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Posted by everyMan on Jun-06-2006 17:06:

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1. JaPan LFOarp - no arp, just lfo and some fm synth to create "arp" feel with lfo 2 controlling panning and create detuning


that's Midway Inca melody

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6. NoLFODelay - patch uses no arp or FX, delay-ish type of sound is produced by LFO1 (take a guess who was my influence for this pad ) I'll give you a hint - his name starts with "J"


that reminds me a soundtrack, like clockwork orange or mulholland drive


The last pad is really nice, it could be from a vangelis track


Posted by emc^2 on Jun-06-2006 18:08:

^^ thanks for kind words. now, if I could only incorporate my ideas into a track...


Posted by Derivative on Jun-06-2006 18:31:

NL3 does sound quite a bit different to the NL2. But it seems to carry on the nord tradition of having *powerful* oscillators.

I love the fact that the nord sounds great without any effects on it. It was the same with the NL2X but I still dont like the bass sounds on it (probably because of the weird 24 dB/Octave filter) and the moog clone doesnt sound anything like a moog

But theres stuff that sucks about my Virus too so it evens out. Virus saw and square oscillators are WEAK. Also, It takes forever and a day to build a semi convincing guitar/piano sound and even then it doesnt sound as good as the nords, at least in my experience. Sometimes I wish I had bought the NL2X but I've got my fill of virtual analoge goodness so I really need to look further afield for my next peice of kit.

Lovely demo sounds and quite inspirational.


Posted by emc^2 on Jun-06-2006 21:24:

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Originally posted by Derivative
the moog clone doesnt sound anything like a moog



well, of course - that's why I have a MiniMoog Model D stashed away =). Though, you can make Moog sound like that (of course nothing will compare to pure analog goodness of Moog filters but that's another story)

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But theres stuff that sucks about my Virus too so it evens out. Virus saw and square oscillators are WEAK. Also, It takes forever and a day to build a semi convincing guitar/piano sound and even then it doesnt sound as good as the nords, at least in my experience.


try some of Matt Picone's soundsets on virus website - he has some awesome piano/guitar patches for virus - much better than NL. Can't be arsed to dig them up right now but give it a shot.


Posted by Derivative on Jun-07-2006 02:24:

Mate, thanks for the reading/learning material. Just need to make it through 8 hours of work tommorow and I'll sit down and have a read

Im guessing pianos/guitars are made partly with wavetables, but those arent very bright on the Virus either. Its kind of murkey all round. The nord has a harder kind of timbre to the oscillators and very fast envelopes - it seemed quite good for plucked and hammer action sounds.

Hence the whole 7 Cities thing I suppose.


Posted by aNYthing on Jun-08-2006 04:24:

thread hijackers!!! so, any1 care to share some tips??? (aside from what's been provided thus far) ???


Posted by Drik on Jun-08-2006 13:59:

So, how about sharing some of your patches for the NL3?


Posted by emc^2 on Jun-10-2006 18:46:

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Originally posted by Drik
So, how about sharing some of your patches for the NL3?


Mine??? I'll make a bank and share it - how's that for some love for fellow NL3 owners?

Cheers!


Posted by aNYthing on Jun-12-2006 01:24:

speaking of patch banks for NL3, anyone cares to post theirs?


Posted by alanzo on Jun-14-2006 02:52:

Speaking of NL3... i'm selling mine if anyone is at all interested in buying

http://cgi.ebay.com/CLAVIA-NORD-LEA...1QQcmdZViewItem


Posted by alanzo on Jun-14-2006 23:14:

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Originally posted by dj_palm
yo why ur sellin?

oh it loooks sooooo good man!


I need the money and plus I don't really feel a need for hardware anymore.


Posted by emc^2 on Jun-15-2006 04:34:

quote:
Originally posted by alanzo
I need the money and plus I don't really feel a need for hardware anymore.


..another one bites the dust!


Posted by emc^2 on Jun-17-2006 02:45:

bump
this thread must not die


Posted by emc^2 on Jun-19-2006 06:23:

just get it... if the price is right. I figure if you get a rack for no more than $800 or kbd for about $900 - it's a good deal.

I like kbd version of it simply because of the pitch stick... keys themselves feel kinda flimsy, not the best key feel around. Rack is nice due to form factor but damn... it gets sooo hot because of the built-in power transformer and small footprint! Otherwise, no complaints - I love it. Silly easy to create great patches, awesome split capability, easy multis, no menu diving, really wicked arp settings (almost as flexible as a 16 step sequencer)... overall fun piece to play with if you can get it cheap.


Posted by Drik on Jun-19-2006 07:16:

quote:
Originally posted by emc^2
just get it... if the price is right. I figure if you get a rack for no more than $800 or kbd for about $900 - it's a good deal.

I like kbd version of it simply because of the pitch stick... keys themselves feel kinda flimsy, not the best key feel around. Rack is nice due to form factor but damn... it gets sooo hot because of the built-in power transformer and small footprint! Otherwise, no complaints - I love it. Silly easy to create great patches, awesome split capability, easy multis, no menu diving, really wicked arp settings (almost as flexible as a 16 step sequencer)... overall fun piece to play with if you can get it cheap.


Also love my NL3, pitch stick layout is genious, I actually like the flimsy keyboard feel, takes a bit to get used to though
Hmm, I haven't looked much into the arp part of it, I usually use my virus for that stuff, maybe I should have a go..


Posted by alanzo on Jun-23-2006 00:49:

Got a pretty good sound going with my NL3..

http://it.stlawu.edu/~slucricket/7_cities.mp3

No FX.. just NL3

Basically a detuned square wave with the Shape turned up a bit on both OSCs, the stack turned up to 5 with unison on, and both the Distortion Modulation and the Filter Distortion.

Don't see how they did it with a NL1 since I had to use a bunch of things that are NL3 only... they must of used external distortion and, perhaps, layered the sound a bunch of times (effectivly creating a "stack")


Posted by Jesse on Jun-24-2006 23:09:

sample

Hey guys,

been following this thread a little and decided to have a go. I'm not really into this producer thingy and tried Reason (is this a good program?) for this sound. This is what I got after 2 days of trying. Please give me some feedback

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Posted by djAlexg on Jun-25-2006 19:56:

It's a very nice recreation of the sound.Can u post the .rns reason file?? pls


Posted by Malhiotface on Jun-26-2006 00:27:

Hey emc^2,

Love the sounds you made with your Nord 3. I bought a Nord 3 about 6 months ago and I love it to, but I can't get the kind of sounds you got from it. Part of thte reason I can't is becasue I am a beginner. Did you just figure out make these sounds by playing around or do you understand sound design? I have know clue about waveforms and things like that. I have a very musical background I play guitar and I am learning the piano, but I have no clue about music technology. Are there any good web sites to go to and learn, or should I just play around and learn that way?


Posted by emc^2 on Jul-07-2006 07:13:

Hey Malhiotface, thanks for kind words mate. Most of the patches you heard on the demo were made from scratch. I just started twidling knobs with very little logic behind it. Just happened to have found what I was not expecting to find

With Nord 3 it's easy to just initialize the patch and go to town. I use "unison" feature quite heavily and FM portion for some weird detuning. Also, using different LFO shapes and values helps to create "layered" feel. I've been messing with synths for quite some time and read countless books but none really cover the detail to the point of where I'd say I'm comfortable with it. It's all about experimentation.

And when you run out of ideas, take existing patch and tweak it. I call it "patch autopsy" - where you find out what the patch is made of and how other parameters can change its shape. But like everything else in music - sound design is art, not sicence and no book will teach you how to make cool noises.

I read this book as intro. Found it a bit too basic but worth checking out:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/08...2645557?ie=UTF8

If you want some heavy-duty sound design concepts (on electronic component level), check out this book:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/02...glance&n=283155


Posted by alanzo on Jul-07-2006 07:49:

Not as long as emc^2's.. but is more trancy

All patches from a bank I'm working on... recorded straight to sound forge.. no external FX... just Nord Lead 3

http://it.stlawu.edu/~slucricket/nl3.mp3

This is complety played by me, as well.. if you listen, you can hear all the times I messed up

And a special bonus goes to the person who can name the TWO games from which I play melodies... one is easy... the other is, perhaps, not.


Posted by farris on Jul-11-2006 14:15:

quote:
Originally posted by alanzo
Not as long as emc^2's.. but is more trancy

All patches from a bank I'm working on... recorded straight to sound forge.. no external FX... just Nord Lead 3

http://it.stlawu.edu/~slucricket/nl3.mp3

This is complety played by me, as well.. if you listen, you can hear all the times I messed up

And a special bonus goes to the person who can name the TWO games from which I play melodies... one is easy... the other is, perhaps, not.

Zelda!
And the other one I don't know...Prince of Persia perhaps?

- farris


Posted by alanzo on Jul-11-2006 14:57:

Final Fantasy IX

that's the hard one


Posted by farris on Jul-11-2006 16:30:

Haven't played past CD1 yet of FF IX. Been a while since I played that, but can't remember music from it anymore.
But Zelda was correct right? .
Sorry for the off-topic btw.

- farris


Posted by alanzo on Jul-11-2006 16:57:

Yeah, the other one was zelda... easy


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