? Well that's original. Look dude, stop saying Shah this, Shah that. I'm saying mostly Shah because he was the last king we had that actually wanted to revive most of the Persian beliefs. He wanted to make the country strong, make the country more modern and give everyone a fair chance; the same things that Cyrus The Great proclaimed.

If he was so great then why did he get fucked over by his own people? Do you remember the millions of people that were on the street wanting him out power?were all those people terrorists too?

you see the mullahs promised the people that they will bring freedom of religion,because shah used to assault and embarrass people with muslim beliefs.
for example His secret police used to assualt muslim women if they had their hairs covered.
so the mullahs worked their way into peoples hearts(with the help of Americans) and gave them false hopes.That is why the people of Iran want nothing to do with America anymore,I mean why would they?these are the same Americans that brought the mullahs to Iran simply because they were scared because they gave shah way too much power and they thought shah could fuck them over one day.

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After Islam came into power, we did have kings like Pahlavi that wanted to revive the Persian way of life, but then we also had leaders like the mullahs in power of Persia who wanted a strict way of life. If history has told us anything, these mullahs will be out and a proper Persian leader will be in power in time.

lets hope for the best and hope that we wont get fucked by the west once again

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I don't understand hardcoretrancer though, he doesn't explain his attacks.

I sure do.

Freedom of anything...in islam.... islamofascist/theocratic states sure are "free".

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer Now thats not true.They may not do the things we do here openly but TRUST me they do alot,they party and drink more then me and you.

Now, thats bullshit!

Go watch a Iranian film called "Crimson Gold" and there is a bit in the movie where it depicts real party-goers in the film. You have cops waiting outside behind walls just waiting for people to finish from the party to come out and you have them arrested.

There was also a funny part where a pizza delivery guy is held outside from delivery to the place because of the arrest and he notices a 15 year soldier and asks him something in the lines of "So, do you have fun?", the soldier replies "What's fun?"

My parents also told me thats how it is.

You know let me tell you a little history of how Islam brutaly came into Iran. The prophet Muhammad sent Rome, Persia and another country each a letter and told them to convert to being a muslim or they will be attacked. The Romans and the other country didn't reply at all but the Persians shreded the letter and spat on it and sent it back to Muhammad. After Muhammad got ill, they attacked Persia because he said no to their threats.

You see at the time we had the Sassanid Dynasty who were a selfish bunch, they didn't care much about the poor people, they only cared alot and treated the rich very well. When the preachers from the Arabs came and spread their lies just ike they did with 1979 Revolution, people accepted and the Persian empire was overthrown. Yet you actually respect a bunch that ruined Persia.

You see, Muhammad could have easily been like the Ayotollahs and had their way of thinking, does that really sound like how a real prophet thinks of ordering a religion onto people.

Accept the religion, or die! Thats how they thought back then and now.

I just hope people don't start a riot now.

I don't know if that little history but was relevant but it is necessary to say of how they came and stayed, now they must go.

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