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Very sorry to hear this but please don't feel alone either.
I grew up with my Dad and his brother (my fav uncle) both having bi-polar disorders.
I know it's not full out schizophrenia but believe me when I say this, it would have been tons easier on the family (including myself) if it was; much easier to deal with
My problem is you can't admit them ANYWHERE unless they're a threat (to themselves or others) and they have to go willingly; with diagnosed schizophrenia that's not an issue.
It's only when they were at the peak of their 'cycles' that the cat was out of the bag so to speak, that anybody would do anything because at that time, it was more than obvious there was a problem.
Very, very, very frustrating let me tell you.
You feel very hopeless when you know your own dad is having problems and you can't help at all.
They're of sound mind and all but they have VERY wacked ideas, irregular breathing when they sleep, IF they sleep, and ideas come to them like a train without the breaks.

I hope my little story helps you out.
I know it's not easy to take and I can somewhat relate but know this, there have been leaps and bounces in this afflication over the past 10 years or so (yea, only 10 years) so have hope.
We're only just starting to understand this area and the support groups are just, within the last few years, starting to appear.
And yes, there are support groups for those that have family members with schizophrenia/bi-polar.
It's a huge toll on everyone so don't feel alone.

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Originally posted by Nikitha About the drug relation, I can tell you that his drug past has nothing to do with his condition... this disease is passed on through genetics only.

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Originally posted by Nikitha About the drug relation, I can tell you that his drug past has nothing to do with his condition... this disease is passed on through genetics only.

This is false.

As far as cannabis goes, it is undetermined whether cannabis causes psychological disorders, or if people with psychological disorders (or prone to psychological disorders) are more prone to smoking cannabis. One thing is for sure, there are more drug users or instances of a history of drug usage among people with psychological disorders than with the general populatoin.

As far as psychedelics go (mushrooms, LSD), it is generally assumed that these drugs can bring about under lying psychological illnesses that may or may not have ever surfaced.

Your position went from the original quote to this

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i wasn't saying drugs don't affect it.. i was saying that its never been proven that drugs cause it

Remember: If something hasn't been prooven, it still could be true until it is proven to be untrue.

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Originally posted by The Highroller This is false. As far as cannabis goes, it is undetermined whether cannabis causes psychological disorders, or if people with psychological disorders (or prone to psychological disorders) are more prone to smoking cannabis. One thing is for sure, there are more drug users or instances of a history of drug usage among people with psychological disorders than with the general populatoin. As far as psychedelics go (mushrooms, LSD), it is generally assumed that these drugs can bring about under lying psychological illnesses that may or may not have ever surfaced. Your position went from the original quote to this Remember: If something hasn't been prooven, it still could be true until it is proven to be untrue.

As i said in later comments... in my teachings in psychology it has never been said and concrete that those drugs cause the diseases... and by cause i mean actually create the imbalances.. not trigger them.. but actually CREATE them...
like i said in a few other comments i have only been taught that there must be a genetic link BEFORE any other influences can effect a person and their disease...
i'm sure there are many links of drugs to these mental diseases.. as drugs are linked to many diseases..
and i'm sure there are many theories that are testing and have tested the links between the drugs and schizophrenia.. but i believe the only concrete evidence found for a person having schizophrenia is through a genetic link first and foremost... be it from a close family member or even a old ancestor..

Nikki

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Originally posted by Nikitha but i believe the only concrete evidence

Good luck finding any concrete evidence when it comes to illicit drugs.

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Originally posted by The Highroller Good luck finding any concrete evidence when it comes to illicit drugs.

haha.. really eh?

I think it would be really smart to test thats sort of things... its not like they have to turn ppl into addicts.. they can find addicts anywhere....

I guess it would be really wrong though... but I think professionals would be able to find so much information...

Nikki

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Originally posted by Nikitha haha.. really eh? I think it would be really smart to test thats sort of things... its not like they have to turn ppl into addicts.. they can find addicts anywhere.... I guess it would be really wrong though... but I think professionals would be able to find so much information... Nikki

Of course it would be smart to do so. If researchers were permitted to do so, we could learn a lot about illicit drugs. Unfortunately, the government doesn't seem to like researchers doing studies on illicit drugs unless it's a study that prooves how "bad" they are. As a result, we don't know much about these drugs, except that if you do them, you'll end up as a failure and eventually die of an overdose.

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Originally posted by The Highroller Unfortunately, the government doesn't seem to like researchers doing studies on illicit drugs unless it's a study that prooves how "bad" they are. As a result, we don't know much about these drugs,

yeah cause if u map history ull see crack addicts did alot of amazing things that couldnt have done without crack. like fly! or shit on my porch!


ah crack the miracle drug! if the gov't would only inform the public of its true positive potential

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Originally posted by MKpacha eric what you say never matters, and i'm getting really sick of you, so shut the fuck up.

listen u lil umptany whore. waving ur ass around ta like ur some kinda goddesss. oh look at me all the dudes like me and im new and wear make up. im so fuckin cool. pllllleease i see thru ur fake wanna be popular attitude. back in hs guys like me used to gang bang girls like u and leave em dropping out of school workin part time at the cleaners

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Originally posted by MKpacha Too bad yo' mama never raised you right....looks like you're doing the AC for my condo BIATCH

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Originally posted by MKpacha Too bad yo' mama never raised you right....looks like you're doing the AC for my condo BIATCH

ill be sure to take a shit in the supply return so u inhale/eat a lil bit of my shit particles everynight as u sleep.

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Originally posted by MKpacha not even funny.... go back to the west end

go back to fuckin jewville and live off of daddy's money.

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Originally posted by MKpacha too bad there are NO JEWS in my area.... wop. eff u go eat a pizza

go eat a fuckin cake


who u roting for in the world cup, oh ya nobody cause ur fuckin white washed

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Originally posted by MKpacha bRAZILLLLLLL.... because they are fucking amazing.... then maybe a lil ital oh yeah....eat shit and die

*watches the band wagon drive by*


*watches MK chase it down and jump on it*



vroooooooooooooom!

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Originally posted by MKpacha meh, i play it safe... unlike some... VB? more like VD!

MKpacha? more lik MMMMMMMMMMMMMkaka

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Originally posted by MKpacha painful isnt it...how I can shut you down.... go back to the gym, work your legs, and get your ass out to lawler fucktard

i dont think i should be the one hitting the gymn




SNAP



Game Set and Match

*does tennis swing*

i am sorry to hear about this!

take care hun!

dallas

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Originally posted by MKpacha I dont need to say anything to that.... I'm hot and I know it... love u 2 eric

actually i think i swung a lil low on that last one. never ever make make fun of a girls bod. i learned that the first time i had sex. gosh im an idiot! anyways i apologize cause personally i dont think u need to get into the gymn, ud just distract most of the juiceheads anyways

:P we totally took over this thread.


and now back to ur regular programming

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Originally posted by Refinnej Apparently there is now a once a month shot that schizophrenics can get for those who refuse to take their meds. My ex bf's mother has schizophrenia and he told me recently that he takes her for a once a month shot in Toronto. I don't know if it's true though..I haven't confirmed if there is such a needle. Here is a helpful website: http://www.mentalhealth.com/book/p40-sc01.html

There is indeed a shot that you can get every three months for this disease. However, it has a lower liklyhood of being successful, and it has SERIOUS side-effects to the patient.

I have two VERY VERY close family members in my family, (and by close, I mean people I lived with growing up), that have been diagnosed with schizophrenia.

One has paranoid schizophrenia, and the other has manic depressive schizophrenia. They are not the exact same, but very similar.

Kelly, if you wish to talk more about this, I have TONNES of information, and A LOT of personal experience dealing with people that have the disease, so feel free to get in touch.
It is not something easy to deal with, for the person with the illness, and for the family. Try and remember though, that although it sucks for you, this is about THEM. They are the ones who are going through the hardest times of their lives, and they are the ones who need the support, love and understanding.

A lot of people do not understand it, and it is a little scary, but whatever you do, don't ostracize him and treat him differently.

Thanks so much everyone (except MK and vivid like seriously ) for your caring and knowledgable responses. I am kinda confused now as to what may have happened to my cousin..b/c according to my brother he was into coke huge for a wihile..and smoked a fair amoutn of weed...but not leaving the house in over 6 mths he wasnt doing much of anything at all. But having someone on his dad's side having it I dont knownow if it was more to do with his family background...I mean it was only one person who had it on his dad's side....

unfortunately I can't help much, but I do hope everything will work out just fine for your cousin!

I'm always here if you need to talk/rant.

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Originally posted by dance2dabeat Thanks so much everyone (except MK and vivid like seriously ) for your caring and knowledgable responses.

Kelly I am so sorry that you are going through all of this, I can't even imagine what is going through your head. Know that I am always here for you no matter what! Luv you lots!! *hugs*

As for MK and Vivid, high-jacking a thread of this nature with such immaturity is really sad...there is a time and place for everything, and those comments were not needed in a thread of this nature

Kelly, I have sincere sadness to hear that this is something you are going through. Mental illness is something that is serious and needs to be taken SERIOUSLY.

We will talk about this in person....

On another note....I think the postWHORING in this thread needs to learn where the F&*#@ to talk and where NOT to talk.

Theres the door. Hope it doesn't kick ya on the way out....

Sorry if I offend anyone...LOL....Kelly's my girl...no one Fucks with dance2dabeat.

Much love...hahahahaha

Just wanted to publically appologize for my immaturity. It was stupid I know, and completely unacceptable. My condolences to you kelly. As for the whole drugs affecting the fact that your cousin has schizophrenia, my neighbours son as found to have it, and he had been a heavy cocaine user for a long time, they to this day assume that may have been the cause of his abrupt change in the way he acted, and the key link to discovering his "illness". My PSychologist also questioned me as to wether or not I was a drig user, she said it can trigger chemical imbalances in my brain that I never knew were there.... She also reccomended that with a high rate of depression and anxiety that it was NOT a good idea in the slightest for me to even think of using them....


I just wana say that you have a friend in me, and I hope your family can stay strong through the struggles. Your cousin is where he needs to be, here's hoping he can accept the help he needs and feel better.

*hugs n love*

mk

ps. I'm and immature idiot.

^^^ That was a nice thing to do in admitting your immature behaviour and apologizing for it MK.

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Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* ^^^ That was a nice thing to do in admitting your immature behaviour and apologizing for it MK.

My stupid jokes are the last thing this thread needs <3

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