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Posted by adi26 on May-22-2006 18:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Ygrene
Have you guys ever found yourselves working so hard at cheating that it would have just been easier to do the actually studying?




Sad as it sounds yes, I wanted to write down some notes and ended up writing like 4 pages of it. It would been better if I had studies those??

And you????


Posted by adi26 on May-22-2006 18:18:

quote:
Originally posted by raveed
all the time. but my parents taught me that the harder you work, the more chances of success you will have. cheating pretty much convinced me they were right.


word

lol


Posted by Ygrene on May-22-2006 18:24:

quote:
Originally posted by adi26

And you????


Never at cheating but, other things in life. Like raking the yard or something; I try to devise a new technique or some crap to make it easier but then, the inventing of the technique turns out to be harder than just raking the damn yard. Now, anytime I start thinking about an easier, quick fix way to do something I have to ask myself if it would just be easier to the work and be done with it.




Posted by raveed on May-22-2006 18:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Ygrene
Never at cheating but, other things in life. Like raking the yard or something; I try to devise a new technique or some crap to make it easier but then, the inventing of the technique turns out to be harder than just raking the damn yard. Now, anytime I start thinking about an easier, quick fix way to do something I have to ask myself if it would just be easier to the work and be done with it.



Without trying to sound retarded, in this case you could be on the right track. Isn't innovation, the benchmark of success.


Posted by adi26 on May-22-2006 18:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Ygrene
Never at cheating but, other things in life. Like raking the yard or something; I try to devise a new technique or some crap to make it easier but then, the inventing of the technique turns out to be harder than just raking the damn yard. Now, anytime I start thinking about an easier, quick fix way to do something I have to ask myself if it would just be easier to the work and be done with it.





My general approach is to device techniques of persuading other people to do my work.....


Posted by Ygrene on May-22-2006 18:43:

quote:
Originally posted by raveed
Without trying to sound retarded, in this case you could be on the right track. Isn't innovation, the benchmark of success.


Indeed it is! .....it's just that I come up with some pretty hair-brained ideas once in a while and I need to remind myself that I'm not as smart as I think I am.

quote:
Originally posted by adi26
My general approach is to device techniques of persuading other people to do my work.....


Hey that's not a bad plan! Can I help?


Posted by raveed on May-22-2006 18:44:

quote:
Originally posted by adi26
My general approach is to device techniques of persuading other people to do my work.....


basically u have no reason to dislike engineering when u dont even know what its about


Posted by adi26 on May-22-2006 18:52:

quote:
Originally posted by raveed
basically u have no reason to dislike engineering when u dont even know what its about


I love engineering with passion...and so i cheat with enthusiasm...


Posted by raveed on May-22-2006 18:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Ygrene
Indeed it is! .....it's just that I come up with some pretty hair-brained ideas once in a while and I need to remind myself that I'm not as smart as I think I am.



lol if you beleive in yourself then nothing can stop you. now get out there and built that remote controlled leaf raker.


Posted by Marc Summers on May-22-2006 18:59:

If I give out the answers, is that considered cheating?


Posted by adi26 on May-22-2006 19:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Ygrene

Hey that's not a bad plan! Can I help?


Oh sweet...What are you good at apart from lawn raking


Posted by adi26 on May-22-2006 19:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Marc Summers
If I give out the answers, is that considered cheating?


yes you cheatercock, you might as well start copying


Posted by raveed on May-22-2006 19:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Marc Summers
If I give out the answers, is that considered cheating?


No thats helping but for some strange reason, they dont take to that kindly either


Posted by Arbiter on May-22-2006 20:47:

If you know the answer because you cheated, that just proves you know the answer - and isn't that what they're supposed to be testing, anyway?


Posted by Boomer187 on May-22-2006 21:02:

i get people trying to cheat all the time in my classes, and they are so easily caught. I don't worry about it much though, they usually fail the exam anyways.


i usually just let people know not to cheat, just so that they never get away with it fully.


Posted by Aquarian on May-22-2006 21:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Boomer187
i get people trying to cheat all the time in my classes, and they are so easily caught. I don't worry about it much though, they usually fail the exam anyways.


i usually just let people know not to cheat, just so that they never get away with it fully.


You should put all the crappy students in the same corner of the room, so that they cheat off eachother and multiply their faulty answers.


Posted by CranberryJuice on May-22-2006 22:01:

i've been cheating in high school a few times but at university never ....i would be too scared to get caught and anyway u can't cheat with the kind of subjects they give you.If u get caught here at my uni u are judged by a kind of commission and then u are not allowed to take any exams in any universities or schools in the whole france for minimum 5 years ....

so there is no way i would risk myself doing such a thing ...i know every year thought some people get caught and just kicked off of uni ....so not for me


Posted by noikeee on May-22-2006 22:22:

From experience it seems over here cheating is widely more socially accepted as in some other countries where it's a really big deal (what Marie said).

I've tried a couple times, but was never very good at it. I kinda manage to look cool and natural, but never risk it unless the teacher looks in the opposite direction for 5 minutes.

I think it isn't very wrong morally, particularly on subjects that are ridiculously uninteresting or of no importance to your graduation.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on May-23-2006 04:23:

quote:
Originally posted by Ondrayce
I submitted this poem as an English final about eight years ago. Got an A, but the teacher wanted to read it aloud in class. I told her I was shy and wouldn't feel comfortable with that, so she didn't.


Off through the new day's mist I run
Out from the new day's mist I have come
I hunt
Therefore I am
Harvest the land
Taking of the fallen lamb

Off through the new day's mist I run
Out from the new day's mist I have come
We shift
Pulsing with the earth
Company we keep
Roaming the land while you sleep

Shape shift, nose to the wind
Shape shift, feeling I've been
Move swift, all senses clean
Earth's gift, back to the meaning of life



thats fvcking ace i wrote 'sanitarium' & a mate did 'one' in english poetry, haha.


Posted by raveed on May-23-2006 04:39:

quote:
Originally posted by paranoik0
From experience it seems over here cheating is widely more socially accepted as in some other countries where it's a really big deal (what Marie said).


Its not a matter of it being accepted rather I think the universities have a lot of trust in their students and arn't as strict invigilating exams as say the United Kingdom or India where they actually make us put our bags outside the examination room. Cells arn't allowed either and no bathroom breaks.


Posted by RapidFire on May-23-2006 04:48:

quote:
Originally posted by D-res
i smoked 4 bowls last night


and its a urine test...


do they watch you do it or do they leave you in a room by yourself? if so smuggle in a friends urine sample.

if not theres a way a doctor can insert someone elses stuff into your pee pee


Posted by adi26 on May-23-2006 05:02:

quote:
Originally posted by RapidFire
do they watch you do it or do they leave you in a room by yourself? if so smuggle in a friends urine sample.

if not theres a way a doctor can insert someone elses stuff into your pee pee


+ 1 , I was thinking of the exact same thing.


Posted by RapidFire on May-23-2006 05:15:

quote:
Originally posted by adi26
+ 1 , I was thinking of the exact same thing.


cheating minds think alike


Posted by idoru on May-23-2006 06:07:

quote:
Originally posted by adi26
No, thats not the point here. The point is that you study as hard as possible and learn as much as possible before the exam which you retain for your own knowledge and satisfaction but when it boils down to an exam - its the grades which talk, not how much you know.




An exam measures how much you know. Therefore, it's a measure of how hard you studied. As long as you actually study, there's no point in cheating if it's just going to earn you one or two extra points on a test.


Posted by adi26 on May-23-2006 14:05:

quote:
Originally posted by idoru


An exam measures how much you know. Therefore, it's a measure of how hard you studied. As long as you actually study, there's no point in cheating if it's just going to earn you one or two extra points on a test.


I agree and disagree. Agree because you are partially correct and disagree because those extra points matter.

I will stop cheating the day schools stop calculating GPA's.


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