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i quite like this new track, probably it isn't finished yet, but paul is already playing it out, just like he did with the half finished version of the other side

also Ashley said : "I wasnt aware he was going to play it out already anyway"

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oh and by the way

josh gabriel did 75% of the work on "walking on clouds"...kirsty did the other 25%

i dont know how u guys can compare this track to tiesto
its better then anything that asshole ever created

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Originally posted by Reactic I agree. "wir sind wir" and "the other side" were cheap mainstream productions imo. tiestos can also do better, but "allure - the loves we lost" was really good and his last album "just be" was also ok, at least better than "reflections". can't wait to compare both artist albums which should be released at the end of this year by pvd and tiesto.

from what I understand PVD nowdays does almost everything (engineering included) with his tunes, Tiesto does not do that at all...anyways, this track is weak.

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Originally posted by movingincircles DELETED josh gabriel did 75% of the work on "walking on clouds"...kirsty did the other 25%

can't believe people still call Tiesto a producer, he's a showman, great for marketing...isn't Geert Huinick the producer behind Tiesto

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Originally posted by gk_nz Anyone noticed how the bassline in this track is almost identical to the bassline in 'The Egg - Walking Away (Tocadisco Remix)'? Which is a track Paul has been canning for awhile.

that's ABLETON used live right then and there in the club...try and listen to the set at Prague 5-27-06, some tracks with basslines from other tracks, stuff like that...the last one is for an angel but PVD somehow fitted parts of Until Monday in it

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Originally posted by RapidFire Wir Sind Wir is a pretty great song without the vocal. its the vocals that kill his songs.

I feel the same. I enjoy his edits too -- or back when we used to actually do them and release them. Never really been a big fan of his original tracks...

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Originally posted by eltomas that's ABLETON used live right then and there in the club...try and listen to the set at Prague 5-27-06, some tracks with basslines from other tracks, stuff like that...the last one is for an angel but PVD somehow fitted parts of Until Monday in it

Wait, that�s not exactly right what you�re saying, PvD played the Marc van Linden remix of For An Angel, so that�s prolly why you think there were some elements of Until Monday.. I think there weren�t.

And on the topic..:

I like the track. Bassline is really nice, the break is above average, vocals could be better - i�m not a fan of Ashley Tomberlin, her voice sounds bit cheesy to me.

Nice track from PvD.

Paul Oakenfold > Tiesto

CD Reviews / New Releases Discussion No this doesnt belong here

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Originally posted by paulandrews Wait, that�s not exactly right what you�re saying, PvD played the Marc van Linden remix of For An Angel, so that�s prolly why you think there were some elements of Until Monday.. I think there weren�t.

Paul van dyk did play elements of until monday over FAA. Why is it so hard to concept?

And this thread is retarded cause the track was just put together by paul and im sure this mix will probably never be heard ever again. And wont be released till mid summer if at all as a single.

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Originally posted by Reactic lets see how pvd's next artist album will be. I'm really existed because he said that he has produced a track that he considers to be better than "for an angel".. not sure but I think pvd said this in an interview.

FAA wasn't ever that good of a production

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Originally posted by RebeL9 you just realised this? PVDs entire last album was pure cheese. Nothing but you, the other side etc are just some examples of really low hitting tunes from the man which attacks Ian van Dahl for being cheesy

For the first time in a long time i completely agree with you on this. In a lot of ways PVD is a hypocrite both producing wise and in his sets. Always goes on about how he "doesnt play trance and only EDM" and so on and so forth. Slates all trance for being cheesy when his own production work is abolutly shocking. Without fail the best parts of his sets is when hes battering out Vandit style trance and is what got him back to the most popular DJ on the planet (according to DJ Mag).

As for the track i thought it was okay. Im guessing the "club" mixes will make it sound a lot better.

I've been a staunch supporter of PVD for along time, his music was a real inspiration (particulary, out there and back). However over time my support has been shrinking as track after track he does really disappoints! He used to use vocals to add to a track, but never to be the basis of the track.

I also used to be a great supporter of tiesto as well but I lost interest in his music some time ago, I actually find a lot of tracks now days sleep inducing. I've heard better use of synths in pacman games.

Anyway back to PVD, I really feel like he's lost his way, his tracks have become very vocally based and cheesy. And yes I think it's fair to say some of paul's comments have been hypocritcal. Oh and since we're talking hypocritical, some comments Tiesto made about dj's making no interaction with the crowd, he's just as bad if not worse. You could put a dead guy behind the decks and he would move more than tiesto does. These day's, Tiesto is overrated, highly, it's all hype.

It's interesting that someone brings up the point of vandit tracks because there are some great tracks coming out on that label. I would say Paul decides on what gets put out on vandit, so you would think if those are the sounds he likes you would see influences in his productions. I don't see a large amount of vocal tracks on Vandit, so whats influencing PVD to write these vocally based mainstream styled tracks?

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Originally posted by Cloud no imo

you need your ears checked...Tiesto doesn't have a track in his entire collection that can even sniff Seven Ways.

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Originally posted by Push2005 Pvd is a far worse producer than Ti�sto

wow.

PvDs productions have taken a down spill imo. I just dont get any goosebumps when listening to pvds newer productions.

MY answer to the problem. Quit for a couple years. Take a break, and then come back. We will all still love Paul, even if he takes a break. Chill with the family, relax, take a break, instead of traveling around the world to your crazy fanboys in angelwing outfits.

Gives time to really create somethin great.

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Originally posted by gizzymcg Slates all trance for being cheesy when his own production work is abolutly shocking.

slates all trance?

I won't deny most of hs recent stuff is pretty average, but he never slated all trance.

He did agree that 95% of trance is bullocks, but then he's right.
Just like 95% of rock is bullocks, 95% of house, 95% of pop (okay, more like 99%), 95% of folk, 95% of country etc.

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Originally posted by Nightscape i dont know how u guys can compare this track to tiesto its better then anything that asshole ever created

This may actually be referring to somebody else's post in this thread, but in case this is referring to my question, I should clarify something...

I was not trying to compare PVD and Tiesto's productions...I think their productions are both very different. When I asked "is PVD going the way of Tiesto?", what I meant was is he becoming a mediocre producer after finally hitting the #1 spot...

I didn't mean to sound like I was comparing their productions

As far as productions go, PVD > Tiesto

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Originally posted by sandstorm03 CD Reviews / New Releases Discussion No this doesnt belong here Paul van dyk did play elements of until monday over FAA. Why is it so hard to concept? And this thread is retarded cause the track was just put together by paul and im sure this mix will probably never be heard ever again. And wont be released till mid summer if at all as a single.

Ok, I�ve listened to it again and apparently he did NOT play any elements of Until Monday over For An Angel. The reason why you think he did is that it was a Marc van Linden remix of FAA and Marc van Linden coproduced Until Monday with Giuseppe Ottaviani.

The last production Paul van Dyk did that had real substance and i really enjoyed was probably 'Autumn' which didnt see the light of day as regards a release was concerned, oh and that track called 'Working' or 'Avid City' whatever it was called, which i couldnt believe was discarded on his weak 'Reflections' album, that track was pure PvD energy with a great Acid line.
'Wir Sind Wir' wasnt bad if it wasnt for those horrible vocals.

I havnt heard this offering yet, but i really think he should scrap the vocals and just opt for the solid instrumentals which he is just so good at......Words, Avenue, Out There & Back etc.....

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Originally posted by darksteppin36 you need your ears checked...Tiesto doesn't have a track in his entire collection that can even sniff Seven Ways.

i said "imo"

U need your eyes checked

PvD's last great tune - Animacion from 2002, everything since then has been going downhill rapidly

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Originally posted by gk_nz I've been a staunch supporter of PVD for along time, his music was a real inspiration (particulary, out there and back). However over time my support has been shrinking as track after track he does really disappoints! He used to use vocals to add to a track, but never to be the basis of the track. I also used to be a great supporter of tiesto as well but I lost interest in his music some time ago, I actually find a lot of tracks now days sleep inducing. I've heard better use of synths in pacman games. Anyway back to PVD, I really feel like he's lost his way, his tracks have become very vocally based and cheesy. And yes I think it's fair to say some of paul's comments have been hypocritcal. Oh and since we're talking hypocritical, some comments Tiesto made about dj's making no interaction with the crowd, he's just as bad if not worse. You could put a dead guy behind the decks and he would move more than tiesto does. These day's, Tiesto is overrated, highly, it's all hype.

+1
tiestos latest productions(not rmx's) all sound the same, a lot of them sound like flight 643, same build up and everything...the synths he uses sound really lame as well.

um, and pvd, his shit is wack as well, his productions havent been up to par latley.

i don't hate eiether, i like em both, but production wise, there are way better producers out there droppin' hot trax...

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Originally posted by sandstorm03 FAA wasn't ever that good of a production

if you were listening to the biggest dance tracks of 1998 in that year.. the e-werk mix was far above anything else out there and absolutely amazing. it's definitely special regardless of how many times paul overplays that or marc van linden's 'this is boring re-edit'!

Just listening to this track now, does anyone else think that the beat behind the singing sounds exactly the same as the egg - walking away (tocadisco rmx)??? Seriously biggest rip off ever!!

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